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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.14 06:11:00 -
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LOL
In before lock.
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Posted - 2014.02.18 02:47:00 -
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I can believe you people would use links.
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Posted - 2014.02.18 02:50:00 -
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God's Apples wrote:Don't know who the hell ATONMENT are, but this seems like a pretty accurate description of Burtakas.
I never heard of them either.
I assumed they were a Gallente alt corp by how well they seem to know Burtakas. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.18 21:12:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked for personal attacks.
Yeah same. I expected it to be gone by now. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.19 05:06:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Armchair psychiatrist.
Only your perspective is broken, not the game. As often as i run into disgruntled pilots who fell into my web, i get pilots who i fell into their 'web' and used boosts to escape giving me props. Many of these pilots had boosts themselves and still deliver props for a fight well fought. Or they kill me.
I remember my vigilant dying to a 45 man battlecruiser hot-drop. You search for fair and balanced in a game that is and should be anything but.
EVE is not a 1v1 game. If that is the kind of fighting you value best you move to high sec and drop a can outside jita 4-4 or whatever the modern equivalent is.
Expecting an unarranged fair fight in low-sec is really the epitome of stupidity. You will not find one from me, nor do i expect one from anyone else.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.19 09:09:00 -
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Yuri Antollare wrote:
Hell ask Ibanez what happens when all you do is bait/gank with links, people will try and force a gf out of you for a bit, but in the end you're just going to have to move on to a new area, and leave the people who log on for a challenge to their epic gameplay.
Man you know my corp is small and have to fight outnumberd a lot of the time. The Gallente overshipping us and out numbering us in pvp is the one and only reason we trained link alts.
Many of your fellow Gals are using links and we are only evening it up and not running at an advantage a lot of the time.
You yourself have used Yun and Dustbuster73s links + a few others i am sure.
When we lived in Innia you kept making the choice to knowingly come into a home system where we had links and numbers in a certain tz. You guys even bought your own links in and still JUSTKomplained.
I solemnly apologize that you couldn't farm noobs for a few hours of each day without risk while we lived there.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.19 12:12:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:Yuri still makes a fair point. You learn who uses links and add their booster alts to your contact list. When you see them in local you can avoid them if you don't have your own links. (LOL. Here comes so and so with his Tengu and Loki alts. Time to hang out in the POS for a couple of minutes. )
Yeah it is a fair point.
I admit Yuri is a brilliant pvper and does mostly solo - Maybe his game style is the victim us responding to the rest of Gal mil blobbing so often.
But as people will regularly bring in 2x+ the numbers - Smaller corps like mine will always have to use whatever tools are available to fight with.
You never know if more wt will come flooding in and not having links up will = certain defeat due to numbers/being overshipped/both.
I did ask Yuri to join us. He kinda should but he is resisting joining the dark side.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.19 21:04:00 -
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Princess Nexxala wrote:One question to the link haters, say I have HG snakes in my head...and get more speed out of that, is that game breaking as well? Or is that okay because it cost me 3b isk? Or because there is more risk involved? Just curious what everyone thinks.
I have asked the same question before and people seem to think implants are OK.
However implants do not cost more in reality - The sub time to max skill a booster alt + ships + mindlinks and constantly subbing a 2nd account makes boosts much more costly. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.20 01:06:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:Princess Nexxala wrote:One question to the link haters, say I have HG snakes in my head...and get more speed out of that, is that game breaking as well? Or is that okay because it cost me 3b isk? Or because there is more risk involved? Just curious what everyone thinks. I have asked the same question before and people seem to think implants are OK. However implants do not cost more in reality - The sub time to max skill a booster alt + ships + mindlinks and constantly subbing a 2nd account makes boosts much more costly. Horseshit. Legion Boosting Toon: 7.5bCommand Ship Boosting Toon: 22bCS/T3 Boosting Toon: 25bSo, lets imagine you bling it out and buy the 25b isk leadership toon, and put him in a 6 link CS orbiting your POS (+1b). Option 1: 27b isk Total, spending 2.5b isk per implant set to give 10 people in fleet a full snake set, +250m spend giving them all republic fleet warp disruptors and fed navy webs. Option 2: 26b isk Total, spending 25b isk buying the top-of-the-line leaderhip toon, +1b isk to implant and ship him, and provide everyone in fleet the same boosts as a full snake set, make their t2 modules function as effectively as the bling tackle, give them the benefits of a full Halo Set, and give them the benefits of a full crystal set. Oh yeah, Option 2, you'll lose at most 1b isk for the ship/pod if it dies, but it orbits just outside of shields at deathstar POS. With option 1, everytime you lose a ship/pod, you lose 2+b isk. Oops, forgot to add the second account in... That's 500m extra a month. Hmm... if Option 1 loses 1 ship/pod a month, your still way ahead. Now that you understand the reality of the situation, try that again! Which option is more expensive?
I was not taking lost pods or buying toons into account. I was more along the lines of if the toon was trained and kept subbed in the future.
Also - as you have just shown by conjuring up a 10 person fleet to validate your point - the figures can be bent in any way you or I desire. I can simply say - nah I mostly fly alone so why would I need to calculate in 10 sets of implants ?
As I trained my alt and do not buy toons - the money on subbing it, skill books ,ships and keeping it subbed for the years to come - easily outweigh a 3 bil set of implants.
From my perspective: 3Bil isk is maybe the value of approx 6 months of game sub. Just training the toon took maybe 8ish months - Then its 500mil a month for however long I keep it.
So for me its isk cost with ships, implants etc is maybe at 6-8bil by now. (likely more tbh)
As previously said- getting podded was not taken into account. No one cant predict how often that cost will arise if at all. The implants are at more risk being on grid - I don't deny that. But the high grade sets are way more powerful than links so you get more advantage for that risk as well. The real issue is when you combine high grades and links. That is crazy stuff. (10km a sec + hookbills etc)
I can understand that many players in eve want their advantages of High Grade snakes, crystals etc and for as few people as possible to be able to compete with them by using boosts. That is simply caused by a false senses of entitlement on their part. To argue that one douchy game mechanic is better or more valid than another is pointless.
But the reality is: As I have said before. Everyone who plays eve is a douche. I am and all of you are too.
No one of us is any better than the other. I might be a douche and use boosts sometimes - You might be one who over ships, outnumbers and/or uses high grade implants to take part in your form of douchery.
Looking forward to links going ongrid myself. Back to one account, saving a few $ a month (which steam will somehow get I am sure lol) and being able to play in proper Full Screen all the time again will be nice.
So the tl;dr is - Boosts are more expensive unless you derp expensive pods cause derping consistently will eventually become more expensive. (surprise surprise) If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.20 07:56:00 -
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Yuri Antollare wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Yuri Antollare wrote: Literacy... ain't it a *****. Did I say get rid of links? Just passing comment on the type that are glued to them, bit defensive no?
*... paragraphs of drivel ...*
Literacy error is not the correct category, even if i was accusing you of something you did not say. That would be a reading comprehension error. Much like every single wierd strawman paragraph in your post lol. You cant get irate when someone (who didnt) accuses you of saying something you didnt then follow it up with several arguments they didnt say. Well, not without looking a bit silly anyway lol. You are suggesting that people who use boosts are bad. Im just correctly asserting that you are just another tedious uppity dude that thinks the way you play this game is the best. Literacy is the ability to read and write, you respond to something I didn't write, you have a literacy issue or something worse. Your not even being pedantic, just wrong. I'm ignoring your second line as the amount of double negatives obscures what you're trying to say. The guy flying into 20 dudes solo, no I don't think he's bad for using links. The guy that doesnt shut em down so he can obliterate usually equal competition? Yes he is indeed a bad, or he's at least afraid he would lose otherwise. This isn't about what I think is the best way to play, I know what CCP thinks. Fact is you were 'fine' with boosts before the developer had to nerf them, so what you think is fine is near objectively proven to be wrong. The fact that CCP clearly will continue revisiting them should mean something to you too, probably won't though. Me? When I know the mechanic has got to the point the developer has to fix it, and further fixes are waiting on technical solutions, I'm not going to abuse that fact just so I can get some kills. Thats just me though, when something is OP in a game (especially when the devs say they will revisit it) I'm not going to go near it. Especially when it is one of the most blatant P2W mechanis in gaming history. We can't all be good people though obviously.
I blame Khan for this Gallente drama.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.24 00:52:00 -
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Sean Parisi wrote: Who rule forun town?
Dunno but he can spell much better than you.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.24 21:11:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:Here's a viable middle ground solution that actually "fixes" the problem. Create Either one of these: Option 1: A new deployable that hinders all fleet bonuses to any ship on-grid with the deployable. Option 2: A new deployable that simply hinders all fleet bonuses within a system. I created an F&I thread to discuss and balance these devices. Essentially, either one of these creates a counter to fleet boosts that helps balance the playing field.
What a damn good idea.
Keeps everyone happy.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.24 21:58:00 -
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Castnicke Rinah wrote:Because more USEFUL deployables is exactly what Eve needs.
Fixed it for you.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:03:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Yeah, where's the "Jam Links" midslot module that I can put on my ship to jam out fleet boosters? Where's the counter to fleet boosters? Aren't there supposed to be counters in this game other than "bring more of the same!" ?
The counter is a high slot module and has been around for ages.
There are several variants. Arty Missiles Lasers Blasters
All are effective counters to OGB ships. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.25 01:39:00 -
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Castnicke Rinah wrote:At least it means we can laugh at them, knowing that without links they would have lost.
It's what I tell myself every time I die.
Good for you. Keep telling yourself that.
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Posted - 2014.02.25 02:05:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:All the arguments have been presented. All that is left to this thread is trading of insults and the lock.
I think that's how the thread started.
Was all done in reverse to trick those pesky ISD killjoys.
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Posted - 2014.02.26 02:03:00 -
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Smook wrote:
If CCP eliminated links from the game, I wonder what some of you would use as the excuse to justify your losses then... would be great to see that forum thread.
TBH - That is why I prefer they are removed completely.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.26 02:24:00 -
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chatgris wrote: Actually, I try to hide from my fleet unless it starts getting 3-4:1 or 1:1 against Laney. My corpmates have taken to putting cloaked alts outside my plexes so they know when targets come my way so they can rush in to try and ***** on the kills.
Good of you to admit what the rest of Gallente won't about the whole cloaky alt thing.
+1 To Chatgris for honesty about his corp and what lengths they need to go to compete with the Caldari.
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Posted - 2014.02.26 03:29:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote: falcon alts were the bane of solo/small gang pvp for some time but they showed up on KM
Well tbh. Before I used boosts I used to bring in a Griffin and not jam the wt unless it looked like I would lose.
They would see the griffin enter the plex - and start putting their effort into escaping over fighting. Making it less likely I would need to jam them - thus guaranteeing a solo kill in most fights.
95% of the time the Griffin was simply a visual weapon - capable of changing the behavior of the WT.
So '1v1' still wont exist. It never will in EVE. They will only be 1v1 with alts hovering to pounce.
I just came up with a new 'lol 1v1' tactic as I typed the last sentence - will try it tonight - It should be a real tear producer if it works.
Every now and then people actually have to fire a jam on someone and give up the 'SOLO KILL'. Their KB will still look like they are great at 'solo'
Links showing or not showing on killmails is irrelevant to the owner of the boost toon. Only the people without boosts seem to have that concern.
Wont bother anyone I know if CCP showed boosts on killmails.
But the TL;DR is If people hated Falcons so much before - Why are they so interested in going back to that? Why do they think this time it wont be much much worse. (And it will - ECM will be everywhere as that is the easiest and logical move for people who dont unsub their current boost toons) Not being able to lock the enemy at all is worse for '1v1's and new players than boosts are.
I personally will unsub my boost toon over going back to using ECM as dual boxing is not much fun.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:09:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:IbanezLaney wrote: I personally will unsub my boost toon over going back to using ECM as dual boxing is not much fun.
But the above quote is by far the main reason IMO that CCP won't ever bring them on grid.
I thought that too for ages but after hearing Fozzie at Eve Down Under I also now believe boosts will go ongrid at some point.
The real question now is - will they stay ongrid forever or will CCP change it back after a while when they see their bank balance going south?
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:42:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:I've heard the same 'CCP will lose money!' argument right before the last nano nerf and ECM nerf. Yawn.
So I pay $15 x 2 a month = $30 a month. When I have one account I pay $15 x 1 = $15 a month. CCP will lose $15 - So 50% of their earning potential from me a month.
Yawn???? Maffs????
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.02.27 02:37:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Yeah I know, silly game mechanic. Kinda reminds me of training & plexing an alt just to park it in safespots...
IKR.
Or buying one to park in Jita. a supercap an indy pos a bear park in null sec a Falcon
Cause they give their owners no advantage in eve at all............. which is why people buy them............ oh wait.
BAD PEOPLE HOW DARE YOU SUPPORT THIS GAME FINANCIALLY MORE THAN SOMEONE ELSE DOES. IT'S NOT FAIR.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 04:57:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:People pay for links to get an advantage. Yup, I didn't say it's silly to use a silly mechanic if it gives you an edge. But you know what's really unfair? That CCP forces us to go through all the hassle of subbing an alt, training skills and buying ships when they could really just implement these Link Vending Machines, with no significant difference vs current link gameplay. Or am I missing something?
Agreed.
I should also be able to fly a Falcon and Moa on the same toon at the same time and not need a 2nd account for it.
DAMN YOU CCP - SO UNFAIR.
Dude - I get what you are trying to say. But my point is that the advantage of a 2nd account is there no matter what it is doing.
Do market people complain that the next guy has 2 market toons and can double their turnover? Do the miners complain that another dude has mining boosts or 2 hulks and is getting a bigger profit for his time?
Sometimes it feels like I am in the mission runners forum section but - they complain less about things being unfair. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
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Posted - 2014.03.02 22:10:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:Zarnak Wulf wrote:I've heard the same 'CCP will lose money!' argument right before the last nano nerf and ECM nerf. Yawn. I don't think a lot of these people understand the notion of improving your product leading to better sales.
Eve is a niche with such a small audience that to gain enough new permanent players to make up for people unsubbing alts would be difficult.
How many 'players' do you think there really are when you consider most people have 2 accounts and I know many with 5+ and even a few who claim 9+.
So when it says 50k people online - how many people do you think are sitting at keyboards and sending CCP money each month?
Deduct 2-3k from the online figures for dust. Safe to assume 40% of the people online have 2 accounts logged in. (Likely more but being generous here) Applying common sense and rough math tells you that if there are around 22K individual players online at best. The rest are their alts.
I left my dusty logged in most of the weekend - So I alone was counted as 3 people on TQ. On that average there are 16K people when 50K are logged in.
Doesn't leave many single account holders even if you are generous with the figures.
The hard truth is: Eve is not popular with the general gaming community. It is just too hard for them and that's why they don't play. 99% don't even know what boost alts are and have never heard of them.
Are new players magically staying away from eve due to something they have never heard about? Obviously not. So it's not boosts stopping the game growing.
If CCP make the Eve more 'popular' - it will need to be so dumbed down so much for the general gaming population that its current player base will leave.
Not many individual people play this game. Keeping people with alts happy is where the $$$ is. The single account holder who complains about alts is not someone who keeps the $$$ rolling in for CCP.
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:44:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:Do you have any numbers that aren't made up or anecdotal?
No I have common sense and the ability to ask people how many accounts they have. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
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Posted - 2014.03.03 21:24:00 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Complaining about links in lowsec is really top-notch. When are implants scheduled for dispute, like slaves?
It's one thing to fly with an OGB that can easily be probed down and killed, or to fly with a pirate-imp'ed pod that no one can ever touch.
^^ This man gets it.
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Posted - 2014.03.03 21:25:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:
Grasping ......................................................... at......................................................Straws
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Posted - 2014.03.04 02:58:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:IbanezLaney wrote: We know man, we know.
I'm not the guy who made a length post composed of numbers pulled directly from my anus.
I will help you. You know the old 'Give a man a fish .....' saying.
Here is your homework: Try asking people how many toons they have.
Look at corps you know - how many toons are in those corps and what % of those are alts. Magic right??? Who knew maths could work stuff/averages out???
I do not need figures from CCP to get a good ballpark average. You might not be capable of this - understandable.
But the irony here is - What you are accusing me of is actually what you yourself are guilty of. Your entire point is based on pure speculation about people who haven't even played eve yet that might play eve if something they don't know about isn't in the game they haven't played.
Crosi said it very well.
From your quoting of his post and your response, it is clear you did not comprehend what he posted either. Maybe read his post again and you will maybe, just maybe be able to work out who is pulling the most out of their anus.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.03.20 23:17:00 -
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Zoe Fishpants wrote: I used to like visiting Smook, and I think I gave him and his corp some decent fights from time to time. Now that they've gone linky I don't bother.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:16:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote: I actually hate killboards, I've said more than once that killmails only serve to kill off 'gudfights'.
I have heard people say this and seen it posted on the forums numerous times.
But not once has anyone but forward a valid reason as to why/how killboards effect fights.
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IbanezLaney
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:55:00 -
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Gypsio III wrote:The on/off grid thing is a smokescreen, links are hugely overpowered wherever they are. In a world where we pay around 60-100 mill for a single ship to increase its tackle range by 25-40%, the existence of a 2 mill mod that gives 24% range to every ship in your fleet is absurdly OP.
Which 2 mil mod are you talking about?
Oh - the one that needs a toon trained for 9 months + 360 mil mindlink + a command ship that can be killed at anytime just like any other toon/pod.
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Gypsio III wrote:No. The 2 mill one fitted on a T1 BC without a mindlink.
And the SP requirement is simply a barrier to exclude new players. If you're going to have such stupidly overpowered modules, then they need to be available to everyone.
The modules are available to everyone. That is the entire point. Just like hauler alts, mining alts, mission alts or any other alt that gives an advantage over having one toon in eve.
In your theory - all beginners should have access to a Titan cause you know..... SP barriers.
And a link on a T1 BC is not that powerful. (Excluding maybe one of the info ones).
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Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Lilith Velkor wrote:Aivo Dresden wrote:Not quite sure why people say 'T3s need to be rebalanced if they are required to boost on grid'. You can already tank them up quite effectively. If you want to do better, get a command ship. T3s shouldn't outperform CS really. I dont get that either, as it stands you'll get acceptable tank, cloaky warp, bubble immunity and workable dps, all while running a warfare link. Now name a command ship that does that, and we can talk about t3 needing a buff in that regard. About all the "probe it down, alpha on station etc" suggestions, you have to realize the actual problem is not large-scale pvp, links are absolutely fine there. The problem is with small-scale and solo pvp, where they tend to upset a very fragile balance, mostly when we are talking frigate size hulls. The whole "alpha on station" deal is gonna be a problem in frigate hulls, as is the "decloak and kill on gate" if you dont have the luxury of a decent size gang. Besides, and please excuse my ignorance regarding hisec mechanics, I believe concord will not really like you attacking a booster ship that didnt commit a crime. EVE is not solo game, get some friends, and you you can suicide gank booster ships in highsec, they do gank even miners so why not booster ships. Always grinds my gears when people say this.. Eve is a solo game, just like it is a small gang & large scale PvP game. It's sandbox remember? The problem is off-grid links NOT ONLY has such a large impact on Solo PvP, but ALSO small gang PvP. I have no doubt in my mind off-grid boosts will eventually get nerfed, giving such a large advantage whilst being so risk adverse simply doesn't make sense. Think about it, if they were willing to nerf ECM not long ago (falcon alts), it's inevitable off-grid boosts will be as well. I think I speak for many when I say I'd rather deal with a Falcon on grid then an off-grid booster. People say highsec carebears are bad.... Some of you proclaimed "PvP'ers" need to start putting your balls on the field and man up.
Expecting solo in an MMO is beyond silly. If you want a solo game try Tetris.
If concord are an issue for you - Then you need to adapt and remove them from the equation by pvping in low or null sec and stop being risk averse by wanting NPC protection.
It is 100% your own doing if concord are available in the system you 'pvp' in. (Pretending high sec pvp is real pvp just for you cause I'm a nice guy)
You have the issue so you need to adapt - Not the people you refuse to compete with.
You say you would really rather a Falcon on field than a booster be used??? Really???? I somehow doubt that is true. Other people would rather be able to fire/web/scram than just die with no ability to fight back. (Except you of course)
CCP might nerf boosts further but their bottom line will suffer considerably. The people who use boosts are not against saving $15 a month.
It is people like yourself who are against others spending an extra $15 a month who have the issue.
What will you want removed if boosts go? You will need another excuse for your failure then. ECM? Damps? Combat Alts? Larger corps? Docked since 2009. |
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Posted - 2014.04.01 05:23:00 -
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Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:IbanezLaney wrote: Expecting solo in an MMO is beyond silly. If you want a solo game try Tetris.
If concord are an issue for you - Then you need to adapt and remove them from the equation by pvping in low or null sec and stop being risk averse by wanting NPC protection.
It is 100% your own doing if concord are available in the system you 'pvp' in. (Pretending high sec pvp is real pvp just for you cause I'm a nice guy)
You have the issue so you need to adapt - Not the people you refuse to compete with.
You say you would really rather a Falcon on field than a booster be used??? Really???? I somehow doubt that is true. Other people would rather be able to fire/web/scram than just die with no ability to fight back. (Except you of course)
CCP might nerf boosts further but their bottom line will suffer considerably. The people who use boosts are not against saving $15 a month.
It is people like yourself who are against others spending an extra $15 a month who have the issue.
What will you want removed if boosts go? You will need another excuse for your failure then. ECM? Damps? Combat Alts? Larger corps?
Expecting solo in an MMO is beyond silly? I think this video disagrees with you. Yes I would much rather a Falcon on grid, because it's still very viable to split targets away from the Falcon where they have no impact on the fight. Very hard, yes... but it's achievable. No matter what you do, a T3 off-grid booster will always have an impact.
It is still silly no matter how many you tube links you post.
The dude in that video is not 'solo'.
He is using links. Example: Look at both the unheated and over heated point ranges from 21:21 on.
Seems the video you linked agrees with me.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:51:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:I'd like to come at this from another direction. We've heard a lot of reasons why it's "OK" to have them of grid. I'd like to compile a list of why they "need" to be off grid.
Reasons boosting ships NEED to be off grid:
(I'm asking, so please - make me a list)
Easy. Here are a few of the basic ones I have seen/heard and said myself before.
Reason 1: Because CCP want an extra $15 a month from people. If they go ongrid - CCP will take a huge financial hit and people will spend that $15 a month on new Steam games instead of Eve.
Reason 2: Station games are all that Eve will be as it is the only play style that will suit ongrid boosting.
Reason 3: The people who are complaining about boosts will just move on to something else and say it is 'unfair' instead of adapting and competing. That is the nature of the whinger. They blame everyone else or 'the system' for their own failures and expect everyone else to change to make up for their shortcomings. Some misguided fools even think an MMO should be 'solo' when and if they choose.
Reason 4: Some people might even feel that CCP has ripped them off and unsub all accounts. They will see there is no point training anything long term or investing their play time in Eve as CCP could render it useless and all their toons unsaleable in the future.
Reason 5: The single account 'solo' dreamer is not as valuable a customer as someone with multiple accounts who gives CCP more $$ each month.
I am sure others can come up with more reasons.
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Posted - 2014.04.04 14:49:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:OK, I've boiled all that down to "I'm afraid to lose my ship"
Any different reasons?
And this kids is why you should say no to drugs and frontal lobotomys.
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