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Pap1sT
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:49:00 -
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I'm a new-ish player in a hurricane with tier 2 weapons and modules. I really want to do the Sisters of Eve epic arc but I keep hearing reports that players are getting ganked while trying to complete missions. I only have the one hurricane so I really can't afford to lose it (also low on funds from outfitting it with tier 2 stuff). also my piloting skills aren't great so I think I'd make an easy target if attacked.
Should I go for it? |
Morrigan LeSante
The Lost and Forgotten Troopers
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:59:00 -
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As in.....Dagan?
Just insure it. |
Tiddlypeeps
Ars ex Discordia RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.14 16:28:00 -
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If you post up your ships fit people might be able to help you optimise it or they will at least have a better idea of how well it's fit for these missions.
You should have no problem with this in a cane tho. If memory severs the drones on burning down the hive use warp scramblers so just be careful on that one, but it shouldn't be a problem.
Dagan usually gives people trouble. I tried him with a Trasher with mostly T2 fittings and was going toe to toe with him for ages, ended up getting help because it was pretty close. So you should have no issue in a hurricane. |
Nightingale Actault
The Night Crew The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.14 16:56:00 -
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The people getting killed doing Sister's of EVE missions are running level 4 missions in blinged out battleships. You shouldn't have to worry about being ganked doing the epic arc.
Always remember that a ganker operates to gain isk (rarely will do so just for tears) and if your ship does not have expensive enough modules to cover the cost of their gank ship it is far less likely to be a target.
Also, for most of the epic arc your hurricane may actually be too much of a ship. You may be better off with a frigate until you get to Dagan. Breaking out your hurricane to kill Dagan however would be optimal. |
Pap1sT
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:18:00 -
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I thought sisters of eve was only lvl1? |
Nightingale Actault
The Night Crew The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.14 19:00:00 -
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Sisters of EVE has agents for lvl 1-4. As you increase your standings with them you will unlock the higher level agents. Since you're already running missions for them, you may want to check in the Agent Finder, and increase the mission level bar to find where your next agents will be.
You may need to uncheck/change options for show only available. |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Sicarius Draconis
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Posted - 2014.02.14 19:14:00 -
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Troll? |
Selaria Unbertable
POS Mortem Renegades Of Silence
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Posted - 2014.02.14 20:03:00 -
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Pap1sT wrote:I'm a new-ish player in a hurricane with tier 2 weapons and modules. I really want to do the Sisters of Eve epic arc but I keep hearing reports that players are getting ganked while trying to complete missions. I only have the one hurricane so I really can't afford to lose it (also low on funds from outfitting it with tier 2 stuff). also my piloting skills aren't great so I think I'd make an easy target if attacked.
Should I go for it?
And if I do, can you recommend any special fittings, like stabs?
Don't fly what you cannot afford to lose. That is one of the first advices I got from my friends when they talked me into EVE. And it served me well so far. Apart from that, the SoE epic arc is intended for rookies, players with low skill points able to fly frigates and cruisers. Most missions are doable in a T1 frig, and only a few are really tough, including the one where you kill Dagan. If you are afraid of losing your ship, consider a cruiser. That should be more than enough. The epic arc consists of a lot of missions, where you have to travel from one empire to another. And then back. And then even more traveling. Seriously, most of the time spend during the arc is traveling, and a BC is slow. I would use a frigate or a destroyer, maybe a cruiser for the arc, the firepower of a BC is not really required, and it may have tracking issues, as most of the mission rats are frigates. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.14 21:14:00 -
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Far as Ive understood it, you wont be ganked in a T2 fit Hurricane.
The gankers are after multibillion targets. |
Gimme more Cynos
Du nervst geh sterben
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Posted - 2014.02.15 10:48:00 -
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Unlikely that you will get ganked.
A T2 Hurricane isn't worth the hassle of chasing you through the arc. Also, it is way overkill for the arc itself. Use a cheap cruiser at the max. I would suggest a destroyer or AF. |
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.02.15 15:24:00 -
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Although its not as noob friendly as a destroyer or cruiser an interdictor makes a wonderful SoE epic arc runner due to its high warp speed and ability to mulch NPC frigates. |
Fred P
Carebears of New Eden
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Posted - 2014.02.15 17:55:00 -
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In my experience, you shouldn't ever be worried about getting ganked by players while flying a tech one or two ship with meta 1-4 or t2 fit. At least not in high-sec. I regularly autopilot, or let my ship sit on a gate for a long time while I'm tabbed out of the game, and the only reason someone would gank you is if they're incredibly bored, and are of the ganking persuasion. Just be wary of people who try to make you agress them, and you'll be fine.
With regards to the epic arc, while a hurricane could probably do it, if it is indeed allowed inside all the mission sites, I would recommend against using a battlecruiser, or even a cruiser, to do the arc. It might work if you fit for loads and loads of tracking, or use a missile one with rapid light missile launchers. But there are so many small targets, that I would use a frigate or destroyer for the arc instead. I did it in an Astero, and forgot to turn on my repairer in one of the missions, and I still got out alive, even though I didn't notice before everything was dead. It is worth noting that the Astero has no damage bonus, and I only fit 1 or 2 drone damage amplifiers on it, so dps shouldn't be a problem before getting to dagan, and I even took him out. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2014.02.15 21:12:00 -
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Since this has been dangling out here for a couple of days....
The ganks you hear about with regard to SoE missions are related to the normal L4 missions from the corporation. These occur with some regularity and target expensive -- as in billion + drop potential -- mission ships in specific hubs. Not only is a T2 fit Hurricane nowhere near the threshold of being worth a gank attempt, the SoE epic arc doesn't take you near the hot spot systems. Hell, Hek is probably the most dangerous place you go on the entire route.
As has already been said, a T2 Hurricane is also overkill for the epic arc. It can be completed in any destroyer and most frigates these days (providing you have decent skills on the latter). In fact, I wouldn't even consider a Hurricane -- or any BC -- for the arc. For most players who run it the majority of time is spent traveling from system to system; increasing kill speed at the cost of slower interstellar travel actually draws the whole thing out immeasurably.
There is a single mission that could justify bringing in heavy guns -- An Eye on Everything. It's strictly optional to kill the carrier, but it can be done. Not with a Hurricane though. |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
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Posted - 2014.02.15 21:28:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:Although its not as noob friendly as a destroyer or cruiser an interdictor makes a wonderful SoE epic arc runner due to its high warp speed and ability to mulch NPC frigates.
Personally I found the Cerberus with rapid lights to be a very effective runner once combined with an AB and warp speed rigs, extra slots replaced with agility mods. |
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.16 01:10:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:As has already been said, a T2 Hurricane is also overkill for the epic arc. It can be completed in any destroyer and most frigates these days (providing you have decent skills on the latter).
I've done it, combat and all, in both a noctis(before it had drones) and a velator(before the massive buff). >_< thhief ghabmoef |
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
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Posted - 2014.02.16 01:52:00 -
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You'll be fine on the SOE epic arc with that ship. The ganks happen to L4 mission runners in expensive ships and it's still semi-rare.
But putting up that you are broke as can be and flying with every penny you got in your ship can make you fat gank target. Because people like the LOL's.
But there is also the option that you want them to attempt it and are an alt troll. Maybe just saying that on the forums helped people rethink it?
Eve is like that. |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
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Posted - 2014.02.16 03:07:00 -
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I got baited and killed in a mostly T1-fit Myrmidon (and oh god that fit--that might have been what did it, actually).
Run it in a small ship, like a destroyer or cruiser or assault frigate, and you should be OK. The only people coming after you will be doing it for LOLs.
Just keep D-scan up and your eyes open. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2038
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Posted - 2014.02.16 04:03:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:As has already been said, a T2 Hurricane is also overkill for the epic arc. It can be completed in any destroyer and most frigates these days (providing you have decent skills on the latter). I've done it, combat and all, in both a noctis(before it had drones) and a velator(before the massive buff). >_<
You have the patience of a saint. |
Frank Millar
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Posted - 2014.02.16 11:17:00 -
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As said, a Hurricane is waaay overkill for The Bloodstained Stars.
I used a Coercer with beamlasers, an afterburner, a small armor repper, an eanm and two heatsinks. Since then the slot layout of the Coercer has been changed, so you'd have to do with one heatsink less and something extra in the mids.
I don't think I had any significant problems with Dagan either. |
ashley Eoner
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Posted - 2014.02.17 02:05:00 -
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Pap1sT wrote:I'm a new-ish player in a hurricane with tier 2 weapons and modules. I really want to do the Sisters of Eve epic arc but I keep hearing reports that players are getting ganked while trying to complete missions. I only have the one hurricane so I really can't afford to lose it (also low on funds from outfitting it with tier 2 stuff). also my piloting skills aren't great so I think I'd make an easy target if attacked.
Should I go for it?
And if I do, can you recommend any special fittings, like stabs? I've been doing it every 3 months with 4-7 accounts in BCs which include a myrmidon that is shield tanked with pure dps in mind, fleet issue hurricanes and navy harbingers (all DPS minded with shield buffer/resist tanks). There's no kill like overkill and when you're doing +600 dps the arc is much quicker to do. I just did it again a month or so ago and I saw nothing resembling ganking going on.
EDIT : No one will bother you with the arnon arc unless you're running expensive mods on a low tank ship. t2 doesn't qualify.
You're confusing level 4 SOE mission runners with the arnon based story arc that resets every 3 months. Level 4 runners are indeed being ganked but those are the ones with billions in modules. |
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2074
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Posted - 2014.02.17 05:34:00 -
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As someone that does some of the mission ganking you are talking about from time to time, I wouldn't bother with mission ganking in any of the systems that arc will take you to.
That said you should be vigilant, and NEVER fly anything you cannot afford to lose. EVER.
I would advise you to downship into a cruiser or even a destroyer for the arc (an assault frigate, if you can fly one, is perfect) - there is a lot of travel involved in the arc, and smaller ships are much faster at that than a Hurricane will be. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Melody Cadelanne
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:20:00 -
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Pap1sT wrote:I only have the one hurricane so I really can't afford to lose it (also low on funds from outfitting it with tier 2 stuff).
Keep in mind one of the Golden Rules of EVE - Never undock/fly what you can't afford to lose. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:45:00 -
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Erm... I do the SoE arc solo with an Assault Frigate, a Blaster Harpy.
The arc can be completed in a destroyer or cruiser, though a cruiser is a lot easier. |
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