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Macjac	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:02:00 - [1] So, I was roaming around V2-VC2 looking for some good fights, and asked in local for a 1v1 after finding nothing engable....this is the outcome: [ 2006.04.14 14:33:58 ] Xuxxina > Ill duel you [ 2006.04.14 14:34:14 ] Macjac > me? [ 2006.04.14 14:34:18 ] Xuxxina > yes [ 2006.04.14 14:34:28 ] Macjac > everyone in local agree not to interfere? [ 2006.04.14 14:34:41 ] Spanjab > k [ 2006.04.14 14:34:43 ] carcinos > likewise [ 2006.04.14 14:34:45 ] Notius Maximus > sure [ 2006.04.14 14:34:48 ] Macjac > undocking [ 2006.04.14 14:35:08 ] Macjac > we go to planet 1 ok? [ 2006.04.14 14:35:23 ] Macjac > kos, when u reach there [ 2006.04.14 14:35:37 ] Macjac > ok shoot here then [ 2006.04.14 14:37:06 ] Spanjab > Bua, leave it m8 [ 2006.04.14 14:37:09 ] Macjac > wtf? [ 2006.04.14 14:37:16 ] Macjac > someone else is engaging me [ 2006.04.14 14:37:22 ] Buadyen > I never agreed [ 2006.04.14 14:37:27 ] Macjac > OMFG [ 2006.04.14 14:37:28 ] Spanjab > :/ [ 2006.04.14 14:37:28 ] Aneis > Buad, man, that's not cool [ 2006.04.14 14:37:40 ] Spanjab > give us a bad name Bua :( [ 2006.04.14 14:37:54 ] Macjac > **in cheats [ 2006.04.14 14:39:11 ] Dobberman > LOL @ nuuubs with no honor [ 2006.04.14 14:39:24 ] Justin Marr > hell, I didn't know that [ 2006.04.14 14:39:34 ] Macjac > i in typed it in local [ 2006.04.14 14:39:37 ] Macjac > U ALL IN AGREED! [ 2006.04.14 14:39:53 ] carcinos > i never engaged [ 2006.04.14 14:39:55 ] Justin Marr > I didn't read local till now. :( [ 2006.04.14 14:40:19 ] D'Jannek > The majority of us upheld it. [ 2006.04.14 14:40:27 ] Aneis > Yes, the majority of us did. [ 2006.04.14 14:40:31 ] Dobberman > Ohhh like that will help lol [ 2006.04.14 14:40:38 ] Aneis > Hey, I wish we all had. [ 2006.04.14 14:40:43 ] Macjac > in no honor at all in ur whole alliance [ 2006.04.14 14:40:55 ] Mikero Stan > there is no honor in war [ 2006.04.14 14:40:55 ] Justin Marr > Now I want to go hide in shame. [ 2006.04.14 14:40:56 ] Aneis > Let's keep the smack out. Upset or not. [ 2006.04.14 14:40:56 ] Macjac > if u upheld it tell u in members to stop [ 2006.04.14 14:40:59 ] Macjac > not in watch [ 2006.04.14 14:41:12 ] ImmortaL ZoorZ > aaah stop shooting meh buhu [ 2006.04.14 14:41:20 ] Macjac > shut up, 1v1 is the only most honorable thing in this game [ 2006.04.14 14:41:20 ] Achilles Thorongmor > Stop talking in local Huzzah [ 2006.04.14 14:41:26 ] Macjac > and u **in dishonor it [ 2006.04.14 14:41:55 ] Rez74 > please don't swear in our system [ 2006.04.14 14:42:17 ] ImmortaL ZoorZ > you'll wake the children up [ 2006.04.14 14:42:21 ] Jaldo Dron > yeah don't swear in our system or we migth have to kill you [ 2006.04.14 14:42:23 ] Jaldo Dron > /emote dies [ 2006.04.14 14:42:23 ] Spanjab > take it to a planet next time to avoid accedental additionals :( [ 2006.04.14 14:42:31 ] Macjac > i DID say planet [ 2006.04.14 14:42:38 ] Macjac > she scrambled me as i undocked [ 2006.04.14 14:42:41 ] Jaldo Dron > he did say planet [ 2006.04.14 14:42:57 ] Stigmat > ..!., [ 2006.04.14 14:43:10 ] Macjac > ill be posting this on eve-o let the world know how honorable u are [ 2006.04.14 14:43:25 ] Macjac > so no other will be cheated by u [ 2006.04.14 14:43:42 ] Achilles Thorongmor > Cool. And to confirm: 2006.04.14 14:39 Victim: Macjac Alliance: Firmus Ixion Corp: Eternity Inc Destroyed: Maller System: V2-VC2 Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Xuxxina Security: 1.9 Alliance: HUZZAH FEDERATION Corp: Ars Caelestis Ship: Rupture Weapon: Rupture Name: Notius Maximus Security: 1.1 Alliance: HUZZAH FEDERATION Corp: Ars Caelestis Ship: Thorax Weapon: Infiltrator I Post went too long, so see FIX KB. This is for you leaders if HF sort your members out, and for the rest of EVE beware before engaging 1v1 with huzzah, ever! My 2 cents. Reality can be beaten with enough imagination...
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:03:00 - [2] OHNOES!!! /o\ --------------------------------
Zubenelgenubi	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:04:00 - [3] yawn mate. convo hans or something. Signature file size to big, please keep it under 24000 bytes. Please e-mail us at [email protected] with any questions - Petwraith
Darpz	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:06:00 - [4] thats not cool this is a subject I feel strongly about. I repeat not cool. The only good fix is a DEAD fix
jarack	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:06:00 - [5] this isnt the first time this happened with huzzah federation, i agreed to do a 5 v 1 with huzzah if they didnt get my pod i had the chat logs to prove, send it to hans roaming, hes a reasonable guy got my reimbursed rather fast. Huzzah have no loyalty in fights now obviously, death to huzzah federation
Zubenelgenubi	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:09:00 - [6] human nature darpz. Bit naive to expect much else really. maybe im just cynical dunno. :) Signature file size to big, please keep it under 24000 bytes. Please e-mail us at [email protected] with any questions - Petwraith
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Darpz thats not cool this is a subject I feel strongly about. I repeat not cool. Indeed. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Wizie	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:11:00 - [8] Thats about as lame as it gets. Huzzah were never known for being a great alliance anyhow.
GO MaZ	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:12:00 - [9] VERY not cool, If I were in charge I'd make whoever did it KOS until they learn not to do crap like that - 1v1's are 1v1's. Please dont take this to represent all of HF, some of us actually respect 1v1's (even if we dont have the balls to do em ). It's rather unfortunate that that happened but hans should deal with that
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:15:00 - [10] Yeah this is not cool at all you have the Federations official appology and we've already paid you your 13mil loss on your ship and equipment. The alliance does not condone this behavior in its members. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Boonaki	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:17:00 - [11] I imagine if Huzzah has any respect, they'll give ya your isk back. If not, do they have any outposts? :P Most humans are inherently intelligent, what happened to you?
Macjac	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:19:00 - [12] I would like to thank Hans Roaming, he did pay back and apologize, tho shape up your lads. That is all. Mac Reality can be beaten with enough imagination...
Voltron	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:19:00 - [13] Originally by: Hans Roaming Yeah this is not cool at all you have the Federations official appology and we've already paid you your 13mil loss on your ship and equipment. The alliance does not condone this behavior in its members. It's balls that it happened, but kudos to this man for sortin it out. Volt
HuDDy	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:20:00 - [14] n1 Hans and Zub i think its just u dood most people respect 1v1s
Jennie Marlboro	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:23:00 - [15] Originally by: Hans Roaming Yeah this is not cool at all you have the Federations official appology and we've already paid you your 13mil loss on your ship and equipment. The alliance does not condone this behavior in its members. ^^^^^^^^ Respect! The revolution will not be televised. It will, however, be available on pay-per-view.
Wizie	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:24:00 - [16] Originally by: Hans Roaming Yeah this is not cool at all you have the Federations official appology and we've already paid you your 13mil loss on your ship and equipment. The alliance does not condone this behavior in its members. Kudos.
Edoo	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:38:00 - [17] Fair enough the guy who engaged you is a ****, but you are completely wrong to judge Huzzah all as cheaters when they blatently condemn it in local here.
Jarek Naumen	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:38:00 - [18] Next time you should gang him and fight at a safespot. Well this won't save you from being ganked while undocking though :(...i suggest you make instaundock bms in the systems you visit often. ROA Recruitment Mercs 4tw :)
HellsRazor	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:44:00 - [19] Originally by: Darpz thats not cool this is a subject I feel strongly about. I repeat not cool. I agree, if it was an accident... because some pilots do have local bug. the right way to correct this would have been replacement ISK atleast. 1 vs 1 is one of the most honorable things you can do in this game.
Macjac	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:44:00 - [20] Firstly look on the kb, alot of them engaged, and more were undocking and warping in, tho ok fair enough i was angry and not all huzzah are as such. Reality can be beaten with enough imagination...
Verone	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:48:00 - [21] Originally by: Hans Roaming Yeah this is not cool at all you have the Federations official appology and we've already paid you your 13mil loss on your ship and equipment. The alliance does not condone this behavior in its members. So boot them out, it's the only way to make sure that it doesn't happen again under your banner. Set an example. VETO MEMBER MOVIES
Bedrock	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:49:00 - [22] Edited by: Bedrock on 14/04/2006 15:49:37 Yes not cool, but some things are out of your control. You can't control each player in your alliance, but you can deal with it afterwords. Just like how a FIX member hired merc's at FoFF, that certainly isn't controllable no matter how bad it makes the alliance look. It's how it's dealt with that matters. I'm sure Hans will sort this out. ------------------ Frustrated:
Crellion	Posted - 2006.04.14 15:54:00 - [23] Edited by: Crellion on 14/04/2006 15:55:31 Trully the whole behaviour (comments in local) of huzzah members is worth a good bit of spanking... especially the idiotic go to planet comments. I had my friend lose a raven in a slow 1v1 with our (at the time) main enemy in time of alliance war. I was sitting 3km from enemy ship and had them both locked the whole time in my Nos Domi. In the end I asked enemy raven politely to pick up his spolis (loot) and redock or warp out and gave him 2 min before he was KOS again (to incl time to leave system if he so wanted). Thats how 1v1 is in eve for those with honour. respect to Huzzah leadership for paying back isk etc but I cant quite get over the impressions that chat log gave me of their members. Perhaps consider what Verone said esp. for that guy who says "sure" on the chat log and has second highest dmg on the killmail lol
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2006.04.14 16:14:00 - [24] Originally by: Hans Roaming Yeah this is not cool at all you have the Federations official appology and we've already paid you your 13mil loss on your ship and equipment. The alliance does not condone this behavior in its members. Very good example of leadership and taking responsibility right there. Turns a public relations fiasco into a big plus for the Huzzah Federation repution. Well done Hans Roaming. _________________
0Virtu0	Posted - 2006.04.14 16:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Hans Roaming Yeah this is not cool at all you have the Federations official appology and we've already paid you your 13mil loss on your ship and equipment. The alliance does not condone this behavior in its members. So boot them out, it's the only way to make sure that it doesn't happen again under your banner. Set an example. Agreed.
Toksin	Posted - 2006.04.14 16:16:00 - [26] Respect to Hans Roaming for reply and re-imbursement. But like Verone says, you gotta have an example. So boot em. --------------- My views do not reflect the views of my corp, or my own views.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.04.14 16:26:00 - [27] If anyone smacked in local who was in Huzzah please contact me with details as we do not condone that either, the people concerned for the dishonouring the 1 vs 1 have been chastised for their actions. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Rin'Drir	Posted - 2006.04.14 16:33:00 - [28] Macjac your the one who sounds like he needs to grow up, the rest of the people in local were being courteous and you can't get a sentence off without **** in it.
Mindlles	Posted - 2006.04.14 16:34:00 - [29] well u schould be glad that they didnt invite u to gang and warped u to pos.... They have a quite big history doing so.. _____________________________________________
Rhobin	Posted - 2006.04.14 16:50:00 - [30] hay guys great idea next time you run into a gatecamp or something ask for a 1v1 and then when they gank you anyway for being dumb enough to be where you shouldn't be you can post on eve-o about how cruel the world is
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.04.14 16:51:00 - [31] Lame, but you didnt have to be all LOMGCAPSLOCK ANNOYED about it in local Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
Macjac	Posted - 2006.04.14 16:56:00 - [32] Originally by: Rin'Drir Macjac your the one who sounds like he needs to grow up, the rest of the people in local were being courteous and you can't get a sentence off without **** in it. Read. Understand. Reply. Now why did i swear? Mac Reality can be beaten with enough imagination...
Achilles Thorongmor	Posted - 2006.04.14 16:58:00 - [33] Edited by: Achilles Thorongmor on 14/04/2006 17:03:03 Buadyen and Notius are my pilots. I will take care of this. Look for another payout for your ship and equipment from them. In the future, don't duel in one of our home systems, especially since Local is very buggy. I was in system, and missed almost the entire converstation up until a couple lines before I posted this: [ 2006.04.14 14:41:20 ] Achilles Thorongmor > Stop talking in local Huzzah I had to log to get local to start working again. Everyone knows Huzzah is honorable, and will happily do 1 vs. 1, but it needs to be coordinated better than this was. Some guy logs on in the middle of the battle and undocks, and you get incidents like this. Once again, I apologize and will handle my pilot as well as reimburse you again for your loss. Achilles Thorongmor CEO, Ars Caelestis Vice President, Huzzah HAF Fleet Commander
Macjac	Posted - 2006.04.14 16:59:00 - [34] Originally by: Rhobin hay guys great idea next time you run into a gatecamp or something ask for a 1v1 and then when they gank you anyway for being dumb enough to be where you shouldn't be you can post on eve-o about how cruel the world is I was docked, i did not have to undock. Reality can be beaten with enough imagination...
DeathWarrior	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:00:00 - [35] Originally by: Achilles Thorongmor Buadyen is one of my pilots. I will take care of this. Look for another payout for your ship and equipment from him. In the future, don't duel in one of our home systems, especially since Local is very buggy. I was in system, and missed almost the entire converstation up until a couple lines before I posted this: [ 2006.04.14 14:41:20 ] Achilles Thorongmor > Stop talking in local Huzzah I had to log to get local to start working again. Everyone knows Huzzah is honorable, and will happily do 1 vs. 1, but it needs to be coordinated better than this was. Some guy logs on in the middle of the battle and undocks, and you get incidents like this. Once again, I apologize and will handle my pilot as well as reimburse you again for your loss. Achilles Thorongmor CEO, Ars Caelestis Vice President, Huzzah HAF Fleet Commander You can all shoot me in 1v1's anytime Originally by: Tuxford I once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
Macjac	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:02:00 - [36] Originally by: alpheon Firstly, let me say that yeah, some of my alliance mates acted stupid, shame on them, and thank you Hans for paying Mac back in consequence... But, lets look at a larger picture shall we? Huzzah and FIX have been fighting for the past week, some major engagements, I'd say its War, 0.0 style. So you decide its a smart idea to fly to our Headquarters... and see what's up? Sorry dude, not the smartest place to ask for 1v1 right now. So whats wrong with asking for a 1v1? so what if its your HQ, i was there to get some kills, point is if u dont want to 1v1 then dont say yes and then gank. simple. Reality can be beaten with enough imagination...
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:04:00 - [37] Originally by: Hans Roaming Yeah this is not cool at all you have the Federations official appology and we've already paid you your 13mil loss on your ship and equipment. The alliance does not condone this behavior in its members. omg hans! Can we do lunch? Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Mobile Oak	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:13:00 - [38] Originally by: Macjac So, I was roaming around V2-VC2 looking for some good fights, and asked in local for a 1v1 after finding nothing engable.... [ 2006.04.14 14:42:38 ] Macjac > she scrambled me as i undocked I'm having trouble reconciling these two statements. Were you being camped at a station or were you roaming and unable to find someone to engage? And looking at your killboard there's another FIX that died at the same time in the same system. Was that person involved in the "1 on 1"? You may have quoted local, but there's really not a good description of what happened or the background details.
Rhobin	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:15:00 - [39] Originally by: Macjac point is if u dont want to 1v1 then dont say yes and then gank. simple. that's exactly what they did. they didn't say yes and then ganked. see, you've already got exactly what you asked for!
Tessa Vaako	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:21:00 - [40] I'm also going to toss in a personal apology as it seems I'm on the Killmail as well. Although I don't recall agressing you Macjac, I may have made a mistake when your corp member warped in, as I did have both dualists locked to watch the status of the fight. Tessa Vaako -- Ars Caelestis Public Relations Director The Future is Exciting. Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces
Emeline Cabernet	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:23:00 - [41] omg NO!!! this must be the end of eve. why is huzzah rolling over? theres been 4-5 threads about this so far this when other alliances had members who did this.. AND, the answer they got was "wtf! you're in THEIR space, at war...wtf did you expect??"
Kalil d'Maelstromo	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:26:00 - [42] Quote: [ 2006.04.14 14:37:16 ] Macjac > someone else is engaging me [ 2006.04.14 14:37:22 ] Buadyen > I never agreed [ 2006.04.14 14:37:27 ] Macjac > OMFG [ 2006.04.14 14:37:28 ] Spanjab > :/ [ 2006.04.14 14:37:28 ] Aneis > Buad, man, that's not cool [ 2006.04.14 14:37:40 ] Spanjab > give us a bad name Bua :( Yeah every alliance has asshats but that doesn't mean we all are or that a single person is ever the asshat. It also does not mean the corp the person is in are all of a similar nature. You probably have asshats and troublemakers in FIX but in no way would that make all of FIX asshats. Perspective is a wonderful thing. Quote: This is for you leaders if HF sort your members out, and for the rest of EVE beware before engaging 1v1 with huzzah, ever! Sh!tty that it happened ofcourse but surely not worth a whole thread? ********************************** Huzzah Federation
Velsharoon	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:29:00 - [43] respect to huzzah Need a new sig :/
gizli	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:44:00 - [44] Dont touch that rotation again. Love, Gizli
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:50:00 - [45] Edited by: Dao 2 on 14/04/2006 17:50:56 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Darpz thats not cool this is a subject I feel strongly about. I repeat not cool. Indeed. funny that u condemn but u let in DICE, when i offered 1v1's to atuk a bit less then half (which is still even more then f-e) didn't follow them, and theyd laugh at the end. edit: i will note this was when they were in 5 as atuk though not as DICE in bob. don't make a diff to me. though there is a few cool ppl from them. (surprised me) ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Kaeten	Posted - 2006.04.14 17:54:00 - [46] retards that dishouner 1v1's, lame... Second image removed, please only use one image in your signature - Petwraith :( ingameboard.asp?a=topi
smallgreenblur	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:15:00 - [47] 1v1s are one of the things i feel most strongly about in this game, and it saddens me every time i see them broken for a cheap kill. My new-found respect for huzzah has been greatly lessened from hearing about this incident. Originally by: Hans Roaming Yeah this is not cool at all you have the Federations official appology and we've already paid you your 13mil loss on your ship and equipment. The alliance does not condone this behavior in its members. On the other hand, much kudos to Hans for his quick and honerable reaction to this. I hope the incident was an isolated one and will not be repeated. There are few things worse than going back on your word in an online environment where it is often all you have. sgb C6 is recruiting ... visit www.c6-eve.com or join channel c-6 for details.
Revek M	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:19:00 - [48] Originally by: Kaeten retards that dishouner 1v1's, lame... retards that ask for 1v1s in hostile space, ******* stupid...
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:25:00 - [49] Originally by: Revek M Originally by: Kaeten retards that dishouner 1v1's, lame... retards that ask for 1v1s in hostile space, ******* stupid... you have no idea about the honour behind 1v1s. sadly, neither does most of eve these days ______________________________________________________ Account Cancelled
Macjac	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:26:00 - [50] Originally by: Revek M Originally by: Kaeten retards that dishouner 1v1's, lame... retards that ask for 1v1s in hostile space, ******* stupid... Those who commin up with these replies, seriously seems like you have no code of honor. 1v1 is 1v1, no matter where it is, after all where else are you gonna meet hostiles to kill and to even get the chance to ask for 1v1, either they in your space, or your in thiers. Get a brain plz. Sure sometimes u can meet in neutral space or in empire, tho this does not happen often. Reality can be beaten with enough imagination...
DarkZaion	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:26:00 - [51] i love my 1 vs 1, i never got one where the rules where broken. not cool. nothing much else to say.
xenorx	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:27:00 - [52] Originally by: gizli WTF is that!? That is just about as offensive to me as it can get. No one can hear you scream in space, so STFU and die already.
Zysco	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:32:00 - [53] No offense, but you are a tard for telling where you are gonna 1v1 like that in a local full of hostiles. You want to 1v1, form a gang with the guy and gangwarp to a safe. New Petition Inc Vid
Mindlles	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:43:00 - [54] Originally by: Zysco No offense, but you are a tard for telling where you are gonna 1v1 like that in a local full of hostiles. You want to 1v1, form a gang with the guy and gangwarp to a safe. U have a point in that drunken, Problem with huzza is that if u do that, he warp u to their Pos. They tryed that, / or get u to warp to it. well atleast tryed it... _____________________________________________
Rhobin	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:44:00 - [55] Originally by: Macjac Get a brain plz. This coming from the guy that expects not to get ganked in an enemy homesystem? All your talk about honor is nothing but a cover for either arrogance or stupidity.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:45:00 - [56] Originally by: Rhobin Originally by: Macjac Get a brain plz. This coming from the guy that expects not to get ganked in an enemy homesystem? All your talk about honor is nothing but a cover for either arrogance or stupidity. another clueless idiot. ______________________________________________________ Account Cancelled
Iberi	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:46:00 - [57] Poor, small FIX, BOBs puppet. (Now is beaten by Huzzah). BOB, please, support your puppet...
Horza Otho	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:46:00 - [58] this is a very strong subject imo, 1v1's shud always be honored and i am very dissapointed with what happened myself, i know macjac always honors 1v1's and its a shame he had to be cheeted this way
Zysco	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:48:00 - [59] Edited by: Zysco on 14/04/2006 18:49:17 Originally by: Mindlles Originally by: Zysco No offense, but you are a tard for telling where you are gonna 1v1 like that in a local full of hostiles. You want to 1v1, form a gang with the guy and gangwarp to a safe. U have a point in that drunken, Problem with huzza is that if u do that, he warp u to their Pos. They tryed that, / or get u to warp to it. well atleast tryed it... Yes, but thats the chance you have to take. If that happens, its the guy you are "1v1" who is dishonoring the 1v1, not some random guy. If you look at the time on the logs: [ 2006.04.14 14:33:58 ] Xuxxina > Ill duel you [ 2006.04.14 14:34:14 ] Macjac > me? [ 2006.04.14 14:34:18 ] Xuxxina > yes [ 2006.04.14 14:34:28 ] Macjac > everyone in local agree not to interfere? [ 2006.04.14 14:34:41 ] Spanjab > k [ 2006.04.14 14:34:43 ] carcinos > likewise [ 2006.04.14 14:34:45 ] Notius Maximus > sure [ 2006.04.14 14:34:48 ] Macjac > undocking [ 2006.04.14 14:35:08 ] Macjac > we go to planet 1 ok? Lets say I was in Huzzah. I could have logged on at 14:35, seen some **** in local about planet 1 and decided to go there. I logged on after the duel is "agreed" to. I see a hostile at the planet engaging an alliance mate, so i kill him. Not saying this is what happened here, but it just shows why its so retarded to ask/accept 1v1s in a full local, and 1v1ing at a place anyone can warp to. New Petition Inc Vid
Kalil d'Maelstromo	Posted - 2006.04.14 18:59:00 - [60] Originally by: Mindlles Originally by: Zysco No offense, but you are a tard for telling where you are gonna 1v1 like that in a local full of hostiles. You want to 1v1, form a gang with the guy and gangwarp to a safe. U have a point in that drunken, Problem with huzza is that if u do that, he warp u to their Pos. They tryed that, / or get u to warp to it. well atleast tryed it... Crass generalisations 4tl. Oh and sometimes Huzzah POS's shoot Huzzah Tbh it shouldn't have mattered that the duel occured outside the station, even with all and sundry watching. However the possibility of someone entering the system after the fight was arranged and warping to station only to see and fire on a player flashing red cannot be discounted. Im not saying that thats what happened rather that a planet would disallow that possibility. ********************************** Huzzah Federation
Yokohead	Posted - 2006.04.14 19:08:00 - [61] It was one of those unfortunate incidents of war. From the local log, it was obvious that what occured wasn't supposed to happen, nor was it condoned by a large majority of the HUZZAH pilots present in the system. 3 separate HUZZAH heads have stepped forward to offer their personal apologies, as well as reimburse for the ship, not because they're 'rolling over', but because it was the right thing to do in this situation. Not many entities in the EVE universe hold their honor so high, HUZZAH's actions ought to be applauded, one pilot does not make an alliance. sweeps his hat off Besides, Ars C rules! =) ----- Yoko's First Law: "For every action there is a greater* and opposite reaction.*"
Rhobin	Posted - 2006.04.14 19:22:00 - [62] Originally by: Sarmaul another clueless idiot. Another whiny tool.
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2006.04.14 19:57:00 - [63] ?[ 2006.04.14 14:41:55 ] Rez74 > please don't swear in our system HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!! //Rec ------------- ? Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39 We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
xenorx	Posted - 2006.04.14 20:01:00 - [64] Well it looks like it was an unfortunate incident. It appears to have been addressed to the satisfation of both parties. As Huzzah have a lot of new members that from what I hear are still a bit wet behind the ears in PvP it is not surprising this kind of thing happened. On the positive side, it's an opportunity to teach some of those newer players what is considered acceptable behavior in these situations. Clearly xuxxina agreed to the 1v1 and several of his corpmates agreed to the terms. Granted, Notius Maximus agreed and was on the kill mail. Considering it was a drone listed on the kill mail from Notius Im inclined to believe it was accidental. We all know that drones tend to do their own thing whether we like it or not. In the future park those things so they dont go running wild. On the other hand Buadyen & Tessa Vaako should be taken out behind the station and thrashed for unsportsman like conduct. They are in the same corp as xuxxina and have no excuse. If your corpmate agrees to a 1v1 you stand by and enjoy the show. You badly dishonor yourselves & your whole corp acting like that. You cant claim that your local was bugged and you didnt know because your corp channel was working just fine. Justin Marr, was not in the same corp and was not local bugged either. He just wasnt paying attention. From reading the chat log he realized it after the fact and was clearly sorry. Deserves 30 lashess with the wet noodle for daydreaming on the job. No one can hear you scream in space, so STFU and die already.
Isonkon Serikain	Posted - 2006.04.14 20:11:00 - [65] every alliance has bungholes... Ison's notches
Adrianus	Posted - 2006.04.14 20:12:00 - [66] Edited by: Adrianus on 14/04/2006 20:12:36 Originally by: xenorx On the other hand Buadyen & Tessa Vaako should be taken out behind the station and thrashed for unsportsman like conduct Read Tessa's post earlier in this thread. Originally by: xenorx Deserves 30 lashess with the wet noodle for daydreaming on the job. Wait... xenorx is now in charge of Huzzah's internal discipline? I must have missed an alliance mail.
Angelus X	Posted - 2006.04.14 20:16:00 - [67] Props to Hans for sorting this out. Although i'm a big fan of 1on1's and very against people who dishonour them... I do think convincing a potential 1on1 opponent to gang up and warp to you while your at a fully armed POS very funny. ----- Angelus X - Meatshield
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2006.04.14 20:22:00 - [68] Originally by: Angelus X I do think convincing a potential 1on1 opponent to gang up and warp to you while your at a fully armed POS very funny. Well, atleast that dosent make you a liar or a lamer. He gets his 1vs1..him against a POS //Rec ----------- Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39 We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
Adrianus	Posted - 2006.04.14 20:27:00 - [69] "It was a 1v1! I was using an Amarr Control Tower as my ship!"
xenorx	Posted - 2006.04.14 20:36:00 - [70] Originally by: Adrianus Edited by: Adrianus on 14/04/2006 20:12:36 Originally by: xenorx On the other hand Buadyen & Tessa Vaako should be taken out behind the station and thrashed for unsportsman like conduct Read Tessa's post earlier in this thread. Originally by: xenorx Deserves 30 lashess with the wet noodle for daydreaming on the job. Wait... xenorx is now in charge of Huzzah's internal discipline? I must have missed an alliance mail. Ah sorry, missed Tessa's post. My bad. Nope neither xenorx or Father Callahan would be very good at that job. On the other hand the third character on my account just might be in charge of Huzzah's internal discipline! You just can never tell about these things. No one can hear you scream in space, so STFU and die already.
Zrevak Ashek	Posted - 2006.04.14 20:49:00 - [71] Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 14/04/2006 20:50:24 Huzzah has been at war with numerous entities since its conception, and have allways been known to honour any 1 vs 1. Period. This latest event is unfortunate, apologies have been given and the "victim" has been more than reimbursed for his loss by Huzzah. Huzzah is known for its honourable qualities throughout Eve. I deem the original poster to be a person whom real agenda is to discredit Huzzah as a whole, knowing full well it was more than likely to be an isolated incident involving a bunch of new players to Eve. You, nor your allies will ever be able to break the spirit of Huzzah. Your lies and attempt at deceit will backfire in the end.
Tran Duma	Posted - 2006.04.14 20:56:00 - [72] . [ 2006.04.14 14:43:10 ] Macjac > ill be posting this on eve-o let the world know how honorable u are. And ofcorse how honorable it is to post this on the forrums.smels like political alliance stuff.You did know that this would happen to you in your maller . maller maller ? a maller no hac no bs no AF ...a maller. Quote: null Quote: [ 2006.04.14 14:43:10 ] Macjac > ill be posting this on eve-o let the world know how honorable u are.
Wierd Beard	Posted - 2006.04.14 22:17:00 - [73] Originally by: Tran Duma . [ 2006.04.14 14:43:10 ] Macjac > ill be posting this on eve-o let the world know how honorable u are. And ofcorse how honorable it is to post this on the forrums.smels like political alliance stuff.You did know that this would happen to you in your maller . maller maller ? a maller no hac no bs no AF ...a maller. Quote: null Quote: [ 2006.04.14 14:43:10 ] Macjac > ill be posting this on eve-o let the world know how honorable u are. Actually...if I had to take a wild guess. I'd assume the reason he posted was that we was rather peeved. Props to Hans for being an honorable cat and handling the situation promptly. End of Story. Nighty night. Wierd FIX JCoS
Happysin	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:21:00 - [74] I'm glad this was sorted out to satisfaction. A personal word of warning: As we are obvously pursuing active hostilities with FIX, I will not honor 1v1 in V2. Period. I'm sorry if you feel this is dishororable, but you are talking about a huge tactical leak by allowing a foe just hang out in such a critical system. If you truly want to duel, agree to meet a system or two out. At least there, there's no excuse. So good luck, good hunting, and don't ever come into V2 "to duel".
Achcal	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:22:00 - [75] Edited by: Achcal on 14/04/2006 23:23:14 Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 14/04/2006 20:50:24 Your lies and attempt at deceit will backfire in the end. Oh please, shut up. I posted not one lie. Originally by: Tran Duma . [ 2006.04.14 14:43:10 ] Macjac > ill be posting this on eve-o let the world know how honorable u are. And ofcorse how honorable it is to post this on the forrums.smels like political alliance stuff.You did know that this would happen to you in your maller . maller maller ? a maller no hac no bs no AF ...a maller. You've missed the point sunshine, it does not matter if it is a t1 frig or a t2 fitted bs.
Macjac	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:24:00 - [76] Whoops, thats my alt there, misclick Reality can be beaten with enough imagination...
Azeroth Uluntil	Posted - 2006.04.15 03:46:00 - [77] Maller got owned by a Rupture and Thorax... Wow. Unless they had ewar, you need to find a ship you are better with. On topic... jackasses like this should be slaughtered over and over again. :-)
Audrea	Posted - 2006.04.15 04:06:00 - [78] guys such incidents happen, I hope nobody looses respect to our 1v1's. I know few ppl in FIX who are honorable, and it was fun fighting 1v1's even in station system like FAT. Thats said, stating the location of the fight in local was.. stupid aspointed out, someone could log in back in space, see that sentence, and warp there. Any 1v1 should be agreed on convo always. Hope to see some good 1v1s in the future, even in our core systems ---------------------------------------------- All my posts are my own opinions and dont not represent any organization until stated otherwise.
Zhon	Posted - 2006.04.15 06:44:00 - [79] Originally by: Macjac Originally by: Revek M Originally by: Kaeten retards that dishouner 1v1's, lame... retards that ask for 1v1s in hostile space, ******* stupid... Those who commin up with these replies, seriously seems like you have no code of honor. 1v1 is 1v1, no matter where it is, after all where else are you gonna meet hostiles to kill and to even get the chance to ask for 1v1, either they in your space, or your in thiers. Get a brain plz. Sure sometimes u can meet in neutral space or in empire, tho this does not happen often. make as SS next time. gang up and engage. ---------
Sae Marr	Posted - 2006.04.15 07:18:00 - [80] I see a lot of people throwing the word honorable around without having the slightest idea as to what it means . I never had a problem in a 1 on 1 with a HF member before, it's most unfortunate that a few bad seeds taint your reputation, and even sadder is the fact that a lot of HF members seem to think it was perfectly OK. Props to Hans for sorting this out, though.
magickangaroo	Posted - 2006.04.15 07:30:00 - [81] Edited by: magickangaroo on 15/04/2006 07:30:29 Originally by: Edoo Fair enough the guy who engaged you is a **, but you are completely wrong to judge Huzzah all as cheaters when they blatently condemn it in local here. yea, its kinda like thinking all u occ are backstabin, ** talking idiots just because 95% of you are really. (GAL11) Brigadier General yay
Corsair Thunder	Posted - 2006.04.15 09:43:00 - [82] Originally by: magickangaroo Edited by: magickangaroo on 15/04/2006 07:30:29 Originally by: Edoo Fair enough the guy who engaged you is a **, but you are completely wrong to judge Huzzah all as cheaters when they blatently condemn it in local here. yea, its kinda like thinking all u occ are backstabin, ** talking idiots just because 95% of you are really. Woah, god that was quick, page 3 and BoB forum warriors already smacking. Seriously guys, do you just watch these forums and not bother to play eve? -----------------------------------------------
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.04.15 09:55:00 - [83] Originally by: Sae Marr I never had a problem in a 1 on 1 with a HF member before, it's most unfortunate that a few bad seeds taint your reputation, and even sadder is the fact that a lot of HF members seem to think it was perfectly OK. They are in the re-education camps as we speak. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
R31D	Posted - 2006.04.15 10:50:00 - [84] Edited by: R31D on 15/04/2006 10:51:24 I'm kind of ashamed I was in HUZZAH at one point. Who lives in 0.0 without local open? If they do then looks like there'll be a fair few people raiding HUZZAH space soon edit: props to hans for sorting it out Free bumpage for all
KamikazeHamster	Posted - 2006.04.15 10:53:00 - [85] Originally by: Corsair Thunder Originally by: magickangaroo Edited by: magickangaroo on 15/04/2006 07:30:29 Originally by: Edoo Fair enough the guy who engaged you is a **, but you are completely wrong to judge Huzzah all as cheaters when they blatently condemn it in local here. yea, its kinda like thinking all u occ are backstabin, ** talking idiots just because 95% of you are really. Woah, god that was quick, page 3 and BoB forum warriors already smacking. Seriously guys, do you just watch these forums and not bother to play eve? Seriously mate, do you just stay docked and not bother to play eve?
Naxie	Posted - 2006.04.15 11:55:00 - [86] To me, this whole thread seems ridiculous. 1v1's should be honoured yes, but when in 0.0 there can be lots of different chat windows going on and you can't be upto date on the convo's in all of them. Huzzah and FIX are at war, a FIX player docked at the Huzzah HQ shouldn't really be able to cry over spilt milk when he tries to undock and finds Alliance ships around. (especially their HQ)! Just seems crazy to me.
Soros	Posted - 2006.04.15 12:00:00 - [87] I remember once when we jumped into pilots from the oldschool curse alliance in somewhere like p-z, we lost the battle, but both sides agreed to bring the same ammount of ships, and jump and warp to the gate at exactly the same time, Was one of the most intense battles i've ever had, sticking to your word and fighting fair, its a whole lotta fun 1vs1 ftw, all though huzzah dnt seem to think so, /me pets my vexor and arbi
Macjac	Posted - 2006.04.15 12:43:00 - [88] Edited by: Macjac on 15/04/2006 12:44:25 Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil Maller got owned by a Rupture and Thorax... Wow. Unless they had ewar, you need to find a ship you are better with. On topic... jackasses like this should be slaughtered over and over again. :-) Hello Genius, look at the fix KB it wasnt just them 2, i didnt post the whole mail it was too long for forums. People with an IQ as low as yours should'nt be allowed to post on forums either, but hell nothing is fair eh? Reality can be beaten with enough imagination...
Turix	Posted - 2006.04.15 12:49:00 - [89] And them breaking 1v1 is bad yes i know, and it appeared to have been solved. But tbh convo spamming someone to give you time to line a covert up on them and kill them is worse.... But i lived and wont make a fuss of it, its done solved. Just thought id make that clear, if your gunna accuse someone of being dishonorable check your own back first. My Videos
Kalil d'Maelstromo	Posted - 2006.04.15 12:56:00 - [90] Originally by: Naxie To me, this whole thread seems ridiculous. Well its not your Alliance getting tarred with the same brush eh? Originally by: Naxie 1v1's should be honoured yes, but when in 0.0 there can be lots of different chat windows going on and you can't be upto date on the convo's in all of them. If you go into 0.0 please, pretty please seperate and pin your local window. You dont often need to read loca. Most of the time its a waste of a chat window, but you have it open so you can see if the enemy is in system with you. I'm pretty sure most people who have played for a long enough to be immersed in an alliance have a multitude of windows open at any given time. Originally by: Naxie Huzzah and FIX are at war, a FIX player docked at the Huzzah HQ shouldn't really be able to cry over spilt milk when he tries to undock and finds Alliance ships around. (especially their HQ)! Just seems crazy to me. Seems crazy that a player from an alliance we have at -10 can dock but I'm not sure that was actually the case. ********************************** Huzzah Federation
nickycakes	Posted - 2006.04.15 13:00:00 - [91] Originally by: Kalil d'Maelstromo Seems crazy that a player from an alliance we have at -10 can dock but I'm not sure that was actually the case. meh i have an alt docked there now Fryin' More Eggs Than Dennys
Kalil d'Maelstromo	Posted - 2006.04.15 13:15:00 - [92] Your taranis will always be +5 to me sweets ********************************** Huzzah Federation
Macjac	Posted - 2006.04.15 19:53:00 - [93] Originally by: Turix And them breaking 1v1 is bad yes i know, and it appeared to have been solved. But tbh convo spamming someone to give you time to line a covert up on them and kill them is worse.... But i lived and wont make a fuss of it, its done solved. Just thought id make that clear, if your gunna accuse someone of being dishonorable check your own back first. I was actually against that, and did not do it. When those convo's came up i assure you none was from me or my corp. Reality can be beaten with enough imagination...
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.15 20:28:00 - [94] Originally by: Hans Roaming Yeah this is not cool at all you have the Federations official appology and we've already paid you your 13mil loss on your ship and equipment. The alliance does not condone this behavior in its members. Respect. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.04.15 21:19:00 - [95] Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil Maller got owned by a Rupture and Thorax... Wow. Unless they had ewar, you need to find a ship you are better with. On topic... jackasses like this should be slaughtered over and over again. :-) I didn't realise fate had lowered their recruitment standards. a single rupture can easily take out a maller, rupture + thorax is just unfair tbh. ______________________________________________________ Account Cancelled
Zhartan	Posted - 2006.04.15 23:50:00 - [96] Edited by: Zhartan on 15/04/2006 23:51:26 Ars Caelestis has no honor--the killmail of that guy is entirely Ars Caelestis with no other Huzzah components. That corp should be either kicked out of Huzzah or fined heavily. I've heard from Huzzah members that this is not the first time Ars Caelestis has done dishonorable things.
Happysin	Posted - 2006.04.15 23:56:00 - [97] you come in here with an alt and you dare talk about honor? Originally by: Zhartan Edited by: Zhartan on 15/04/2006 23:51:26 Ars Caelestis has no honor--the killmail of that guy is entirely Ars Caelestis with no other Huzzah components. That corp should be either kicked out of Huzzah or fined heavily. I've heard from Huzzah members that this is not the first time Ars Caelestis has done dishonorable things.
Turix	Posted - 2006.04.16 00:01:00 - [98] Originally by: Macjac Originally by: Turix And them breaking 1v1 is bad yes i know, and it appeared to have been solved. But tbh convo spamming someone to give you time to line a covert up on them and kill them is worse.... But i lived and wont make a fuss of it, its done solved. Just thought id make that clear, if your gunna accuse someone of being dishonorable check your own back first. I was actually against that, and did not do it. When those convo's came up i assure you none was from me or my corp. Ye, im totally happy thats been sorted, and as i said i dont want to make any fuss about it. It was simply an example, HF leadership dont like the 1v1 being broken, Fix leadership doesnt like the convo spamming Why dont we all be nice eh My Videos
Tarphon	Posted - 2006.04.16 00:54:00 - [99] Originally by: Hans Roaming Yeah this is not cool at all you have the Federations official appology and we've already paid you your 13mil loss on your ship and equipment. The alliance does not condone this behavior in its members. Respect for the quick handling of this, signs of a great leader Hans Originally by: Achilles Thorongmor Edited by: Achilles Thorongmor on 14/04/2006 17:03:03 Buadyen and Notius are my pilots. I will take care of this. Look for another payout for your ship and equipment from them. snip Once again, I apologize and will handle my pilot as well as reimburse you again for your loss. Achilles Thorongmor CEO, Ars Caelestis Vice President, Huzzah HAF Fleet Commander A leader should know when to back up his pilots and when to stand with them when they are wrong. Good job Achilles I gained respect for the prompt and curtious handling of this situation. The Huzzah Federation seams to have good leaders in you both.
Kalil d'Maelstromo	Posted - 2006.04.16 01:15:00 - [100] Originally by: Zhartan Edited by: Zhartan on 15/04/2006 23:51:26 Ars Caelestis has no honor--the killmail of that guy is entirely Ars Caelestis with no other Huzzah components. That corp should be either kicked out of Huzzah or fined heavily. I've heard from Huzzah members that this is not the first time Ars Caelestis has done dishonorable things. Kalil waves to Blackhorizon Ever think there was a reason I ignored your application to THEBB and why you wont be accepted to a HF corp? (Hint: Its cos you acted like a child by spamming applications) Who said that? *********************** Originally by:** Deb Loblaw Anybody who demands a reach around is just a greedy bastich, if you ask me. If you wanted satisfaction, you should have been on top. Huzzah
MinTol	Posted - 2006.04.16 01:43:00 - [101] Originally by: Macjac [ 2006.04.14 14:40:43 ] Macjac > ****in no honor at all in ur whole alliance Am I the only one that see's something wrong with that? .. 1 Huzzah member that didnt even agree to honor that 1v1 acted un-honorable and he says that the entire alliance is unhonorable. Yeah sure, whine about how lame the player is but don't judge the alliance based on the actions of 1 pilot.
Marko Debreault	Posted - 2006.04.16 04:01:00 - [102] It's good that Hans reimbursed macjac, but if Huzzah is serious about being an entity with integrity, they need to take some action against the fellows who cheated. Make an example of them.
NAFnist	Posted - 2006.04.16 05:12:00 - [103] Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil Maller got owned by a Rupture and Thorax... Wow. Unless they had ewar, you need to find a ship you are better with. lol, here's a penny, go buy a clue.
Vehestian	Posted - 2006.04.16 08:29:00 - [104] Can't say that a fussed up 1v1 is ever any fun. Sorry to hear. Ask anyone from Killson next time, do a gang, etc etc, should be spotless and no podding unless requested =D Hell, we'll even scout the station for you , at least i know i would. So please, do not accuse all of HF for being lying nubtard griefer-gankers with no 'honor'. Props to the Leaf! -V
mattzz	Posted - 2006.04.16 10:55:00 - [105] Originally by: Zhartan Edited by: Zhartan on 15/04/2006 23:51:26 Ars Caelestis has no honor--the killmail of that guy is entirely Ars Caelestis with no other Huzzah components. That corp should be either kicked out of Huzzah or fined heavily. I've heard from Huzzah members that this is not the first time Ars Caelestis has done dishonorable things. You're wrong, I used to be in ArsC and this must have been a mistake as they'd never cheat on a 1v1. They're probably the most honourable corp I know. Currently recruiting!
Angelus X	Posted - 2006.04.16 13:49:00 - [106] Originally by: Sarmaul I didn't realise fate had lowered their recruitment standards. a single rupture can easily take out a maller, rupture + thorax is just unfair tbh. Fate. Standards ----- Angelus X - Meatshield
Kaeten	Posted - 2006.04.16 15:28:00 - [107] Originally by: Revek M Originally by: Kaeten retards that dishouner 1v1's, lame... retards that ask for 1v1s in hostile space, ******* stupid... ehh if the guy doesnt want a 1v1 he could of said no, agreeing to a 1v1 then dishounering one just shows how pathetic they are at finding/killing targets. Second image removed, please only use one image in your signature - Petwraith :( ingameboard.asp?a=topi
MinTol	Posted - 2006.04.16 16:14:00 - [108] Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Revek M Originally by: Kaeten retards that dishouner 1v1's, lame... retards that ask for 1v1s in hostile space, ******* stupid... ehh if the guy doesnt want a 1v1 he could of said no, agreeing to a 1v1 then dishounering one just shows how pathetic they are at finding/killing targets. The one that dishonored it never agreed to the 1on1.
Oreh Anavrin	Posted - 2006.04.16 17:14:00 - [109] WHICH, Mintol, does not make it right for him to do (before we get more flames ). But yes, the guy didn't agree to a 1v1 and then gank him along with some other people as soon as he docked, I think you need to re-read. Anyway, the issue has been solved, the people reprimanded and the debt repayed multiple times, I believe this thread has run its course and can now be left to die.
MinTol	Posted - 2006.04.16 18:37:00 - [110] Originally by: Oreh Anavrin WHICH, Mintol, does not make it right for him to do (before we get more flames ). But yes, the guy didn't agree to a 1v1 and then gank him along with some other people as soon as he docked, I think you need to re-read. Anyway, the issue has been solved, the people reprimanded and the debt repayed multiple times, I believe this thread has run its course and can now be left to die. Yes i know, he probably wasnt reading local saw an enemy undock and decided to attack .. then he checked local to see if his victim was whining about being ganked or something and saw that they had agreed to a 1on1. What i feel like is unfair for Huzzah is that he's judging the whole alliance because of one incident, that involved 1(!!) pilot that might not even have known about the 1on1.
Macjac	Posted - 2006.04.16 18:46:00 - [111] MinTol, please get a clue. First what u state has already be answered earlier in this thread, secondly if u even read the first post you'd have gone and looked at the KB and saw it wasnt just one pilot. So just stop posting here, there is no need for this to be dragged out anymore everything is resolved. PS: I was docked yes, undocked and the incident happened. I disengaged in an attempt to dock back, guess what? Access denied. The standings had been changed, which is prefectly acceptable, I should not be allowed to dock there anyway, but it shows some authority was in knowledge of this and let is happen still. Anyway lets just end it. Reality can be beaten with enough imagination...
eddie valvetino	Posted - 2006.04.24 11:15:00 - [112] aye - it sucks but if you're at war with someone - what do you expect? it's hurts, get over it... trust no-one my 2 isk (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
Sharcy	Posted - 2006.04.24 11:35:00 - [113] Originally by: eddie valvetino but if you're at war with someone - what do you expect? That was my first thought too reading this for the first time today, but then I realized this happened before the official wardec -- Sonnema is recruiting!
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.04.24 11:50:00 - [114] Just to clarify Huzzah has been at war with FIX since the 8th, as we're both 0.0 alliances then until recently no one has bothered with a concord war. Anyway I believe this thread is starting to chase people whilst shouting out 'brains' and so I suggest we give it some last rights and lay it to rest. President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Kinsy	Posted - 2006.04.24 12:40:00 - [115] Originally by: Vehestian Can't say that a fussed up 1v1 is ever any fun. Sorry to hear. Ask anyone from Killson next time, do a gang, etc etc, should be spotless and no podding unless requested =D Hell, we'll even scout the station for you , at least i know i would. So please, do not accuse all of HF for being lying nubtard griefer-gankers with no 'honor'. Props to the Leaf! -V Obi-Kins has taught you well Hans does a better job as alliance leader than anyone ive ever seen, id like to see anyone turn around, accept responsibility for their members actions, and reimburse to the players satisfaction so fast.

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