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culo duro
EveryoneVersusEveryone.com
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:31:00 -
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Op, if you insist on using a scan inhibitor... rename your dread. :P Do you want to learn how to pvp? Take a look at www.everyoneversuseveryone.com (Heavily WIP) |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9092
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:58:00 -
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Cassia Aetius wrote:But you already know you're an idiot for spending 100's of dollars on internet space money The idiot is probably the person spending 100s of dollars worth of their time just so they can make enough to keep playing the game when they could actually be doing fun things instead. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
531
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:50:00 -
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Imho, running an alt in a zephyr 55k up into the guardian spawn while running sites solo is not really *dividing your income by twelve*.
Also, it saves you the pain of interacting with incursion-people, which alone is a major upside. "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2302
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:01:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:why is it divided by 12?
And you don't need a scout its just recommended!
Sorry, I read that as 11 Dreads, not one dread at 11K DPS. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Your Dad Naked
State War Academy Caldari State
136
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:19:00 -
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Tsobai Hashimoto wrote:/yawn
No offense but a solo bomber in fw can churn out 200 mil isk an hour. Not risk a 2b + ship in null or wh space and use RFF to easily move all goods to any trade hub for about 8m isk
If you duel box bombers you still are not risking more than 100m total in assets and churn out closer to 500m an hour by pretty much instant popping mission rats after decloak
Those numbers are lies. I tried FW, you cannot do those sites that earn you such profits without being interuppted every damn second by other players trying to kill you. To claim this is less risk is ridiculous. Beyond that you can't make that kind of ISK with 1 player. Not close, no matter what people claim. Evidence or it's impossible.
baltec1 wrote:So its 300 mil/hr. Not sure how you came to that math, seems he made 120mil in under 15 minutes. Even if so, 300mil/hr is still a hefty amount for a solo pilot.
Cyndrogen wrote:really?
I have an even easier method, no dreadnaught needed.
I pay $14 dollars for a plex. I get 600 million ISK in Jita. I make 14 dollars in real life in less then an hour.
I win. You win at entering a thread and posting an irrelevant comment no one cares to hear about. So you win at being obnoxious, congrats!
Bernie Nator wrote:For those of you that are smart enough not to throw a dread at an escalation in C5 space solo, just use a marauder instead. It can do the site with little issue and you'd only be risking a marauder instead of a moros/revelation/nag.
I wonder if there's an entire community devoted to wormholes.
...Nah, that'd be silly. A Marauder would take how much longer to finish each given site? Would it even be able to tank it solo? A dread costs maybe 2.5x what the Marauder does. Over time, you should in theory make more ISK with the dread.
But nah, that'd be silly, making more ISK while doing PVE...
Victor Andall wrote:I can solo highsec combat sites in a 350 odd DPS Battlecruiser and get roughly 100 mil per hour if moderately lucky with almost zero risk.
Yawn. Congrats. Why do we care? Why are you telling us this? How is this related? |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
237
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:28:00 -
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You make 120mil in less then one siege cycle doing this properly. A siege cycle lasts 5 mins. But you have to warp off to refit back to damage before going to next site so I just estimated with warp times that it would take another 5 mins before landing in the next site. Estimated it at 10mins a site for 120mil when in actuality its probably closer to 7.5mins a site since most wh's are fairly small. Also this estimate includes using scan inhibs every site.
So in the end if your efficient and not in a massive wh then you can make even more then 600mil an hour. Could make closer to 800mil an hour Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Tsobai Hashimoto
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
204
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:48:00 -
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Your Dad Naked wrote:Tsobai Hashimoto wrote:/yawn
No offense but a solo bomber in fw can churn out 200 mil isk an hour. Not risk a 2b + ship in null or wh space and use RFF to easily move all goods to any trade hub for about 8m isk
If you duel box bombers you still are not risking more than 100m total in assets and churn out closer to 500m an hour by pretty much instant popping mission rats after decloak
Those numbers are lies. I tried FW, you cannot do those sites that earn you such profits without being interuppted every damn second by other players trying to kill you. To claim this is less risk is ridiculous. Beyond that you can't make that kind of ISK with 1 player. Not close, no matter what people claim. Evidence or it's impossible. baltec1 wrote:So its 300 mil/hr. Not sure how you came to that math, seems he made 120mil in under 15 minutes. Even if so, 300mil/hr is still a hefty amount for a solo pilot. Cyndrogen wrote:really?
I have an even easier method, no dreadnaught needed.
I pay $14 dollars for a plex. I get 600 million ISK in Jita. I make 14 dollars in real life in less then an hour.
I win. You win at entering a thread and posting an irrelevant comment no one cares to hear about. So you win at being obnoxious, congrats! Victor Andall wrote:I can solo highsec combat sites in a 350 odd DPS Battlecruiser and get roughly 100 mil per hour if moderately lucky with almost zero risk.
Yawn. Congrats. Why do we care? Why are you telling us this? How is this related?
I would have cleaned up the quotes but I'm on my phone. Pain in the ass. So sorry.
If you wish I will share my bomber fits with you. I do duel box but you can solo it. Its just easier since you can pick up more mission (and be more picky) and the extra DPs is nice for breaking tanks fast.
First off do not do missions when there are 400 people on each side. I do them after work late at night. I start around 2am my time and end by 4am. That's downtime for me.
Its completely dead. If you have a system with wt. Spawn up some normal fw plexs. Ooenning up your mission in between. If they are active they spend time dscaning / warping to plexs.
My last outing I took in 528k lp in two hours. I will sell a bit over half of that on quick moving items like ships at about 900-1k isk per lp....so say 320mill and I have 200k lp left..... The rest I have two items I can sell. Can move about 150k to 250k lp worth a week in jita. They earn 2k to 2750 isk per lp....let's just say 2k at 200k. That's 400m isk
I earned 720 mill isk in under two hours in bombers. That honestly is low end numbers.
I do 1 run a week. Maybe two.
I then **** this away flying DDs into caracals! FW ftw!l
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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
237
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:01:00 -
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Id be interested on you how do this. If its easier then dread ratting ill do that instead Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
116
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:12:00 -
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Your Dad Naked wrote:A Marauder would take how much longer to finish each given site? Would it even be able to tank it solo? A dread costs maybe 2.5x what the Marauder does. Over time, you should in theory make more ISK with the dread.
But nah, that'd be silly, making more ISK while doing PVE...
Actually a marauder hull is ~1b isk nowadays, meaning they're almost par for cost.
That said a marauder is going to have incredible issues doing enough damage. I don't know offhand if these two sites have RR but if they do a single marauder is worthless. There's a reason blap dreads are used in high-class wormholes. |
Cassia Aetius
Antumbra Corporation
19
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:29:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cassia Aetius wrote:But you already know you're an idiot for spending 100's of dollars on internet space money The idiot is probably the person spending 100s of dollars worth of their time just so they can make enough to keep playing the game when they could actually be doing fun things instead.
First of all, no one is spending "100s of dollars worth of their time" just to keep playing, most people just pay the 15 bucks a month, and those that don't can make 600mill easy.
Second, the part you quoted refers to people buying PLEX to sell for ISK which removes a big part of the game. That is what the discussion was about and not how long it takes for you to earn a PLEX. |
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Zack Korth
The Scope Gallente Federation
290
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:36:00 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:Cassia Aetius wrote:Sure mr. special, keep buying those plex, you're such a big man. Wow, that's the best you can come back with? Doesn't even make sense given the discussion at hand. Jealousy is an ugly thing... Grow up you clearly don't belong here, you're to stupid to even read correctly. Show me where I said I bought a PLEX? Not to mention the thousands of other people who do the same as I do. It's not my fault you got no money to do the same...and have to grind for paltry sums...
lol what a dousher |
Tysun Kane
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:39:00 -
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Good video. Any ISK making endeavor that allows you to make enough ISK to plex your account is worth seeing. |
Lucy tzung
Deep Strike Mining Divison
4
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:40:00 -
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Cyndrogen wrote:really?
I have an even easier method, no dreadnaught needed.
I pay $14 dollars for a plex. I get 600 million ISK in Jita. I make 14 dollars in real life in less then an hour.
I win. real life? now I remember! omg my family!! |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4002
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:55:00 -
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I just solo Jita. No fancy ships needed. Trading will help free you of the isk/hr thinking. Unless you wish to stay in the working class, of course. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1750
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:13:00 -
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Cyndrogen wrote:really?
I have an even easier method, no dreadnaught needed.
I pay $14 dollars for a plex. I get 600 million ISK in Jita. I make 14 dollars in real life in less then an hour.
I win. This only works because not everyone is doing it. If we switched the numbers of people playing EVE properly and those buying plex for a free leg up you'd likely have to work all day for a 600 million isk. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9096
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Posted - 2014.03.02 20:36:00 -
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Cassia Aetius wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cassia Aetius wrote:But you already know you're an idiot for spending 100's of dollars on internet space money The idiot is probably the person spending 100s of dollars worth of their time just so they can make enough to keep playing the game when they could actually be doing fun things instead. First of all, no one is spending " 100s of dollars worth of their time" just to keep playing, most people just pay the 15 bucks a month, and those that don't can make 600mill easy. Second, the part you quoted refers to people buying PLEX to sell for ISK which removes a big part of the game. That is what the discussion was about and not how long it takes for you to earn a PLEX. Congratulations for missing the point entirely. You should be thankful to those people who buy PLEX to sell on the market. If they didn't PLEX would be considerably more expensive than a mere 600 mill. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Cassia Aetius
Antumbra Corporation
21
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Posted - 2014.03.02 21:25:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cassia Aetius wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cassia Aetius wrote:But you already know you're an idiot for spending 100's of dollars on internet space money The idiot is probably the person spending 100s of dollars worth of their time just so they can make enough to keep playing the game when they could actually be doing fun things instead. First of all, no one is spending " 100s of dollars worth of their time" just to keep playing, most people just pay the 15 bucks a month, and those that don't can make 600mill easy. Second, the part you quoted refers to people buying PLEX to sell for ISK which removes a big part of the game. That is what the discussion was about and not how long it takes for you to earn a PLEX. Congratulations for missing the point entirely. You should be thankful to those people who buy PLEX to sell on the market. If they didn't PLEX would be considerably more expensive than a mere 600 mill.
Why would I be thankful of people who buy PLEX? I couldn't care less what the price of a PLEX is.
Point still stands, if one buys PLEX to sell for ISK that person is removing a big part of the game. Same with any game in which you can buy currency.
There's nothing to discuss really, it's just that all who do buy PLEX took offense in my opinion, which is their problem, not mine.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9096
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Posted - 2014.03.02 22:05:00 -
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Cassia Aetius wrote:Point still stands, if one buys PLEX to sell for ISK that person is removing a big part of the game. You haven't actually elaborated on how.
Cassia Aetius wrote:Same with any game in which you can buy currency. Well you can't buy ISK. You can buy something you can sell for ISK. That's something different entirely. Your return on this purchase is entirely dependent on how much people value this item. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
369
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Posted - 2014.03.02 22:26:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cassia Aetius wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cassia Aetius wrote:But you already know you're an idiot for spending 100's of dollars on internet space money The idiot is probably the person spending 100s of dollars worth of their time just so they can make enough to keep playing the game when they could actually be doing fun things instead. First of all, no one is spending " 100s of dollars worth of their time" just to keep playing, most people just pay the 15 bucks a month, and those that don't can make 600mill easy. Second, the part you quoted refers to people buying PLEX to sell for ISK which removes a big part of the game. That is what the discussion was about and not how long it takes for you to earn a PLEX. Congratulations for missing the point entirely. You should be thankful to those people who buy PLEX to sell on the market. If they didn't PLEX would be considerably more expensive than a mere 600 mill.
Maybe ... but we all know CCP occasionally buy up PLEX when prices drop to fast and then dump the same PLEX along with any they picked up from banned accounts back on the market when PLEX start to rise to quickly.
Admittedly they are not creating PLEX out of thin air, but still the PLEX market is not a "free" market in the neo lib sense. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
118
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Posted - 2014.03.02 22:27:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:You should be thankful to those people who
No.
Just, no.
No player is in any debt of gratitude to any other player for "how they play the game". |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9096
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Posted - 2014.03.02 22:32:00 -
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That's an interesting perspective. Fortunately not everyone is completely antisocial and hides away in NPC corps. Just think about how awful this game would be if they did. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
118
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Posted - 2014.03.02 22:39:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:That's an interesting perspective. Fortunately not everyone is completely antisocial and hides away in NPC corps. Just think about how awful this game would be if they did.
Consider if everyone assumed that your first ever EVE character who happens to be in an a NPC Corp is considered to be "hiding" and "antisocial" there while they learn the ropes and keep an eye out for a Corp they might like to join.
Consider that it would not be considered antisocial to not be grateful to completely random and unassociated people who happen to be playing the game as they want (plex or not), with absolutely no bearing on you, and whom are making absolutely no sacrifice or action that you in any way shape or form need or should be grateful of, because they are doing it in their own best interest and of their own recognizance.
Consider stopping posting.
I dont owe you, or anyone else in this game, anything. Nor you to me, or anyone else to me.
However, if you really are so grateful to people who have bought PLEX, then by all means, feel free to express that gratefulness to me by making me an ISK donation.
Oh? Your gratefulness doesn't extend to action? Just talk? Not really worth much then, is it. |
Obunagawe
325
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Posted - 2014.03.02 22:40:00 -
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Cassia Aetius wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cassia Aetius wrote:But you already know you're an idiot for spending 100's of dollars on internet space money The idiot is probably the person spending 100s of dollars worth of their time just so they can make enough to keep playing the game when they could actually be doing fun things instead. First of all, no one is spending " 100s of dollars worth of their time" just to keep playing, most people just pay the 15 bucks a month, and those that don't can make 600mill easy. Second, the part you quoted refers to people buying PLEX to sell for ISK which removes a big part of the game. That is what the discussion was about and not how long it takes for you to earn a PLEX.
The real idiots are the ones who think they're the **** because they can afford to sub using PLEX but belittle the people who buy PLEX with RL cash in order to enjoy the game. They don't seem to realise that without those people, PLEX would be far more expensive than they could ever afford. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
370
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Posted - 2014.03.02 22:50:00 -
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Obunagawe wrote:Cassia Aetius wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cassia Aetius wrote:But you already know you're an idiot for spending 100's of dollars on internet space money The idiot is probably the person spending 100s of dollars worth of their time just so they can make enough to keep playing the game when they could actually be doing fun things instead. First of all, no one is spending " 100s of dollars worth of their time" just to keep playing, most people just pay the 15 bucks a month, and those that don't can make 600mill easy. Second, the part you quoted refers to people buying PLEX to sell for ISK which removes a big part of the game. That is what the discussion was about and not how long it takes for you to earn a PLEX. The real idiots are the ones who think they're the **** because they can afford to sub using PLEX but belittle the people who buy PLEX with RL cash in order to enjoy the game. They don't seem to realise that without those people, PLEX would be far more expensive than they could ever afford. CCP's market manipulations are solely to prevent detrimental effects to the "PLEX flow" caused by spikes in supply or demand. The CCP-injected PLEX does not and will not exist as a way to provide PLEX to all the "play-for-free" people if the "PLEX buyers" ever stop buying PLEX for RL cash.
It is pretty simple really.
- Casual/weekend players are better off paying subs and plexing the occasional big purchase like the carrier the FC says he wants you in.
- most year or more old play-every-day people make so much ISK they would be mad not to plex with some of the excess, you end up with more than you can possibly spend in game and start doing crazy cr@p like buying rare ships to station spin
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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
238
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Posted - 2014.03.02 23:04:00 -
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I thought this discussion was about how to make mad dosh in c5 space with solo dread... not about who buys plex in/out of game Blue-Fire Best Fire |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9096
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:05:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Consider if everyone assumed that your first ever EVE character who happens to be in an a NPC Corp is considered to be "hiding" and "antisocial" there while they learn the ropes and keep an eye out for a Corp they might like to join. I'm decently sure I've seen that face before, but maybe it was just another character who looked a lot like yours.
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Consider that it would not be considered antisocial to not be grateful to completely random and unassociated people who happen to be playing the game as they want (plex or not), with absolutely no bearing on you, and whom are making absolutely no sacrifice or action that you in any way shape or form need or should be grateful of, because they are doing it in their own best interest and of their own recognizance. Your statement was considerably broader than merely that regarding the buying and selling of PLEX.
Salvos Rhoska wrote:I dont owe you, or anyone else in this game, anything. Nor you to me, or anyone else to me. But what you specifically said was that no player owes any other player gratitude. Which is patently false. I owe many players gratitude for the parts they play in helping to shape my gameplay experience. Some of them are members of Goonswarm. Some of them are in other CFC alliances. Some of them are members of alliances who continue to feed me kills and content.
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Oh? Your gratefulness doesn't extend to action? Just talk? Not really worth much then, is it. It does indeed extend to action. Just not the action you were hoping for. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
253
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:48:00 -
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Money makes one unhappy.
Stay poor and be happy. |
Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1559
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:56:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:Truly solo 600mil/hr
Cool story, bro.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
396
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Posted - 2014.03.03 02:14:00 -
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Hra Neuvosto wrote:Money makes one unhappy.
Stay poor and be happy.
That's easy for you to say, Santa. |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
238
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Posted - 2014.03.03 04:01:00 -
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Hra Neuvosto wrote:Money makes one unhappy.
Stay poor and be happy.
I got a taste for welping nags tho! Blue-Fire Best Fire |
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