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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:50:00 -
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And AmericaGÇÖs Most Gridlocked Cities AreGǪ
Quote:Top 10 most gridlocked cities in the U.S. 2013:
1. Los Angeles, Calif. Commuters spent an average 64 hours in traffic. 2. Honolulu, Hawaii. 60 hours. 3. San Francisco, Calif. 56 hours. 4. Austin, Texas. 41 hours. 5. New York, N.Y. 53 hours. 6. Bridgeport, Conn. 42 hours. 7. San Jos+¬, Calif. 37 hours. 8. Seattle, Wash. 37 hours. 9. Boston, Mass. 38 hours. 10. Washington, D.C. 40 hours.
64 hours / 7 days = 9.1 hours a day spent in your car...
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.03.05 13:19:00 -
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No problem for me. I got rid of my car in 1995 when I moved somewhere I didn't need one. San Francisco.
It's not the cars that are America's problem. It's the lack of any interest in public transportation. LA got rid of it's public transportation, the best in the world, back in the 40's to build all those freeways.
All the land allocated for the Interstate Highway System is used up, and there is not any real way to add anymore, so we are stuck with what we have, and it's going to do nothing but get worse.
this situation was caused by one thing: an utter lack of long-term thinking, and planning. It was all just a money grab for a small group of people. Sure turned out fun did it not? "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:11:00 -
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NYC doesn't have a very good excuse for all of the cars on the street. There are a lot of public transportation modes feeding into the city, and once you're there, you have a good subway and bus system. Maybe it's because of the expensive train tickets. Buying tickets for 2 adults and a kid over 12 can cost as much or more than just driving directly to your destination and paying for parking.
Something sounds very inefficient about that. Riding a train that can carry 1,000-1,200 passengers, and having to do some transfers and walking at the end, costs as much as driving an individual 4-passenger vehicle. |
unidenify
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:14:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:And AmericaGÇÖs Most Gridlocked Cities AreGǪQuote:Top 10 most gridlocked cities in the U.S. 2013:
1. Los Angeles, Calif. Commuters spent an average 64 hours in traffic. 2. Honolulu, Hawaii. 60 hours. 3. San Francisco, Calif. 56 hours. 4. Austin, Texas. 41 hours. 5. New York, N.Y. 53 hours. 6. Bridgeport, Conn. 42 hours. 7. San Jos+¬, Calif. 37 hours. 8. Seattle, Wash. 37 hours. 9. Boston, Mass. 38 hours. 10. Washington, D.C. 40 hours.
64 hours / 7 days = 9.1 hours a day spent in your car...
it state each year, not each week
Quote:On average, drivers in the ten most traffic-jammed cities spent 47 hours GÇö more than a typical working week GÇö behind the wheels each year.
assume that average person work 46 weeks with 6 week holiday, and 4.8 days per week due to random holiday for total 220 days of work.
then we can assume that average time per day in traffic is 30 min for LA. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:13:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:51:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:NYC doesn't have a very good excuse for all of the cars on the street. There are a lot of public transportation modes feeding into the city, and once you're there, you have a good subway and bus system. Maybe it's because of the expensive train tickets. Buying tickets for 2 adults and a kid over 12 can cost as much or more than just driving directly to your destination and paying for parking.
Something sounds very inefficient about that. Riding a train that can carry 1,000-1,200 passengers, and having to do some transfers and walking at the end, costs as much as driving an individual 4-passenger vehicle.
The problem in Manhattan now is it's so packed full of the 1% who will never stoop to riding a subway or bus. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
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Posted - 2014.03.05 22:49:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:NYC doesn't have a very good excuse for all of the cars on the street. There are a lot of public transportation modes feeding into the city, and once you're there, you have a good subway and bus system. Maybe it's because of the expensive train tickets. Buying tickets for 2 adults and a kid over 12 can cost as much or more than just driving directly to your destination and paying for parking.
That's not completely true. Robert Moses made it easy to get to and from midtown. But when my brother lived in Astoria and taught in Brooklyn, even though the commute was only a few miles as the crow files, he had to take a train to midtown, and then take another train all the way back out to get to school. He got around it by doing all his class prep on the morning train, and his grading on the afternoon train.
NYC could do with a lot more cross-borough trains, and trains from e.g., Penn Station to JFK and LaGuardia would take a fair number of cabs off the streets as well. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2014.03.06 16:54:00 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:NYC doesn't have a very good excuse for all of the cars on the street. There are a lot of public transportation modes feeding into the city, and once you're there, you have a good subway and bus system. Maybe it's because of the expensive train tickets. Buying tickets for 2 adults and a kid over 12 can cost as much or more than just driving directly to your destination and paying for parking. That's not completely true. Robert Moses made it easy to get to and from midtown. But when my brother lived in Astoria and taught in Brooklyn, even though the commute was only a few miles as the crow files, he had to take a train to midtown, and then take another train all the way back out to get to school. He got around it by doing all his class prep on the morning train, and his grading on the afternoon train. NYC could do with a lot more cross-borough trains, and trains from e.g., Penn Station to JFK and LaGuardia would take a fair number of cabs off the streets as well. Yeah, that's very true. There's no easy way to go north-south or vice versa in Brooklyn and Queens. The company I work for moved from Manhattan to Forest Hills, Queens, and some employees who live in Brooklyn just quit rather than do the commute. The Brooklyn people who didn't spend 1 to 1.5 hours commuting one-way. The distance is just about 12 miles as the crow flies, but it takes that long, either by public transit or by car.
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Sibyyl
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:37:00 -
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Fight gridlock, ride a Ducati. Seriously though, I can usually get home in about 10 mins during rush hour. With Bay Area traffic being what it is, it takes me almost an hour doing the same drive in a car. Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
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Posted - 2014.03.06 19:40:00 -
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Come to Belgium! We got the most traffick jammed cities in the world! Yus, our tiny country actually occupies place 1 (Brussels) and 2 (Antwerp)
Here's an article on Forbes about the most traffic-packed cities in the world: The World's Most Traffic-Congested Cities
PS: time spent yearly in traffick on average by drivers in those cities is about 85 hours (lil more in Brussels, little less in Antwerp)
-áWormholes, shattered dreams & lost hopes Wing Commander Okuuda discharged dishonorably and later found dead |
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Grymmstorm
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.06 20:04:00 -
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unidenify wrote:stoicfaux wrote:And AmericaGÇÖs Most Gridlocked Cities AreGǪQuote:Top 10 most gridlocked cities in the U.S. 2013:
1. Los Angeles, Calif. Commuters spent an average 64 hours in traffic. 2. Honolulu, Hawaii. 60 hours. 3. San Francisco, Calif. 56 hours. 4. Austin, Texas. 41 hours. 5. New York, N.Y. 53 hours. 6. Bridgeport, Conn. 42 hours. 7. San Jos+¬, Calif. 37 hours. 8. Seattle, Wash. 37 hours. 9. Boston, Mass. 38 hours. 10. Washington, D.C. 40 hours.
64 hours / 7 days = 9.1 hours a day spent in your car... it state each year, not each week Quote:On average, drivers in the ten most traffic-jammed cities spent 47 hours GÇö more than a typical working week GÇö behind the wheels each year.
assume that average person work 46 weeks with 6 week holiday, and 4.8 days per week due to random holiday for total 220 days of work. then we can assume that average time per day in traffic is 30 min for LA.
The sad part is, I spend twice that in the mornings and three times that in the afternoons. Over two and a half hours a day in traffic. And I only live twenty miles from work. |
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2014.03.06 22:45:00 -
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I always do feel sorry/laugh at the people driving in Toronto when I keep up to their pace while walking.
Nowhere near as bad as NYC and the like, but still an issue nonetheless. wumbo |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
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Posted - 2014.03.07 01:53:00 -
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Tokyo on a friday night at the start of a national holiday.
Now thats some jam going on there. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.03.07 02:12:00 -
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unidenify wrote: it state each year, not each week
assume that average person work 46 weeks with 6 week holiday, and 4.8 days per week due to random holiday for total 220 days of work.
then we can assume that average time per day in traffic is 30 min for LA.
Those numbers are incredibly low then. I don't know what the article used for data, but here in Atlanta, it takes me ~one hour for a a 30 mile (46km) reverse commute. (1.25 to 2 hours on bad days.) When I finally break free of the traffic and hit 70mph (110kph,) I see 5+ miles (8km) of people jammed up heading in the opposite direction.
And one hour commutes are just about average for Atlanta, last I heard.
I, for one, question the article's methodology.
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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
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Posted - 2014.03.07 04:13:00 -
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i sometimes get held up on the way to work by herds of deer crossing the road. doubly sucks when i get stuck at the railroad crossing right after |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:58:00 -
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Eurydia Vespasian wrote:i sometimes get held up on the way to work by herds of deer crossing the road. doubly sucks when i get stuck at the railroad crossing right after Deer are afraid of loud noises, i.e. gunshots. Trains, however, are not.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
110506
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:04:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:
I, for one, question the article's methodology.
Correct methodology or not does not preclude the fact that the congestion is bad and getting worse.
When we lived in the burbs in Houston, my dad had to drive across town completely, using the freeways, so he would encounter the traffic heading into town, then the traffic heading out of town to workplaces on the west side.
The whole thing took 90 minutes, twice a day. On the freeways.
And that was in 1978. I can't even think what it's like now.
Geez, he did that every day for 6 years straight. Ugh. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
jason hill
The Riot Formation Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:08:00 -
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mwhahaahhahahha I can fkn walk to work .... although I don't cos im a lazy b`stard .... get out your car you fat American gits and bloody walk ...bloody lazy sods |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:15:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:unidenify wrote: it state each year, not each week
assume that average person work 46 weeks with 6 week holiday, and 4.8 days per week due to random holiday for total 220 days of work.
then we can assume that average time per day in traffic is 30 min for LA.
Those numbers are incredibly low then. I don't know what the article used for data, but here in Atlanta, it takes me ~one hour for a a 30 mile (46km) reverse commute. (1.25 to 2 hours on bad days.) When I finally break free of the traffic and hit 70mph (110kph,) I see 5+ miles (8km) of people jammed up heading in the opposite direction. And one hour commutes are just about average for Atlanta, last I heard. I, for one, question the article's methodology.
Remember it speaks about average time, so the time people (not only you, but everyone) spend in traffic not only a peak hours (wich is undoubtly alot more then 30 min) but also on offpeak hours. So it includes every timeperiod & day, including the days with small/little trafficjams. What the article doesn't say is when somethin'gs considered a trafficjam, the time spend NOT moving? or moving below a certain speed (makes alot of difference) -áShrouded in mystery, the Jovian race Wing Commander Okuuda discharged dishonorably and later found dead |
MutnantRebel
Shamrock a knock Inc.
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Posted - 2014.03.09 07:13:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:And AmericaGÇÖs Most Gridlocked Cities AreGǪQuote:Top 10 most gridlocked cities in the U.S. 2013:
1. Los Angeles, Calif. Commuters spent an average 64 hours in traffic. 2. Honolulu, Hawaii. 60 hours. 3. San Francisco, Calif. 56 hours. 4. Austin, Texas. 41 hours. 5. New York, N.Y. 53 hours. 6. Bridgeport, Conn. 42 hours. 7. San Jos+¬, Calif. 37 hours. 8. Seattle, Wash. 37 hours. 9. Boston, Mass. 38 hours. 10. Washington, D.C. 40 hours.
64 hours / 7 days = 9.1 hours a day spent in your car...
I knew L.A. was ahead of us in bad traffic, but I thought we were AT LEAST #3 LOL. Apparently I need to be happy that the millions of morons on our roads aren't as bad as Honolulu! NO I will not take your sister for payment! I'm married to one sister already! |
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Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:40:00 -
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los angeles is bad. 2.5 hours a night, easy. i've been caught in it a couple times, I don't know why people do it to themselves. it's much better to move than commute here.
64h per year is light, it should be 15-20h/week Rainfleet on Twitch |
Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
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Posted - 2014.03.10 14:02:00 -
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So if Americans spend this long sitting in cars all day, why are they so terrible at making them? Not looks wise mind there are plenty of beautiful looking American cars, but they are all so so terribad!
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
110516
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Posted - 2014.03.10 14:27:00 -
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Black Panpher wrote:So if Americans spend this long sitting in cars all day, why are they so terrible at making them? Not looks wise mind there are plenty of beautiful looking American cars, but they are all so so terribad!
Have you seen or driven the cars made by the Soviets and Eastern Block countries "back in the day" ??
If American cars were all so terribad they would not sell, so maybe your idea of terribad is different from other people's idea of terribad. Care to elaborate ?? Just saying something like that without even one demonstrative reason comes across as.......meaning nothing. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2014.03.10 14:29:00 -
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Yes, that's a mystery. Even more mysterious is why our auto industry can make police cruisers (Ford Crown Victorias) that are solidly built and perform great. When the cops retire them, taxi and limo companies by them and drive them around for several more years. But the same industry can't make a consumer car that doesn't break down or just fall apart. Why is that? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
110516
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Posted - 2014.03.10 14:33:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Yes, that's a mystery. Even more mysterious is why our auto industry can make police cruisers (Ford Crown Victorias) that are solidly built and perform great. When the cops retire them, taxi and limo companies by them and drive them around for several more years. But the same industry can't make a consumer car that doesn't break down or just fall apart. Why is that?
Everything breaks down and falls apart, even our very selves. What's the exact issue here ? I have heard nothing dramatic as far as quality statistics in years, except for the Teslas that keep catching fire, that Tesla keeps denying ("OK, we just imagined the fire then. Right). "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
1509
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Posted - 2014.03.10 15:30:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Black Panpher wrote:So if Americans spend this long sitting in cars all day, why are they so terrible at making them? Not looks wise mind there are plenty of beautiful looking American cars, but they are all so so terribad!
Have you seen or driven the cars made by the Soviets and Eastern Block countries "back in the day" ?? If American cars were all so terribad they would not sell, so maybe your idea of terribad is different from other people's idea of terribad. Care to elaborate ?? Just saying something like that without even one demonstrative reason comes across as.......meaning nothing.
American cars are ******* awful, in almost every way, **** chassis, massive engines that are neither powerful or economical not to mention notoriously the poorest handling cars in the world, I did not think this would need clarification its common knowledge. For example Mustang will no longer let Top Gear test there cars, they have to travel to the states hire one then review how bad it is.
I'm only 30 so no I never drove a Skoda or a Lada before they became "decent" besides the fact that saying "This country's car is bad as well so it cancels out our bad cars?" doesn't work lol.
I don't know why Americans buy **** cars it must come down to cost or the fact that fuel is still so cheap and the country has only just started believing in global warming, but to be honest I don't know why Americans do a lot of stupid things, I do know the clever ones go for Japanese cars for cost/perfomance and I'm not talking about the people who still believe the Prius is economical and environmentally friendly...
My family is into cars and I grew up in LA, still more than half my family is there so I do get to experience American cars first hand so i'm not just talking unfounded ****.
I don't mean to twist your panties.... it's just the truth.
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unidenify
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.10 15:43:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Yes, that's a mystery. Even more mysterious is why our auto industry can make police cruisers (Ford Crown Victorias) that are solidly built and perform great. When the cops retire them, taxi and limo companies by them and drive them around for several more years. But the same industry can't make a consumer car that doesn't break down or just fall apart. Why is that? Everything breaks down and falls apart, even our very selves. What's the exact issue here ? I have heard nothing dramatic as far as quality statistics in years, except for the Teslas that keep catching fire, that Tesla keeps denying ("OK, we just imagined the fire then. Right).
5 out of 25,000 cars is pretty extreme low
it is just Media went frenzy on cars that win 99/100 award.
do you think anyone care when gas car caught in fire? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
110516
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Posted - 2014.03.10 15:54:00 -
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Black Panpher wrote: but to be honest I don't know why Americans do a lot of stupid things....
We have no exclusive contract for stupidity. Not by any means. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
110516
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Posted - 2014.03.10 15:55:00 -
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unidenify wrote:
do you think anyone care when gas car caught in fire?
Yes. The owners. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
1147
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Posted - 2014.03.11 02:30:00 -
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But, but ... Imagine Traffic if you were inside one of these Becker Jet Vans ...
Traffic Outside? no Problem, watch a movie! I imagine myself in this one or perhaps this one to play EVE Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
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