Doesn't vote

Won't run

Is bitter about being unrepresented

:You:

Sugar Kyle for CSM.
Lowsec pirates need love, too. And Kyle will make sure we get it.

Well as it is I just can't swallow the sham and faux-democracy nature of a player-elected CSM that espouses to represent all of New Eden, while ultimately just consolidating power for nullsec blocs.

You see, my math was wrong, at 72% of hisec population -- 10 of the 14 current spots should actually be reserved for people who live in hisec...

...for its in that disparity between repeated nullsec dominance on the CSM and actual population density that the CSM is revealed as the sham faux-democracy it is.

Given this disparity, why should anyone outside of nullsec give a flying f#ck about the CSM?

This is what is wrong with the CSM, folk pushing an agenda for their particular interest rather than the game as a holistic entity.

Leaving aside that a very significant fraction of that 72% are the alts of nullsec players...

This is what is wrong with the CSM, folk pushing an agenda for their particular interest rather than the game as a holistic entity.

Oh do tell... what exactly is that fraction? Do you have a number? Or perhaps just a good guess? Or... wait, I know... we should simply take your word on it without question?

But let us head off to fantasy land for a moment and assume that you know what you are talking about. Let us even be so generous as to say that fully half of every the entire dirty hisec peasantry are, in fact, just alts of your glorious nullsec master race. Let us do some quick math, let me see... 72% divided by 2... 31% Nearly one third of all New Eden.

Tell me, are one third of the CSM candidates offering to represent hisec interests? Or should we just be so grateful for your infinitely wise & benign leadership that we should happily vote for our nullsec overlords lobbyists because even though your goal is pretty much to shove it up our hisec sphincters at every opportunity that you really do it because you actually love us, it is for our own good and it has nothing to do with trying to force us all into moving out to nullsec and becoming your latest patch of indentured servants who's only purpose is to feed you free ISK and stroke your egos all day? And those of us who refuse to bend our knees to you should simply remain quiet & suck it up or quit EvE entirely, correct?

Be careful what you wish for, because it just may happen. You will either turn hisec into an empty wasteland, and CCP's offices not far behind due to lost subscriptions, or you will flood your ranks with bitter, former hisec players who are all just waiting for the chance to AWOX you & your precious Alliances at every turn.

The reality is that you should be very, very grateful that the hisec population has little interest in CSM affairs & would rather just be left alone to do our thing in peace. Because if we did care as much as you keep saying we should then it would not end well for you & your kind.

Oh do tell... what exactly is that fraction? Do you have a number? Or perhaps just a good guess? Or... wait, I know... we should simply take your word on it without question?

But let us head off to fantasy land for a moment and assume that you ...

Sometimes there's a fine line between appearing to be passionate about an issue (and you are despite your earlier claim to not care) and coming across as a wanker.

It seems to me your on the wanker side of the line.

Why not tone it down and take the personal stuff out of it and just argue facts?

Oh do tell... what exactly is that fraction? Do you have a number? Or perhaps just a good guess? Or... wait, I know... we should simply take your word on it without question?

Tell me, are one third of the CSM candidates offering to represent hisec interests?

Be careful what you wish for, because it just may happen. You will either turn hisec into an empty wasteland, and CCP's offices not far behind due to lost subscriptions, or you will flood your ranks with bitter, former hisec players who are all just waiting for the chance to AWOX you & your precious Alliances at every turn.

No, I don't have an exact number, but I'll turn that right back at you. Do you have a number? Do you think it's zero?

From the defensive and desperate tone of your post, I suspect that you're perfectly well aware that the real percentage is higher than you're comfortable thinking about.

I don't know of a single nullsec player who doesn't have at least 1 alt in hi-sec. Most, like me, actually have more characters in empire than they do in nullsec. Some have a lot of character in empire.

I'd say it was a very conservative assumption to say for every character in 0.0 there is at least one hi-sec "alt". That means that somewhere between a quarter and a third of hi-sec is actually "0.0 players".

I am stalking her because I am a creepy person who has nothing better to do between my loli/furry hentai binges.

Fixed that for you.

If you're going to make such an asinine assertion, be prepared to take some flack for it.

I have citations. You have only your ego.

Also, you should try harder to not be so obvious as to who's alt you are.

Oh dear... so instead of 72% divided by 50% then I should have used 72% divided by something between 25% and 33%? So the actual number is even lower than my original guess? Which, in turn, would mean even more CSMs should be representing hisec interests than I originally claimed.

Well, I certainly appreciate you helping my argument. That was very generous of you.



Fixed that for you.

2 killboard links and a *chuckle*, Massively article about one more kill.

Oh, yeah, that put me in my place alright. I bow before your superior skill at conspiracy theory.

kaarous i had no idea you were such a pervert

one's in niarja, the other in lowsec

i have no idea why concord took so long to respond

2 killboard links and a *chuckle*, Massively article about one more kill.

Oh, yeah, that put me in my place alright. I bow before your superior skill at conspiracy theory.

Oh, and hey, Malcanis? She's claiming that I'm you. Doesn't saying that still violate the new terms of service?

Everybody is me

That low sec market hub chick, whatshername.

No, I don't have an exact number, but I'll turn that right back at you. Do you have a number? Do you think it's zero?

From the defensive and desperate tone of your post, I suspect that you're perfectly well aware that the real percentage is higher than you're comfortable thinking about.

I don't know of a single nullsec player who doesn't have at least 1 alt in hi-sec. Most, like me, actually have more characters in empire than they do in nullsec. Some have a lot of character in empire.

You asked if I had a good guess. I sure do:

I'd say it was a very conservative assumption to say for every character in 0.0 there is at least one hi-sec "alt". That means that somewhere between a quarter and a third of hi-sec is actually "0.0 players".

(And incidentally, that figure alone demonstrates how meaningless it is to talk about "hi-sec players" or "0.0 players".)

So your saying CCP can't distinguish between a main and an alt?

Um, isn't CCP already planning on just putting 'mains' on the monument. So if they can identify 'mains' for the monument then...

Beyond that, can't the person be asked to disclose all characters as part of the process and attest to operating primarily in hisec -- with penalty of forfeture of said accounts if its found out later they lied?

Point is, if there is the *will* do this, it can be done -- what I sense though is the null blocks fear it, so naysay it.

Not trying to be an ass about this, but if you really want anyone in hisec to give a flying f#ck about the CSM you need to enfranchise them with representation that more accurately aligns to population density.