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CCP is putting the character with the highest SP from each account onto the monument. Usually, but not always, that's the character people think of as their "main". It's true for the account Malcanis is on, but I have more than one account.

What if I clone jump down to hi-sec and vote? Can I vote for a hi-sec slot then? What if I have 2 or 3 accounts which I use for hi-sec activities? Are they allowed to vote under your system? If not, who will investigate each account and what determines eligibility?

What if fewer people want to be a "hi-sec CSM" than there are slots to fill?

First, i'm interested in your thoughts on if you think regional representation *should* be implemented or not. If not, why not.

Yes let's trust the high sec griefer to represent high sec versus Malcanis who actually has a decent high sec representation track record.

Yes let's trust the high sec griefer to represent high sec versus Malcanis who actually has a decent high sec representation track record.

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[Now at the moment, CCPs attention is on 0.0 - and rightly so. I 100% believe that this is the area of the game that most needs immediate attention for any number of good reasons. However, once the work on 0.0 is well underway (I don't say "complete" because such a process is never completed) I also believe that there is a strong argument to be made for rethinking the basis on which hi-sec is structured....

I'm not Malcanis but..

I don't think regional representation is the way to go. A region is just where you live, but what matters is what you do and what your mindset is.
Let me list some high sec candidates:
Psychotic Monk, Steve Ronuken, Mike Azariah, Mangala Solaris, Erotica 1, Lisara Khatam and depending on the contracts... Ali Aras and Psianh Auvyander..
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.there is nullsec organizational bias built into the voting mechanism itself.

Therein lies the true crime of this faux democracy I mention, because excellent candidates like Psychotic Monk etc that you mention don't have a huge null alliance behind them, so they are less likely to get elected; not because they aren't good representatives of their game play and can't get votes, but because of the reality that hisec cats are harder to herd than nullsec bloc members...there is nullsec organizational bias built into the voting mechanism itself.

To pretend this isn't the case is farsical, one need only look at each years list of CSM members and where they primarily operate.

To this end (and with the majority of EvE's population in hisec), it only makes sense a good chunk of seats are reserved for hisec people exactly like you mentioned, to overcome the voting mechanism inequity.

I think it was mostly removed with the introduction of STV and from what I heard they even want to remove the scripting advantage of the nullsec alliances by allowing everyone to share his ballots.

Also, I can tell you at least two hisec alliances that got a member elected before, Red Federation and Ivy League. It's just a matter of bothering to run.
Even Wspace corps, with extremly different attitudes, managed to get their **** together and elect 2, almost 3, candidates in the last election. Two very different candidates at that.

Voted for Ripard an Malcanis last time... Dunno this year.

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Feyd-Rautha is literally doing the CFC's work, spreading despair and apathy, doing his level best to persuade non-0.0 voters that there's no point even attempting to try and get CSM representation. Consider who's interests he's actually serving here.

Meanwhile, people like me and you consistently and frequently advise people to vote.

Seems like there's one group of people who actually care about getting representation for hi-sec, and another group that just want to make excuses and give up rather than even try. I think we can all see pretty clearly who's in which.

I am not trying to convince people not to vote, I am simply saying the CSM is a sham of faux democracy given every single CSM is stacked with nullsec-centric representation. Until there are seats reserved by region, the CSM is a nullsec dominated farce in practice...

Because lets be honest, the CSM is just hurdle one...actually getting CCP to then action stuff takes a strong and unified push, and what will that push be? nullsec agenda items. Again.

..but at which point do you say adding an 8th nullsec rep to the existing 7 nullsec CMS's chorus adds any more net value?

Think diminishing returns on investment.

I'm voting for whichever CSM candidate promises to hunt down the DDoS attackers and remove their fingers from their hands in the slowest, most creative, and painful way imaginable. Flaying the skin on each finger and dripping salt or citrus until they beg to have it cut off sounds good. Kinda like what the GOT books described. If they can do that then they have my vote.

i have no idea who to vote for...

is there a matching website like last year?

Yes, I think the person that runs that site is still collecting questions from the different player segments.

adds any more net value?[/i]"

Can you answer that?

An actually pretty good and well thought out post.