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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.03.07 09:23:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:That's like saying "my district representative said it so it must be true."
I almost wish Dinsdale had tried to make an appeal to one of the immeasurably stupid things Trebor has ever said.
Oh, and I checked Jester's Trek, (Ripard's blog), and I was right, EVE is still dying. We have to give teh newbs moar stuff guyz, or they will quit and EVE won't be able to go on anymore. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Inari Visas
X-Prot
32
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Posted - 2014.03.07 09:41:00 -
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Regardless of what The Mittani did or is doing, I wouldn't want one with an ego of his size to speak for the community. There has to be a conflict of interest somewhere in there. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
900
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Posted - 2014.03.07 09:47:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Oh, and I checked Jester's Trek, (Ripard's blog), and I was right, EVE is still dying. We have to give teh newbs moar stuff guyz, or they will quit and EVE won't be able to go on anymore.
And that's just the more reasonable end of the spectrum of stuff he says. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
546
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Posted - 2014.03.07 09:49:00 -
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Will he bring white and white+pink paint jobs?
Doesn't matter. He and mynnna get my vote anyway. Not sure I care about the rest. |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
906
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Posted - 2014.03.07 09:52:00 -
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I don't think mittens wants the CSM, and he probably influences Eve more without that burden. That said, if he wanted it, he would have cfc bloc votes among others. He would get the position if he wanted. |
Inari Visas
X-Prot
32
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:06:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:I don't think mittens wants the CSM, and he probably influences Eve more without that burden. That said, if he wanted it, he would have cfc bloc votes among others. He would get the position if he wanted.
Didn't he say it before? That he is not interested in running for CSM? I don't think he need it, in any case. |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
222
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:08:00 -
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Ok, so, uhh...
Is anything stopping him from running for a seat? I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9105
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:11:00 -
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His own decision not to. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
1049
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:11:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:I think enough time has passed and Mittens has had plenty of time to think about his one poor choice he made. We should forgive and forget, and have Mittens take his rightful place as CSM chair.
How much did he pay you to say this? |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
900
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:13:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:I think enough time has passed and Mittens has had plenty of time to think about his one poor choice he made. We should forgive and forget, and have Mittens take his rightful place as CSM chair. How much did he pay you to say this?
People have to be paid to want an effective CSM chair? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
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Plug in Baby
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
152
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:17:00 -
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CSM hold power and influence. This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main. |
Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
79
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:18:00 -
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Andski wrote:Basically if he were to run he'd inevitably be elected and there's not a damn thing you'd be able to do about it beyond post more tears on the forums. Whether CCP would clear him to run is another question, but he wouldn't run without clearing it with CCP beforehand, so if he ever did post that he was running, you'd be unable to effect anything there (or anything at all)
This post sums up how the goon attitude is towards the rest of eve and has me concerned, If this standpoint is nurtured and propagated then this game's future is in trouble.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
900
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:25:00 -
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Tyrton wrote:This post sums up how the goon attitude is towards the rest of eve and has me concerned, If this standpoint is nurtured and propagated then this game's future is in trouble.
The only reason they can be like that is because no-one else is prepared to put in the time and effort to take them down. It's entirely the fault of the players that don't like them that they're so unlikeable. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Seven Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
950
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:26:00 -
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I'll keep Mittani in President if I get a free phone. |
Inari Visas
X-Prot
32
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:30:00 -
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admiral root wrote:The only reason they can be like that is because no-one else is prepared to put in the time and effort to take them down. It's entirely the fault of the players that don't like them that they're so unlikeable.
You seriously put ALL responsibility on everyone BUT goons? |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
902
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:40:00 -
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Inari Visas wrote:admiral root wrote:The only reason they can be like that is because no-one else is prepared to put in the time and effort to take them down. It's entirely the fault of the players that don't like them that they're so unlikeable. You seriously put ALL responsibility on everyone BUT goons?
When people hate them just for winning? Yes. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
523
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:43:00 -
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Inari Visas wrote:You seriously put ALL responsibility on everyone BUT goons? In all seriousness, what do the goons do that is so bad.
They have a reputation that is often referred to, but what are the despicable things they do?
Aside from their recruiting scam that they openly market as being a scam (and in doing so, give people plenty of warning so it can be avoided), what is so evil about GSF? eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |
Inari Visas
X-Prot
32
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:49:00 -
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I don't know what they do that is so bad, it's what they don't do. I don't think they are evil or something, but if you have such an influence on a game and it's community, wouldn't it be best to act accordingly?
From my point of view, they act a bit selfishly, as I read from their comments here and there. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
902
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:52:00 -
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Inari Visas wrote:I don't know what they do that is so bad, it's what they don't do. I don't think they are evil or something, but if you have such an influence on a game and it's community, wouldn't it be best to act accordingly?
They have a history of forcing CCP's hand when things need fixing, even if fixing them is bad for Goons. But why should a single group of players have any more responsibility to do anything of the sort? They're paying customers, just like you and I. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Inari Visas
X-Prot
32
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Posted - 2014.03.07 10:59:00 -
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They shouldn't have more responsibility, they should have just as much. And they should act as such. Which, in my opinion, many eve players are doing just the opposite of. You should take responsibility for what ever you do, and not say things like "it's not my problem if I'm bigger than you". |
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Cavalira
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
293
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:06:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Inari Visas wrote:I don't know what they do that is so bad, it's what they don't do. I don't think they are evil or something, but if you have such an influence on a game and it's community, wouldn't it be best to act accordingly? They have a history of forcing CCP's hand when things need fixing, even if fixing them is bad for Goons. But why should a single group of players have any more responsibility to do anything of the sort? They're paying customers, just like you and I.
I didn't see a slowcat nerf. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2981
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:12:00 -
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Tyrton wrote:Andski wrote:Basically if he were to run he'd inevitably be elected and there's not a damn thing you'd be able to do about it beyond post more tears on the forums. Whether CCP would clear him to run is another question, but he wouldn't run without clearing it with CCP beforehand, so if he ever did post that he was running, you'd be unable to effect anything there (or anything at all) This post sums up how the goon attitude is towards the rest of eve and has me concerned, If this standpoint is nurtured and propagated then this game's future is in trouble.
Yeah, God forbid anyone be allowed to win too much. Especially if no one has the balls and the means to try and do anything about it.
They should be ashamed of themselves for having friends. Boo. Hiss. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Inari Visas
X-Prot
32
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:19:00 -
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Just post a "Come at me bro" meme and be done with it then. |
Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1242
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:19:00 -
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This thread is a master class in goon smuggery
*signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums* |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2981
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:25:00 -
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Inari Visas wrote:Just post a "Come at me bro" meme and be done with it then.
You know what I'm hearing from you?
Unwillingness do something about a thing you complain about. I'm not a Goon, nor do I expect I shall ever be, but I cannot ignore the combination of hypocrisy and cowardice in all you "Grr Goons" people.
You're anklebiters, plain and simple. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10262
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:27:00 -
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admiral root wrote:They have a history of forcing CCP's hand when things need fixing, even if fixing them is bad for Goons. But why should a single group of players have any more responsibility to do anything of the sort? They're paying customers, just like you and I.
We don't "force CCP's hand," although I understand why it could be seen that way. POS bowling was declared and exploit and later nerfed when we started doing it. AoE doomsdays were changed in Dominion after we (along with PL, RAWR and others) demonstrated killing a carrier with AoE doomsdays, which showed that taken to its logical conclusion, a handful of titans could one-shot an arbitrarily large capital fleet with impunity. We abused drone assist by fielding Dominixes exclusively (along with everyone else in nullsec because, frankly, that was the optimal doctrine.) Tech was abused through excesses like Burn Jita, Hulkageddon, OTEC and other stuff like paying goons to make dumb propaganda posters - basically spending huge amounts of ISK on silly crap while continuing to have full peacetime and strategic ship reimbursement and maintaining multiple regions worth of sov.
Backchannels to CCP are a myth and have been for years. We have a CSM presence, but we have it because CSM 5 were awful and full of empire players voicing their opinions on 0.0 mechanics that they had absolutely no experience with, while CCP gave them their ear. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
902
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:33:00 -
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Andski wrote:We don't "force CCP's hand," although I understand why it could be seen that way.
Fair enough. I guess my point is that, as a group, you've definitely been involved in making some positive changes happen, but the weirdo haters just ignore that because grrrr, Goons. As for doing stuff that works, even if it's stupidly overpowered, that's just common sense. If people restrict themselves because something is bad then they're just asking to be beaten. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
222
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:34:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:His own decision not to.
So...uhh...why do we have this thread, then? I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
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Rhanna Khurin
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:37:00 -
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Over my frozen corpse! |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:39:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:I'll keep Mittani in President if I get a free phone. Absolutely NOT !!!
I want a free toaster... |
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