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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:18:00 -
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Luna Lockhearts wrote:The problem I see is not so much with the pricing but the fact that it creates a separate ship. Now i did read somewhere that said something on the lines of 'if they wanted to give a ship a new skin they had to give it a new ID which meant making a new ship in the game' I'm not sure how they could work around that but that would just flood the market with ships that are the same only look different. What I'd like to see is the paint system a station service, you click on it and are able to spray the active ship you currently have with whichever colour scheme you wish (simply start off with colour schemes that are already in the game), the cost would be in isk, with some rare colours later on for AUR and If you were to repackage the ship it would return to its original colours, so to sell it on the market you repackage it, it turns back into the original and you sell it under the usual ship tag, of course contracts would be different, but it would stop from the market being flooded unnecessarily.
The paint changes the ID of the ship, but apart from appearance, the ship is identical to the base it was formed from. The difference between changing the ID of a ship to changing the detailed color scheme is that you now require additional information being sent from the server to client which could create sever lag problems. Future gate camps/camp breaker fleets will require absurd customized paint jobs so that you lag the client out.
In terms of customization and client-server stability, it is easier to have the ship skin on your computer already and transmit the ID type instead of detailed color breakdowns. |
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:25:00 -
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Anhenka wrote:Petrified wrote:A - what no one buys, no one gets paid for anyways - cost is still currently too high because.... Tons of people will buy it at the current pricing. You may not be one of them unless they lower it to literally a few pennies worth of Aurum, but there are already a ton of people who want these skins, at these prices.
Fair point. This is a test and based on response CCP will adjust the pricing. You will certainly see people buying the skins and applying them, but once they lose the ship, will they buy again? There is still such a thing as pricing yourself out of the market or, in this case, pricing stagnation into the market when the sole supplier prices it too high for practicality.
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Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3054
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:55:00 -
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Petrified wrote:While there are certainly plenty of us rolling in ISK, not everyone is rolling in isk or can afford to drop a lot of cash on top of a subscription to buy aurum. Why should the pricing be exclusive? If you're flush with ISK, you can buy Aurum. If you're not flush with ISK, you can run a few L4s to earn ISK to pay for Aurum. And if you're simply too lazy to go out and earn some ISK (which is probably the case for the majority of players complaining) then you can content yourself with flying the standard hulls.
Basically what this boils down to is players that are willing to work towards earning a new feature vs. those that think everything should simply be given to them. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:07:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Petrified wrote:While there are certainly plenty of us rolling in ISK, not everyone is rolling in isk or can afford to drop a lot of cash on top of a subscription to buy aurum. Why should the pricing be exclusive? If you're flush with ISK, you can buy Aurum. If you're not flush with ISK, you can run a few L4s to earn ISK to pay for Aurum. And if you're simply too lazy to go out and earn some ISK (which is probably the case for the majority of players complaining) then you can content yourself with flying the standard hulls. Basically what this boils down to is players that are willing to work towards earning a new feature vs. those that think everything should simply be given to them.
Who said it should be given to them? I do not recall ever saying that. A few level 4s won't pay for the plex to buy Aurum. It would naturally pay for resellers, however. |
Praxis Ginimic
Vessels of the Line Bask of Fail
780
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:10:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Petrified wrote:While there are certainly plenty of us rolling in ISK, not everyone is rolling in isk or can afford to drop a lot of cash on top of a subscription to buy aurum. Why should the pricing be exclusive? If you're flush with ISK, you can buy Aurum. If you're not flush with ISK, you can run a few L4s to earn ISK to pay for Aurum. And if you're simply too lazy to go out and earn some ISK (which is probably the case for the majority of players complaining) then you can content yourself with flying the standard hulls. Basically what this boils down to is players that are willing to work towards earning a new feature vs. those that think everything should simply be given to them.
Don't forget about those of us who are itching to take that new feature away from the ones who've earned it. |
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:12:00 -
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Praxis Ginimic wrote: Don't forget about those of us who are itching to take that new feature away from the ones who've earned it.
It should be entertaining to say the least. |
Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:15:00 -
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Petrified wrote:Who said it should be given to them? I do not recall ever saying that. A few level 4s won't pay for the plex to buy Aurum. It would naturally pay for resellers, however. Quite a few folks, if you read through some of the various threads... 5 Aurum tokens are selling for between $61-84 million ISK @ Jita. Since you only need 350 Aurum for a battleship-size skin, it works out to around $42-$58 million ISK for the battleship version. If you can't earn that through L4s in an hour, skins are the least of your worries...
Petrified wrote:It should be entertaining to say the least. It's already entertaining listening to people cry poverty... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:19:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote: Quite a few folks, if you read through some of the various threads... 5 Aurum tokens are selling for between $61-84 million ISK @ Jita. Since you only need 350 Aurum for a battleship-size skin, it works out to around $42-$58 million ISK for the battleship version. If you can't earn that through L4s in an hour, skins are the least of your worries...
You know, I completely forgot about the aurum tokens. Thanks for reminding me they exist. |
Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3056
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:29:00 -
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Petrified wrote:You know, I completely forgot about the aurum tokens. Thanks for reminding me they exist. No problem - I'd just assumed everyone was buying the tokens as opposed to converting PLEX. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
1908
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:12:00 -
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Maybe I'll make a Maelstrom for L4s after all.
...a Krusual Maelstrom, that is. With a few Krusual Rifters to go alongside it.
Eureka! I'm a genius or something! Certain DJs on EVE-Radio host 1v1 frig tournaments. Krusual Rifters would be perfect for flying in those.
Or Nugeoihuvi merlins. Or Aliastra Incursi. Or - and especially - Kador Punishers.
Side note: I have a Kador Abaddon on SiSi. It is Majestic as F-ckGäó, especially when you're using Gamma crystals. |
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:19:00 -
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probably been suggested, didn't read whole thread: theres probably some entrepeneur out there who is willing to trade his plex for aurum and then buy a bunch of bpcs (they are relatively cheap) and start a system like that
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Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3057
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:24:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Side note: I have a Kador Abaddon on SiSi. It is Majestic as F-ckGäó, especially when you're using Gamma crystals. Has to be better than the Nugoeihuvi Rokh. Not that it's a horrible skin, but the Rokh just doesn't get a person very excited. Now if it was a Raven... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
1908
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:29:00 -
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A mottled, blood-red Rokh seems like a very exciting variation on a brick.
The connotations and metaphorical uses are as myriad as they are violent. |
Arthur Aihaken
Arsenite
3057
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:38:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:A mottled, blood-red Rokh seems like a very exciting variation on a brick. The connotations and metaphorical uses are as myriad as they are violent. I agree, if the brick was something you could get excited about in the first place. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
TehCloud
Mastercard.
219
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:27:00 -
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I sure as hell don't want them to be permanent skins. If you pay for it and lose it, it's gone. That0s what EVE has always been about.
The Golden Pod thingy is okay imho, since you usually don't sit around in a pod and you only get to see it once you've died. My Condor costs less than that module! |
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