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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omen Industries -Entropy-
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Posted - 2014.03.19 21:04:00 -
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anyone got good (T2) hulk fit for mining ops? talking about full ops with 1-2 orcas.. freighter and over 10 other exhumers so something nice to fit into the fleet... Take note there will be max boosts with all leadership skills for tank\yield etc... "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
507
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Posted - 2014.03.20 01:27:00 -
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Depends on where your at, in hisec I would suggest using a fully tanked Skiff.
For nullsec you can use Hulks fit for max yield, just take the appropriate steps. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omen Industries -Entropy-
194
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Posted - 2014.03.20 01:45:00 -
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I got skiff... I got them all. But only time may find excuse to use an hulk is in mining ops.
Problem is that ship for the price and beefy bonus got the most ****** pg\cpu layout I've seen. I got mining upgrades 4 \ cpu management 5 \ pg management 5 and some other fitting skills at 4\5. Still even with all that I think it will be tight fit due to 3 strip miners. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Cruis3r's Cr3w Inc.
84
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Posted - 2014.03.20 04:47:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:I got skiff... I got them all. But only time may find excuse to use an hulk is in mining ops.
Problem is that ship for the price and beefy bonus got the most ****** pg\cpu layout I've seen. I got mining upgrades 4 \ cpu management 5 \ pg management 5 and some other fitting skills at 4\5. Still even with all that I think it will be tight fit due to 3 strip miners.
tanky fit (used an all l5 pilot) [Hulk, Miner]
3x Modulated Strip Miner II (Veldspar Mining Crystal II)
Medium Shield Extender II 2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Upgraded Thermic Dissipation Amplifier I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II Damage Control II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omen Industries -Entropy-
194
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Posted - 2014.03.20 10:49:00 -
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hulk (exhumers 4 ) + fleet boosts make up for the lack of MLU? "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Cruis3r's Cr3w Inc. Margin of Silence
84
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Posted - 2014.03.20 10:57:00 -
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abit hulk compared to skiff with exhumer 4 has a higher yield of around 27% (15% for barges + 12% for humer (t2 MLU only improves mining yield by 9%)). But the main reason i efted it that way that to gank u now atleast 3 cats in .5 are needed probably 4. Barges are throw it away hulls where u can without doubt go full mining yield, on exhumers i prefer abit of tank as they r 10 times the price of a barge.
EDIT: If im confusing sry im currently in a slightly confused state |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omen Industries -Entropy-
194
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Posted - 2014.03.20 11:12:00 -
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no no makes total sense. Also the MLU got some sick cpu penalty so avoiding them makes the whole fitting process easier. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Cruis3r's Cr3w Inc. Margin of Silence
84
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Posted - 2014.03.20 11:15:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:no no makes total sense. Also the MLU got some sick cpu penalty so avoiding them makes the whole fitting process easier.
i ninja edited my previous post |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omen Industries -Entropy-
194
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Posted - 2014.03.20 12:49:00 -
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how this for tanky hulk? (in fleet mind u)
[Hulk, I'm Angry!] Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field Limited Thermic Dissipation Field I Limited Kinetic Deflection Field I Limited Explosive Deflection Field I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5 Mining Drone II x5
really not sure what to put on low slot due to the fact I got plenty of cpu free if I get rid of the mlu modules... Yield without boosts 1484/minute with full boosts (according to EFT) 1607/minute "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
587
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Posted - 2014.03.20 13:41:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:how this for tanky hulk? (in fleet mind u)
[Hulk, I'm Angry!] Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field Limited Thermic Dissipation Field I Limited Kinetic Deflection Field I Limited Explosive Deflection Field I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5 Mining Drone II x5
really not sure what to put on low slot due to the fact I got plenty of cpu free if I get rid of the mlu modules... Yield without boosts 1484/minute with full boosts (according to EFT) 1607/minute
Id go with; [Hulk, Mining B] Micro Auxiliary Power Core II Internal Force Field Array I
Medium Shield Extender II Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Without links; Both have ~25k EHP against omni damage but this setup has 35k ehp vs catalysts (which is by far the most common suicide ganking ship) while yours only has 26k vs catalysts.
With links; 31k EHP omni on yours, 30k EHP omni on my setup, 32k EHP on yours, 42k EHP on mine vs catalysts. Quick napin math says your setup should tank 5 catalysts, my setup tanks 7. Thats before overheating of course.
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omen Industries -Entropy-
194
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:57:00 -
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the whole point of the cove\hulk for me at least in mining ops is the ability to target 3 rocks at same time... skiff got pretty good yield but it focus on one rock so many times u just 1 cycle\kill a roid. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Cruis3r's Cr3w Inc. Margin of Silence
85
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Posted - 2014.03.20 16:45:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:[quote=Nalelmir Ahashion]how this for tanky hulk? (in fleet mind u) Without links; Both have ~25k EHP against omni damage but this setup has 35k ehp vs catalysts (which is by far the most common suicide ganking ship) while yours only has 26k vs catalysts.
With links; 31k EHP omni on yours, 30k EHP omni on my setup, 32k EHP on yours vs 42k EHP on mine against catalysts. Quick napkin math says your setup should tank 5 catalysts, my setup tanks 7. Thats before overheating of course.
hmm where did u take your maths, t1 yes but the cats i know are t2 fitted and in .5 u have 16s till concord arrives if not already on grid. One cat can lay down 10k damage with void till concord arrives. |
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
591
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Posted - 2014.03.20 17:17:00 -
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Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:Joshua Foiritain wrote:[quote=Nalelmir Ahashion]how this for tanky hulk? (in fleet mind u) Without links; Both have ~25k EHP against omni damage but this setup has 35k ehp vs catalysts (which is by far the most common suicide ganking ship) while yours only has 26k vs catalysts.
With links; 31k EHP omni on yours, 30k EHP omni on my setup, 32k EHP on yours vs 42k EHP on mine against catalysts. Quick napkin math says your setup should tank 5 catalysts, my setup tanks 7. Thats before overheating of course.
hmm where did u take your maths, t1 yes but the cats i know are t2 fitted and in .5 u have 16s till concord arrives if not already on grid. One cat can lay down 10k damage with void till concord arrives.
i didn't save the excel sheet but i used 596dps for 19 seconds (11,324 damage) in the maths since i still have EFT open.
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Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
439
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Posted - 2014.03.20 20:14:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:the whole point of the cove\hulk for me at least in mining ops is the ability to target 3 rocks at same time... skiff got pretty good yield but it focus on one rock so many times u just 1 cycle\kill a roid.
That's what survey scanners are for. Having 3 miners doesn't fix that, it just makes you kill the 3 roids in one cycle instead of one. |
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