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Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
297
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Posted - 2014.05.10 19:44:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:
They don't have to. The server has an API that we can all see, and its tracked by a website daily. The server peaked in winter of 2011, and right now there are less people on average than when I started in '08 ('09 really, started on new years eve).
So while I wont really challenge their respect or love, the business incentive is failing by the universal standard of 'growing your business is good'.
Unfortunately for them, nerfing everything repeatedly pisses people off.
And I haven't read the whole thread, but they introduced the noctis into the game and revamped marauders. Then announced they were nerfing their profession. Not a brilliant decision IMHO.
Actually, the server peaked May 5th, 2013 at 19:20:42(unknown timezone, probably EvE time) with 65,303 players online. Currently there are about 45,000 players online, which is greater than at any time in 2008 or 2009. Now, there has been a recent drop in players online in the past week or so, but that is just part of the natural ebb and flow of MMOs, and has been rectified with today's numbers. I'm unsure where you're getting your information from, but it appears to be incorrect. Wolfbane Hauler Inc Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1111
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Posted - 2014.05.10 19:47:00 -
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Xavier Higdon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:
They don't have to. The server has an API that we can all see, and its tracked by a website daily. The server peaked in winter of 2011, and right now there are less people on average than when I started in '08 ('09 really, started on new years eve).
So while I wont really challenge their respect or love, the business incentive is failing by the universal standard of 'growing your business is good'.
Unfortunately for them, nerfing everything repeatedly pisses people off.
And I haven't read the whole thread, but they introduced the noctis into the game and revamped marauders. Then announced they were nerfing their profession. Not a brilliant decision IMHO.
Actually, the server peaked May 5th, 2013 at 19:20:42(unknown timezone, probably EvE time) with 65,303 players online. Currently there are about 45,000 players online, which is greater than at any time in 2008 or 2009. Now, there has been a recent drop in players online in the past week or so, but that is just part of the natural ebb and flow of MMOs, and has been rectified with today's numbers. I'm unsure where you're getting your information from, but it appears to be incorrect.
As I said, the API. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
There is no question that the game is stagnant. Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11418
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:22:00 -
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Subs are not tracked by that. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Jasmine Assasin
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:27:00 -
[1954] - Quote
holy crap, this is a long thread...nvm... |
Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
15439
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:34:00 -
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So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!" |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
297
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:42:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Xavier Higdon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:
They don't have to. The server has an API that we can all see, and its tracked by a website daily. The server peaked in winter of 2011, and right now there are less people on average than when I started in '08 ('09 really, started on new years eve).
So while I wont really challenge their respect or love, the business incentive is failing by the universal standard of 'growing your business is good'.
Unfortunately for them, nerfing everything repeatedly pisses people off.
And I haven't read the whole thread, but they introduced the noctis into the game and revamped marauders. Then announced they were nerfing their profession. Not a brilliant decision IMHO.
Actually, the server peaked May 5th, 2013 at 19:20:42(unknown timezone, probably EvE time) with 65,303 players online. Currently there are about 45,000 players online, which is greater than at any time in 2008 or 2009. Now, there has been a recent drop in players online in the past week or so, but that is just part of the natural ebb and flow of MMOs, and has been rectified with today's numbers. I'm unsure where you're getting your information from, but it appears to be incorrect. As I said, the API. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquilityThere is no question that the game is stagnant.
Have you looked at that page? There are about 45,000 players online right now. That's greater than at any time in 2008, 2009 and 2011. How, exactly, do you infer that the game has stagnated from the information provided by that website? You say the game peaked in the winter of 2011, but the information provided there shows a decline in players online during the winter of 2011. How is that a peak? Unless you're arguing that the game's lack of active players peaked in winter of 2011, in which case you might be right. Second, like baltec1 said, the website does not track subscriptions, and so we have no means of knowing exactly how many individual people are playing, but rather just the number of accounts signed in. And finally, EvE Online's subscription numbers have been steadily increasing since the game was launched. There are over 500,000 subscribed accounts, which is counter to what you're arguing. Wolfbane Hauler Inc Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
458
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Posted - 2014.05.10 21:00:00 -
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Xavier Higdon wrote:There are over 500,000 subscribed accounts An exact number would be how many names are engraved on their monument, minus those scratched out by others... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21643
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Posted - 2014.05.10 21:25:00 -
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If you used the API, how come you got every last statement wrong? And seeing as how you got them all wrong, what does this do to the credibility of your conclusion?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7358
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Posted - 2014.05.10 22:07:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.
i actually missed it what was it Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
297
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Posted - 2014.05.10 22:09:00 -
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Tippia wrote:If you used the API, how come you got every last statement wrong? And seeing as how you got them all wrong, what does this do to the credibility of your conclusion?
The problem is that in the version of reality he has created for himself, he got everything right. And having gotten everything right, his credibility is so great that he has declared himself the Oracle of EvE(probably to much applause and marked by Dinsdale Day... or however he imagines it). Wolfbane Hauler Inc Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
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Posted - 2014.05.10 23:50:00 -
[1961] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:Malcanis wrote:So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.
i actually missed it what was it
+1
which boost why when and how? "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
631
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Posted - 2014.05.11 00:23:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:Weaselior wrote:Malcanis wrote:So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.
i actually missed it what was it +1 which boost why when and how? Don't tell them, because Dinsdale, will proclaim it a stealth nerf to higsec mission runners, and we'll have another ~50 pages of tinfoil hattery from him.
EDIT: On second thought, I need a laugh this week, please continue. "it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka-á |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
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Posted - 2014.05.11 00:29:00 -
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You need to train 'Forums Warrioring" to level 5 m8. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3002
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Posted - 2014.05.11 00:39:00 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:Weaselior wrote:Malcanis wrote:So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.
i actually missed it what was it +1 which boost why when and how? Don't tell them, because Dinsdale, will proclaim it a stealth nerf to higsec mission runners, and we'll have another ~50 pages of tinfoil hattery from him. EDIT: On second thought, I need a laugh this week, please continue.
I also would like to know what this boost was to high sec mission runners. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11421
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Posted - 2014.05.11 03:42:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Who said anything about the whole 48% drop being in subs? But a portion of it is attributable to it. CCP could prove me wrong in an instant, simply by releasing the numbers....
Still waiting.
"because a 48% percent drop in players voting is ridiculous to pawn off on CSM disillusionment exclusively."
I take it you are now backtracking from that statement? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9696
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Posted - 2014.05.11 03:48:00 -
[1966] - Quote
omfg we're not breaking the PCU record every day EVE is dying "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
463
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Posted - 2014.05.11 04:18:00 -
[1967] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:omfg we're not breaking the PCU record every day EVE is dying
Nope it's not dying.
It's being killed by Goons. Especially Goon Devs ingame and Goon ISD"s on the forums.
No big deal, as Eve is becoming more boring everyday. Not bothering to sub 2 of my accounts in honor of this latest Goonie inspired "expansion".
And yeah...I'd rather be a pubbie (WTF that is I don't know and don't care) for the rest of my life then a Goonie for even an hour.
Congratulations CCP for helping the Goons to achieve their original goal....to ruin the game. Nerf Goons
Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11421
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Posted - 2014.05.11 04:23:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:omfg we're not breaking the PCU record every day EVE is dying Nope it's not dying. It's being killed by Goons. Especially Goon Devs ingame and Goon ISD"s on the forums. No big deal, as Eve is becoming more boring everyday. Not bothering to sub 2 of my accounts in honor of this latest Goonie inspired "expansion". And yeah...I'd rather be a pubbie (WTF that is I don't know and don't care) for the rest of my life then a Goonie for even an hour. Congratulations CCP for helping the Goons to achieve their original goal....to ruin the game.
How dare CCP reward greater risk! Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Beofryn Sedorak
51
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Posted - 2014.05.11 04:24:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:No big deal, as Eve is becoming more boring everyday. Not bothering to sub 2 of my accounts in honor of this latest Goonie inspired "expansion".
If anything is hurting EVE, It's ignorance like this.
The industry changes are for the benefit and longevity of the entire economy. Anything else is nothing more than a side effect. It's a shame you're incapable of comprehending this. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9697
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Posted - 2014.05.11 04:33:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:Not bothering to sub 2 of my accounts Yeah, nobody cares. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
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Posted - 2014.05.11 04:43:00 -
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buff to mission running?
c'mon.. what it was ? :P "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.05.11 05:00:00 -
[1972] - Quote
Boost, what boost? |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1113
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Posted - 2014.05.11 05:47:00 -
[1973] - Quote
Xavier Higdon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Xavier Higdon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:
They don't have to. The server has an API that we can all see, and its tracked by a website daily. The server peaked in winter of 2011, and right now there are less people on average than when I started in '08 ('09 really, started on new years eve).
So while I wont really challenge their respect or love, the business incentive is failing by the universal standard of 'growing your business is good'.
Unfortunately for them, nerfing everything repeatedly pisses people off.
And I haven't read the whole thread, but they introduced the noctis into the game and revamped marauders. Then announced they were nerfing their profession. Not a brilliant decision IMHO.
Actually, the server peaked May 5th, 2013 at 19:20:42(unknown timezone, probably EvE time) with 65,303 players online. Currently there are about 45,000 players online, which is greater than at any time in 2008 or 2009. Now, there has been a recent drop in players online in the past week or so, but that is just part of the natural ebb and flow of MMOs, and has been rectified with today's numbers. I'm unsure where you're getting your information from, but it appears to be incorrect. As I said, the API. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquilityThere is no question that the game is stagnant. Have you looked at that page? There are about 45,000 players online right now. That's greater than at any time in 2008, 2009 and 2011. How, exactly, do you infer that the game has stagnated from the information provided by that website? You say the game peaked in the winter of 2011, but the information provided there shows a decline in players online during the winter of 2011. How is that a peak? Unless you're arguing that the game's lack of active players peaked in winter of 2011, in which case you might be right. Second, like baltec1 said, the website does not track subscriptions, and so we have no means of knowing exactly how many individual people are playing, but rather just the number of accounts signed in. And finally, EvE Online's subscription numbers have been steadily increasing since the game was launched. There are over 500,000 subscribed accounts, which is counter to what you're arguing.
FFS.
The all time graph shows the average amount of players online daily. The other Graphs show the peak. The The average on the day I started was 28.8k The last average was 28.7k.
@ baltec, yeah, I realize its not the actual number of subs. However, it directly reflects the number of people playing the game. The number of people playing the game is not growing, which is critical to their business.
Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2364
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Posted - 2014.05.11 06:02:00 -
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Boost to hi-sec mission runners?
Do tell, as the faster I can earn isk doing them, the less time I can spend on them and the more time I can spend doing lo-sec pvp.
Although I never loot missions, I do understand the drop in the gains to be made to loot reprocessing as I assume it is to boost mining. This is not a signature. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9700
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Posted - 2014.05.11 06:03:00 -
[1975] - Quote
omg the average daily PCU went down 0.3% eve is dying "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2364
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Posted - 2014.05.11 06:12:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.
Do share this information with us, you know, the player base you speak on behalf of.
I have a vested interest as I want hi-sec missions to be boosted This is not a signature. |
fudface
ACME-INC
45
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Posted - 2014.05.11 06:47:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Folks, read the newest dev blog. The goons in the post are gloating in their posts, so you know it is terrible for high sec. In a few months, mission runners will now have to invest weeks and weeks of training, plus buy a hideously expensive implant, to get the privilege of a 45-50% nerf (correction from the original post, the null sec lackeys were even more vicious than I first thought) to all mission loot refines.
if CCP destroys the income streams for hisec. surely that means they will have to make hisec safer to preserve the risk reward balance? |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
1194
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Posted - 2014.05.11 07:22:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:Congratulations CCP for helping the Goons to achieve their original goal....to ruin the game.
Pretty sure their mission is to ruin *our* game, not *the* game. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1470
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Posted - 2014.05.11 08:55:00 -
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fudface wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Folks, read the newest dev blog. The goons in the post are gloating in their posts, so you know it is terrible for high sec. In a few months, mission runners will now have to invest weeks and weeks of training, plus buy a hideously expensive implant, to get the privilege of a 45-50% nerf (correction from the original post, the null sec lackeys were even more vicious than I first thought) to all mission loot refines. if CCP destroys the income streams for hisec. surely that means they will have to make hisec safer to preserve the risk reward balance? 1. you can't 'destroy' income streams for highsec: marketing will always be present unless you move all the stuff to 0.0 and make these people trade there 2. risk/reward is totally subjective measure. you can do nothing to make all the people agree with its state at any moment The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
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Posted - 2014.05.11 08:57:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.
Obligatory "wut" of the day.
"What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
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