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Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
87
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:44:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:[No I am not, it is a very simple question, either you or Mynnna is Lying, of course I and many others are going to believe Mynnna over you.
Simple fact is that you were kicked and you lied about it.
Now if what you have done, and are doing is not bad but harmless fun, why did they kick out of Goonswarm? Actually Mandarine, it's quite possible that everyone is telling the truth (I think I wrote this earlier). Ero was not in GSF, but in Widot. That means GSF could not kick him directly, but had to ask Widot to do so. As posted earlier by a separate Widot member, Ero (other character) posted to all members saying he was leaving. So GSF asked Widot to kick Ero and Ero left of his own accord as part of the internal Widot discussions. Everyone is telling the truth because to GSF it looks as though they had Ero kicked, but as part of the process within Widot, Ero actually left rather than being kicked. No lie anywhere.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Widot is a member corporation in the alliance called, you know, Goonswarm Federation. (GSF) |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
2697
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:44:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Are we just trolling this thread now?
To troll it, we would probably have to post sensibly with like facts and opinions that were of value *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Facebook would never tolerate that behaviour we are talking about" - Big Lynx |
dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1202
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:44:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Let's see if a director known for doxing many eve players gets banned because of your posting!
Would this has anything to do with the accusations of you running some ebook scam on ebay? I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Prince Kobol
1571
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:44:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:[No I am not, it is a very simple question, either you or Mynnna is Lying, of course I and many others are going to believe Mynnna over you.
Simple fact is that you were kicked and you lied about it.
Now if what you have done, and are doing is not bad but harmless fun, why did they kick out of Goonswarm? Actually Mandarine, it's quite possible that everyone is telling the truth (I think I wrote this earlier). Ero was not in GSF, but in Widot. That means GSF could not kick him directly, but had to ask Widot to do so. As posted earlier by a separate Widot member, Ero (other character) posted to all members saying he was leaving. So GSF asked Widot to kick Ero and Ero left of his own accord as part of the internal Widot discussions. Everyone is telling the truth because to GSF it looks as though they had Ero kicked, but as part of the process within Widot, Ero actually left rather than being kicked. No lie anywhere.
Nope, Mynnna said
"Erotica1 had an alt in a goon membercorp (or perhaps it was his main character, who knows) and when he brought attention to himself trying to brag about his actions we shot him in the head for it"
A number of other people within Goonswarm in this thread and on threads on other blogs have all said that he was kicked.
No one other then you and E1 is claiming that he left on his own accord. |
Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
44
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:45:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Your mistake was using the EVE client to blackmail me. You should have kept it all out of game. Like you do when you humiliate people for the purpose of your pleasure in order to try avoid any action by CCP?
As stated before, You know that holding peoples ship or assets ransom in exchange for public humiliation (ie, singing songs and making a general ass out of yourself) isnt anything exactly new to eve... |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3112
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:45:00 -
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Alp Khan wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:something like that. Or nothing like that. You can assume what you like. Tell you what, you and your cronies (some of them are most likely members of your army of alts) are pretty much the only people that have been making assumptions in this thread. On the other hand, people that are speaking against you are not assuming, they are pointing out solid facts and back them with your recordings and posts.
Projection, Dunning-Kruger, Cognitive Dissonance...
You're just packing the whole all-in-one 'full ******' posting aren't you. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
496
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:45:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:All this irrational ignorance, mouth-frothing and 'ban ero or I'll qq!!' shitposting... I take it the witch hunt is still on? the was a brief spell of levity as most of a certain continent logged off, picking up now as the European's get to work and immediately look to direct their hate somewhere. If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
47
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:46:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Are we just trolling this thread now?
Yes
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
995
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:46:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:How convenient this enlightenment coincided with E1 announcing for CSM, and not a moment in the entire year before. Actually he did. Just not under this name.
I think the player is currently banned from the forum on a different account and is using this one to bypass the ban.
That is just a suspicion, but strong enough that I am prepared to call him on it and eat my words if wrong.
Kobol is Mandarine.
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3115
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:47:00 -
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Alp Khan wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:[No I am not, it is a very simple question, either you or Mynnna is Lying, of course I and many others are going to believe Mynnna over you.
Simple fact is that you were kicked and you lied about it.
Now if what you have done, and are doing is not bad but harmless fun, why did they kick out of Goonswarm? Actually Mandarine, it's quite possible that everyone is telling the truth (I think I wrote this earlier). Ero was not in GSF, but in Widot. That means GSF could not kick him directly, but had to ask Widot to do so. As posted earlier by a separate Widot member, Ero (other character) posted to all members saying he was leaving. So GSF asked Widot to kick Ero and Ero left of his own accord as part of the internal Widot discussions. Everyone is telling the truth because to GSF it looks as though they had Ero kicked, but as part of the process within Widot, Ero actually left rather than being kicked. No lie anywhere. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Widot is a member corporation in the alliance called, you know, Goonswarm Federation. (GSF)
I'm pretty sure the entire alliance, as big as it is, isn't privy to every little detail of the goings on of corps they're not part of. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1734
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:47:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:That is the point. Some people hate the goons, other love them, many people honestly couldn't care less, however when it comes to scamming and the whole HTFU, the goons are by far top of the pile. Yet even the goons, the guys who have taken scamming to whole new level, even they find what E1 does wrong, kicked him and banned him. That should tell you something about E1's actions.
Why Goons do something tells you absolutely nothing.
Never trust a Goon. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
202
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:47:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote: So even Goonswarm, the leading group in emergent gameplay, metagaming and scamming did not agreed with your actions, that says something.
With more than 12,500 members in GSF it's a safe bet that you will find people who support Ero and others who oppose him. You could probably even find a few ignorants who never heard of him.
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Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
761
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:48:00 -
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Alp Khan wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Widot is a member corporation in the alliance called, you know, Goonswarm Federation. (GSF)
Yeah, as I'm pretty sure a CEO of a corp in an alliance can only kick players in his/her corp and not kick players from other corps in the same alliance. But you know that and are just trolling/trying to keep the flames alive.
D.
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Prince Kobol
1571
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:48:00 -
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Asia Leigh wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Your mistake was using the EVE client to blackmail me. You should have kept it all out of game. Like you do when you humiliate people for the purpose of your pleasure in order to try avoid any action by CCP? As stated before, You know that holding peoples ship or assets ransom in exchange for public humiliation (ie, singing songs and making a general ass out of yourself) isnt anything exactly new to eve...
This is okay is it?
So you admit that it is public humiliation and that is fine.
Also just because something has been going on for a while it does not make it okay.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
2703
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:49:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote: the European's get to work and immediately look to direct their hate somewhere.
And we have so very very much of it to vent
Dont you know thats why the EU was created? To help us vent our hatred outwards instead of against each other? *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Facebook would never tolerate that behaviour we are talking about" - Big Lynx |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2016
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:49:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:I'm glad Sokhar spoke out about this, it really exposed how disgusting Ripard Teg and his Moral Bunch actually are.
When the "victim" himself says it was just an overreaction, and that he's not bothered by it, it says volumes about the moral panic and claims of abuse and torture and blahblah.
It's also rather repugnant that Ripard Teg and his Moral Bunch would attempt to exploit a player who had been scammed - but got over it - and use him in their political machinations, especially when the player himself didn't want that to happen, and has suffered negative consequences of what they did.
After 7000 posts we really know who the toxic members of this community are, and the rep they have on the CSM. Golf Claps... You wouldn't happen to be a former Iraqi Information Minister would you :) Do you not realise how intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt it is to make such comparisons? Do you not understand that you just proved the point I made exactly? You, and Ripard Teg, and numerous others, attempt to demonise players you personally don't by like directly comparing them to heinous individuals who have caused real, serious human suffering. Do you not realise how that is not only a repulsive, pathetic strategy in an argument, but that it also trivialises the real human suffering you reference? That is exactly why you are toxic to this community. No, I was just comparing your ability to try to spread propaganda with his. AFAIK he didn't do anything wrong. He was just the information minister. Probably a good guy... Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Salvos Rhoska
839
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:49:00 -
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Asia Leigh wrote:As stated before, You know that holding peoples ship or assets ransom in exchange for public humiliation (ie, singing songs and making a general ass out of yourself) isnt anything exactly new to eve...
Yes.
But most agree this Bonus Room nonsense goes too far. -----For an elaboration on how Erotica1's conduct in his Bonus Room potentially constitutes torture----- https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4400219#post4400219 |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
995
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:49:00 -
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Alp Khan wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure Widot is a member corporation in the alliance called, you know, Goonswarm Federation. (GSF) Absolutely. My mistake. My apology for it.
Goonwaffe =/= Widot.
Goonwaffe couldn't kick Jaynara, only Widot could. '' |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3115
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:50:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Asia Leigh wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Your mistake was using the EVE client to blackmail me. You should have kept it all out of game. Like you do when you humiliate people for the purpose of your pleasure in order to try avoid any action by CCP? As stated before, You know that holding peoples ship or assets ransom in exchange for public humiliation (ie, singing songs and making a general ass out of yourself) isnt anything exactly new to eve... This is okay is it? So you admit that it is public humiliation and that is fine. Also just because something has been going on for a while it does not make it okay.
No, but the fact that CCP themselves have been subjected to it and not been fussed means your 'moral' outrage is irrelevant. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3115
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:51:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Asia Leigh wrote:As stated before, You know that holding peoples ship or assets ransom in exchange for public humiliation (ie, singing songs and making a general ass out of yourself) isnt anything exactly new to eve... Yes. But most agree this Bonus Room nonsense goes too far.
Please define 'most' and provide researched statistics to support up this assertion. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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Prince Kobol
1571
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:51:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Alp Khan wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Widot is a member corporation in the alliance called, you know, Goonswarm Federation. (GSF)
Yeah, as I'm pretty sure an a CEO of a corp in an alliance can only kick players in his/her corp and not kick players from other corps in the same alliance. But you know that and are just trolling/trying to keep the flames alive. D.
So what you are saying is that if a Leading Director in GSF wanted to kick you for example, he would not be allowed to and would have to have your CEO's permission first?
So your CEO could say, get lost, I am not kicking him and that GSF Director would have to live with the CEO decision? |
Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
761
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:51:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Asia Leigh wrote:As stated before, You know that holding peoples ship or assets ransom in exchange for public humiliation (ie, singing songs and making a general ass out of yourself) isnt anything exactly new to eve... Yes. But most agree this Bonus Room nonsense goes too far.
No, you and some other dudes on the forums does not equal most people.
Had time to watch this yet? Did this shedoo fellow go "over the line" by insulting and berating a fellow player? It's really important because it's the same darn thing.
D.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
496
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:52:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote: the European's get to work and immediately look to direct their hate somewhere. And we have so very very much of it to vent Dont you know thats why the EU was created? To help us vent our hatred outwards instead of against each other? pretty much
yet we still slag the French. If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
761
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:52:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Danalee wrote:Alp Khan wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Widot is a member corporation in the alliance called, you know, Goonswarm Federation. (GSF)
Yeah, as I'm pretty sure an a CEO of a corp in an alliance can only kick players in his/her corp and not kick players from other corps in the same alliance. But you know that and are just trolling/trying to keep the flames alive. D. So what you are saying is that if a Leading Director in GSF wanted to kick you for example, he would not be allowed to and would have to have your CEO's permission first? So your CEO could say, get lost, I am not kicking him and that GSF Director would have to live with the CEO decision?
Exactly. Unless that CEO would than start to threaten and harras the other CEO untill he is forced to resign his entire corp from the alliance.
D.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
2703
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:54:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote: the European's get to work and immediately look to direct their hate somewhere. And we have so very very much of it to vent Dont you know thats why the EU was created? To help us vent our hatred outwards instead of against each other? pretty much yet we still slag the French.
They love it
The whole of Western Europe is like one big Boners Room, with Germany as E1 and UK and the Scandanavians giggling in the corner while Spain, Italy and Greece QQ about how they were scammed *** Vote MTU For CSM *** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Facebook would never tolerate that behaviour we are talking about" - Big Lynx |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4853
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:55:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Danalee wrote:Alp Khan wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Widot is a member corporation in the alliance called, you know, Goonswarm Federation. (GSF)
Yeah, as I'm pretty sure an a CEO of a corp in an alliance can only kick players in his/her corp and not kick players from other corps in the same alliance. But you know that and are just trolling/trying to keep the flames alive. D. So what you are saying is that if a Leading Director in GSF wanted to kick you for example, he would not be allowed to and would have to have your CEO's permission first? So your CEO could say, get lost, I am not kicking him and that GSF Director would have to live with the CEO decision? Exactly. Unless that CEO would than start to threaten and harras the other CEO untill he is forced to resign his entire corp from the alliance. D.
The internal strife was quite amusing during that period. One could have pictured the CFC fracturing into a civil war. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
996
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:55:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:So what you are saying is that if a Leading Director in GSF wanted to kick you for example, he would not be allowed to and would have to have your CEO's permission first?
So your CEO could say, get lost, I am not kicking him and that GSF Director would have to live with the CEO decision? Mechanics wise, yes.
Politically, pressure could be applied, ultimately with an ultimatum to kick Widot from the Alliance if their conviction was strong enough.
But under the mechanics of the game, a Director in Goonwaffe could not personally remove a member of Widot. That would have to be done by someone from Widot.
'' |
Prince Kobol
1572
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:56:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Danalee wrote:Alp Khan wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Widot is a member corporation in the alliance called, you know, Goonswarm Federation. (GSF)
Yeah, as I'm pretty sure an a CEO of a corp in an alliance can only kick players in his/her corp and not kick players from other corps in the same alliance. But you know that and are just trolling/trying to keep the flames alive. D. So what you are saying is that if a Leading Director in GSF wanted to kick you for example, he would not be allowed to and would have to have your CEO's permission first? So your CEO could say, get lost, I am not kicking him and that GSF Director would have to live with the CEO decision? Exactly. D.
So why didn't the CEO of Widot tell everybody to get lost and refuse to kick E1?
E1 has stated that he was never kicked, he left of his own accord, Mynnna is saying he was kicked.
So taking what you have said, A high Level Director has gone to the CEO of Widot, told to kick him and they must of agreed otherwise E1 would still be a member.
Or of course he could of just been told by his CEO that he was getting kicked and then rushed to claim he was leaving just before the boot hit him on the ass |
Salvos Rhoska
839
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:57:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Please define 'most' and provide researched statistics to support up this assertion. Just about everyone who isn't directly profiting from the activities involved, either in the form of ISK or enjoying the recordings. You are the only ones defending this.
Even those who are concerned about slippery slope consequences of intervention, don't actually approve of what is happening in the Bonus Room.
The post history of this thread evidences that by means of the statistics of poster counts. The top posters are all associated with Erotica1 and profit from this activity. I am the only exception in that list.
The rest is independant posters, most of who have expressed they find what happens in the Bonus Room goes too far. Thats why you and others profiting from the activity constitute the rest of the posts, because you are forced to run daft amounts of damage control and interference.
You know this, I know this, everyone knows this. -----For an elaboration on how Erotica1's conduct in his Bonus Room potentially constitutes torture----- https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4400219#post4400219 |
Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
761
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:59:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:So why didn't the CEO of Widot tell everybody to get lost and refuse to kick E1? E1 has stated that he was never kicked, he left of his own accord, Mynnna is saying he was kicked. So taking what you have said, A high Level Director has gone to the CEO of Widot, told to kick him and they must of agreed otherwise E1 would still be a member. Or of course he could of just been told by his CEO that he was getting kicked and then rushed to claim he was leaving just before the boot hit him on the ass
So as someone in the know, why would you first claim he was kicked and after realising everyone to know that to be impossible by game-mecanics invent yet another spin on the same BS?
And who says the CEO of Widot didn't do just that? Say NO.
Why are you trying soooo hard?
D.
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