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Battlingbean
Perkone Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:22:00 -
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Since apparently it is so easy to make ISK that you all are willing to overpay for PLEX, I am accepting donations to help free you of your excessive ISK. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
246
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:25:00 -
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La Rynx wrote:Of course CCP is already looking for the prices of PLEX. And for the rest of the market. And of course its in CCPs interest to keep the PLEX prices high, forcing ppl to buy them with real money. CCP has professionals looking over the markets. coloring the own spaceships and let ppl pay for that is a smart move.
having HIGH plex price in game defeats its purpose.
Lets say I pay my sub for EVE with real $$ then CCP made from my sub only 14.99$ but if I had purchased a plex from the market then CCP would have made from my sub 19.99$ so in theory not paying with plex makes CCP lose money so it will be in their best interest to makes plex prices high enough but not in way that will make players not purchasing it. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:34:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:La Rynx wrote:Of course CCP is already looking for the prices of PLEX. And for the rest of the market. And of course its in CCPs interest to keep the PLEX prices high, forcing ppl to buy them with real money. CCP has professionals looking over the markets. coloring the own spaceships and let ppl pay for that is a smart move. having HIGH plex price in game defeats its purpose. Lets say I pay my sub for EVE with real $$ then CCP made from my sub only 14.99$ but if I had purchased a plex from the market then CCP would have made from my sub 19.99$ so in theory not paying with plex makes CCP lose money so it will be in their best interest to makes plex prices high enough but not in way that will make players not purchasing it.
PLEX in the market are PLEX that where already sold to other players. CCP will gladly take your 14.99$, since they spend the other money already. PLEX are some "credits" given to the market. CCPs main task would be that players would prefer to buy for RM than for ISK. PLEX is already the way to shorten your career. If i have enough money i buy PLEX and sell them to get my equip faster. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
247
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:38:00 -
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Well but if we all just paid with real $$ and people will sell plex on the market who will purchase it? and in such theoretical low demand won't prices get low to such a point everyone again will start purchase plex?
as I've said.. supply and demand. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
521
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:44:00 -
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Battlingbean wrote:Since apparently it is so easy to make ISK that you all are willing to overpay for PLEX, I am accepting donations to help free you of your excessive ISK.
I actually do often have excess ISK after plexing characters and paying the bills and if there is no obvious investment prospects will occasionally throw plex at a multi-training alt to skill it up a bit rather than let the ISK just sit round. Donating large amounts of ISK to other people however is bad for them, ISK is not that hard to come by.
Also this recent ISK hike is a matter of perspective:
MAKE IT LOOK WORSE: Hey 12 months ago you could plex for 6 billion a yaer and now it it takes 9 Billion. MAKE IT SOUND BETTER: Who cares the price increase over the last few months i s just a measly 3 million ISK a night.
Just like real life its a mattter of spin you want to put on it.
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
247
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:46:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote: MAKE IT SOUND BETTER: Who cares the price increase over the last few months i s just a measly 3 million ISK a night.
Just like real life its a mattter of spin you want to put on it.
3 mill a night? you do L1s or something? "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
521
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:51:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote: MAKE IT SOUND BETTER: Who cares the price increase over the last few months i s just a measly 3 million ISK a night.
Just like real life its a mattter of spin you want to put on it.
3 mill a night? you do L1s or something?
The price has gone up 90 mill or so over last few months. PLEX last 30 days.
Hence to PLEX now versus a few months ago you need to make an extra 3 mill a night. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20306
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:54:00 -
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What a gyp.
They're only at 701 and there are thousands of them. Where's the screaming demand for 800M PLEXes I was promised? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
247
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Posted - 2014.03.29 21:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:What a gyp. They're only at 701 and there are thousands of them. Where's the screaming demand for 800M PLEXes I was promised?
you were misled.
I would say missed the train should have got them for 500-600 mill and sell them now for 700-720 mill. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1219
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Posted - 2014.03.29 22:05:00 -
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I stil have PLEX from the times when they have been for 360M ISK. Edit signature? What's the point? |
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Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
110969
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Posted - 2014.03.29 22:26:00 -
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For the first time in months I've used rl money to sub... Normally I just plex my obscene amount of accounts...
I'm not using my *cough* hard earned isk *Cough* on plex that pricey...
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Kaivar Lancer
Biological Mechanical Unlimited
493
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Posted - 2014.03.30 00:00:00 -
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So glad I bought mine at 550m (still got a bunch hanging around).
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Motorbit
Moira. Villore Accords
34
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Posted - 2014.03.30 00:27:00 -
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all plex come from players that turn real money into isk.
i would not turn 15$ into 700m Isk. and i bet you wouldnt neither, considering the fact you dont even want to turn 15$ into 30 days gametime.
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
2116
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Posted - 2014.03.30 00:34:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:La Rynx wrote:Of course CCP is already looking for the prices of PLEX. And for the rest of the market. And of course its in CCPs interest to keep the PLEX prices high, forcing ppl to buy them with real money. CCP has professionals looking over the markets. coloring the own spaceships and let ppl pay for that is a smart move. having HIGH plex price in game defeats its purpose. Lets say I pay my sub for EVE with real $$ then CCP made from my sub only 14.99$ but if I had purchased a plex from the market then CCP would have made from my sub 19.99$ so in theory not paying with plex makes CCP lose money so it will be in their best interest to makes plex prices high enough but not in way that will make players not purchasing it.
Not even close to accurate. Having a high plex cost increases the incentive for those people who buy GTC for real $$$ to sell on the market. These are the people that CCP loves because they are spending the real world money.
By the time plex is in game CCP already got their money. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2565
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:11:00 -
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Guys guys guys I think this may be the day eve is dying. |
masternerdguy
State Protectorate Caldari State
1528
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:46:00 -
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I don't get why people are willing to grind away for a PLEX to keep playing EVE so they can do it again next month. That's why I pay with the traditional subscription model. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
52
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Posted - 2014.03.30 07:20:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:I don't get why people are willing to grind away for a PLEX to keep playing EVE so they can do it again next month. That's why I pay with the traditional subscription model.
This really depend on how you make isk |
arabella blood
Revenant Tactical
254
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Posted - 2014.03.30 08:21:00 -
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I heard plex is 3.5b on serenity. Sounds real.
No reason to keep it so low here. Hope plex will rise at least to 1b. Troll for hire. Cheap prices. |
masternerdguy
State Protectorate Caldari State
1528
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Posted - 2014.03.30 08:22:00 -
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arabella blood wrote:I heard plex is 3.5b on serenity. Sounds real.
No reason to keep it so low here. Hope plex will rise at least to 1b.
If PLEX prices reach 1b they might learn the difference between whining and complaining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPPqdbcVwM Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
5135
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Posted - 2014.03.30 08:41:00 -
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Ah crap, time to fire sale before they drop further! Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
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gomlee
NorCorp Security The Unthinkables
5
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Posted - 2014.03.30 09:12:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Its half speculation, half ship painting, and half that 10% discount they ran. You win at math!
you should google common core 2+2=5. |
xavier69
Stark Enterprises LLC
28
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:30:00 -
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To all those that claim ccp doesn't control the market that's a BIG FAT LIE. Actually CCP is mostly to blame for this mess and its dumb choices over the past 3 years.
CCP destroyed this games economy when it released PI.
Robotics went from 7k to 60k in one day. The prices of the items made with this resource did not increase to cover the cost. This destroyed a good sector of the T2 production community there are countless offline pos now in game to prove my point. Hell after CCP epic blundering the morons decided to change game mechanics to make blowing up offline pos a viable career path to help fix its mistake.
The skyrocketing price of PLEX is clearly the preamble to the end. When nobody will pay the price for PLEX its a sub game. when CCP cant make enough $$ off subs guess what its a FREE TO PLAY Game or its gone.
CCP you have constantly told your players this motto "evolve or die" time to take your own medicine go Free to play or die very soon.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4771
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:55:00 -
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I bought a PLEX today.
I needed to pull my null transport pilot out of mothballs for some stuff. Set a skill to training. JF5@29 days to complete.
So I'm thinking, I just paid 700M for 1 skill.
When you think of it like that it does seem a little expensive, I suppose.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
505
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Posted - 2014.03.31 13:13:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:La Rynx wrote:Of course CCP is already looking for the prices of PLEX. And for the rest of the market. And of course its in CCPs interest to keep the PLEX prices high, forcing ppl to buy them with real money. CCP has professionals looking over the markets. coloring the own spaceships and let ppl pay for that is a smart move. having HIGH plex price in game defeats its purpose. Lets say I pay my sub for EVE with real $$ then CCP made from my sub only 14.99$ but if I had purchased a plex from the market then CCP would have made from my sub 19.99$ so in theory not paying with plex makes CCP lose money so it will be in their best interest to makes plex prices high enough but not in way that will make players not purchasing it. Not even close to accurate. Having a high plex cost increases the incentive for those people who buy GTC for real $$$ to sell on the market. These are the people that CCP loves because they are spending the real world money. By the time plex is in game CCP already got their money. well, it is actually cheaper to buy GTC then convert in plex then activate said plex than paying the sub.
sub: 15Gé¼ / month 1 PLEX: 20Gé¼ 60 days GTC: 35$ (25Gé¼) |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5659
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Posted - 2014.03.31 14:11:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I bought a PLEX today. I needed to pull my null transport pilot out of mothballs for some stuff. Set a skill to training. JF5@29 days to complete. So I'm thinking, I just paid 700M for 1 skill. When you think of it like that it does seem a little expensive, I suppose. Mr Epeen
It's 700 mil to fly a ship that costs as much as 7 carriers that can both use gates as well as jump vast distances while carrying enough stuff to fuel a small war for a couple months. I'd say 700 mil is a deal for that. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5659
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Posted - 2014.03.31 14:18:00 -
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Adoris Nolen wrote:masternerdguy wrote:I don't get why people are willing to grind away for a PLEX to keep playing EVE so they can do it again next month. That's why I pay with the traditional subscription model. This really depend on how you make isk
Exactly. A plex is one good drop from a DED plex or an evening of incursion running (which happens for me frequently as the wife works nights).
Why wouldn't you trade one night of game playing (while damn near butt nekkid and drinking bear) for 29 'free' nights of butt nekkid beer drinking game playing? |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2014.03.31 14:18:00 -
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xavier69 wrote:To all those that claim ccp doesn't control the market that's a BIG FAT LIE. Actually CCP is mostly to blame for this mess and its dumb choices over the past 3 years.
CCP destroyed this games economy when it released PI.
Robotics went from 7k to 60k in one day. The prices of the items made with this resource did not increase to cover the cost. This destroyed a good sector of the T2 production community there are countless offline pos now in game to prove my point. Hell after CCP epic blundering the morons decided to change game mechanics to make blowing up offline pos a viable career path to help fix its mistake.
The skyrocketing price of PLEX is clearly the preamble to the end. When nobody will pay the price for PLEX its a sub game. when CCP cant make enough $$ off subs guess what its a FREE TO PLAY Game or its gone.
CCP you have constantly told your players this motto "evolve or die" time to take your own medicine go Free to play or die very soon.
Then let's revive the destroyed economy!
TINFOIL HATS! NEW AND USED TINFOIL HATS FOR SALE ONLY NINE NINETY NINE!!
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Eto Tekai
Basgerin Pirate SCUM.
57
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Posted - 2014.03.31 15:19:00 -
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I can't be the only one who is letting one of my accounts lapse due to the high prices.
That leads to less ships being bought, less people out and about creating content.
Every time I hear they are adding something else that utilizes the plex I cringe. You guys can argue all day about paying for your sub, but I pay for 2 and plex one, and have for years now.
This will do damage to the game, and the players online tally will continue to dwindle until plex are reasonable again. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.03.31 16:48:00 -
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Eto Tekai wrote:I can't be the only one who is letting one of my accounts lapse due to the high prices.
That leads to less ships being bought, less people out and about creating content.
Every time I hear they are adding something else that utilizes the plex I cringe. You guys can argue all day about paying for your sub, but I pay for 2 and plex one, and have for years now.
This will do damage to the game, and the players online tally will continue to dwindle until plex are reasonable again. As it did every time people whined about high prices.
I, for one, am happy to buy GTCs to turn into ISK! :D
Anyhow ... I agree that highsec and faction warfare need to be nerfed, just so people who can only read the upper line of this sentence have something to rage about.
I really need to fix my gigantic forehead. |
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