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Iron Breaker
Banana Mining Inc. Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:50:00 -
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So I joined a new corp. and am learning my way around null sec. The thing is, Drone space REALLY seems to suck for ratting; no loot on most of them and the bounties are worse then a level three mission. I was guessing I must be running the wrong sites or something I tried looking on the inter-web, but can't seem to get any good information.
I am in a -0.1 system and there is a -0.4 next door. Where and what sites should I be looking for to get some loot, or good bounties?
Or, does Drone space just suck? If so, perhaps we should change it to Waste of Space... lol. |
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
440
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:53:00 -
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Iron Breaker wrote:So I joined a new corp. and am learning my way around null sec. The thing is, Drone space REALLY seems to suck for ratting; no loot on most of them and the bounties are worse then a level three mission. I was guessing I must be running the wrong sites or something I tried looking on the inter-web, but can't seem to get any good information.
I am in a -0.1 system and there is a -0.4 next door. Where and what sites should I be looking for to get some loot, or good bounties?
Or, does Drone space just suck? If so, perhaps we should change it to Waste of Space... lol.
yup, Drone Space used to be way OP, and used to supply 50-80% (depending on who you ask) of the Morphite in all of Emire space, along with a lot of the other minerals.
CCP destroyed that, and now Drone Space is, well........
just what you think it is. |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
1643
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:13:00 -
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... waits for the howls and screams of "Nerf Empire" to begin... because everyone knows that breaking Empire is the easiest way to fix everything else in the game without actually doing anything constructive.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3148
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:18:00 -
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They need to come out with some unique resource there...
Maybe some kind of drone-based ship BPCs you can get and build with drone parts (mini carriers?). Maybe NPC drones that follow you around? I feel like it's a wast of potential lore, uniqueness, and space atm.
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Iron Breaker
Banana Mining Inc. Brothers of Tangra
10
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:28:00 -
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I was really hoping for some good news... I am suddenly very bummed out by my null sec adventure... |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
613
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:30:00 -
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Find the systems which have a military index of 5 and run the anomalies. The guys in your corp, or in your alliance should be able to give you some tips. They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
856
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:35:00 -
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Ya CCP kicked Drones in the nuts a while back when they removed the drone poop to better involve mining in the mineral market, despite the fact that mining in LS and NS was and still is largely nonexistent as a market driver, and takes a back seat to "gun mining" and loot reprocessing. (which they plan to nerf this summer to increase mining market, despite people still not mining the ore for the minerals anyway.)
They just added Nexus Chips for SOE stuff to drones, although from everything ive seen and heard the drop rate is pretty low, and hardly makes DR any more self sustaining.
Best to just get an alt and stick in HS and run missions if you need isk while living in Drones, because that is what everyone else who has ever lived in drones did when the Drone Poo nerf happened.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
273
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:35:00 -
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It does seem rather odd to me at least that CCP voted to simply remove drone alloys and give them crap bounty rather than give them something in the way of loot.
No doubt, the alloys needed to go. Maybe they ought to move EoM in that area to spice things up a little. Probably wouldn't make sense lore-wise, but what the hell, crap bounty and no loot seems like a big f-you to anyone living in that area.
Edit: Just remembered the SOE Nexus chips thing. Question is, is that enough? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4623
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:39:00 -
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Gogela wrote:They need to come out with some unique resource there...
Maybe some kind of drone-based ship BPCs you can get and build with drone parts (mini carriers?). Maybe NPC drones that follow you around? I feel like it's a wast of potential lore, uniqueness, and space atm.
I think now drones drop some special nexus chip that can be turned in for SoE faction ships.
But the ratio and such I have not looked up. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:43:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Ya CCP kicked Drones in the nuts a while back when they removed the drone poop to better involve mining in the mineral market, despite the fact that mining in LS and NS was and still is largely nonexistent as a market driver, and takes a back seat to "gun mining" and loot reprocessing. (which they plan to nerf this summer to increase mining market, despite people still not mining the ore for the minerals anyway.)
They just added Nexus Chips for SOE stuff to drones, although from everything ive seen and heard the drop rate is pretty low, and hardly makes DR any more self sustaining.
Best to just get an alt and stick in HS and run missions if you need isk while living in Drones, because that is what everyone else who has ever lived in drones did when the Drone Poo nerf happened.
The Nexus Chips drop rate are very low or none at all the only thing they drop are the Ancillary BPC from time to time.
I am not a CCP employee-ájust having a input in the EvE forum
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Prt Scr
569th Freelancers Eternal Evocations
25
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Posted - 2014.03.31 00:25:00 -
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As I understand the current null sec politics , you are a renter, expect a ***** ****** ******* god awful system and to get regular prostrate examination from your landlord
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Dagar Bly
EvE Character Portrait REDUX
24
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Posted - 2014.03.31 00:29:00 -
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Lowsec/drone space needs 1 man sites that give 4 or 5 maybe high bounty rats, so people have a reason to go there, it would also increase good fights. More than 1 man entering the site would be contesting the site, if people could make something as little as 50 million Isk/HR, they would probably go try it.
http://eveportraitcontest.webs.com |
Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Black Core Alliance
1453
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Posted - 2014.03.31 00:59:00 -
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Drone regions are pretty crappy. If you mine or rat in upgraded systems, they are fine since the ores are the same in the industry belts and the loss of loot is made up with better bounties.
That said, the hacking sites are pathetic, the combat sites are pathetic, plexes are pathetic, and there are no loot drops requiring you to rely on logistics more than anything else. You can still have fun there you just need to learn to live without that stuff.
Get into PVP some and you'll be ok since most people consider Drone regions "renter regions" and full of nullbears who don't like PVP. You'll have plenty of targets. GÇ£Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do. GÇ¥ - Dale Carnegie
Maximze your Industry Potential! - Download EVE Isk per Hour! |
Iron Breaker
Banana Mining Inc. Brothers of Tangra
10
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Posted - 2014.03.31 01:06:00 -
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So I just ran a Drone Patrol site.... kind of disappointing. Cash was about the same as running a level 4, but no drops ... shouldn't null sec be better then a level 4 mission? |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
856
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Posted - 2014.03.31 01:30:00 -
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Iron Breaker wrote:So I just ran a Drone Patrol site.... kind of disappointing. Cash was about the same as running a level 4, but no drops ... shouldn't null sec be better then a level 4 mission?
It is in pretty much everywhere but the drones. |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
159
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Posted - 2014.03.31 01:39:00 -
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Drones need to drop faction and officer Drone Damage Amps so my Ishtar can do even more DPS. Also the other drone modules. And some drone implants. +drone speed implants or +drone armor implants. Drops for the Dominix with all the little arms and antennae would be sweet too. |
Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
533
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Posted - 2014.03.31 02:14:00 -
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Drone Regions is very profitable, but you have to be smarter than the average bear. |
Iron Breaker
Banana Mining Inc. Brothers of Tangra
10
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Posted - 2014.03.31 02:16:00 -
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I just realized it is actually worse in drone space as opposed to flying missions, at least when you do missions you get LP...For drones you don't get anything... I suddenly feel like I am getting ripped off. |
Muestereate
Minions LLC
267
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Posted - 2014.03.31 02:51:00 -
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Iron Breaker wrote:So I just ran a Drone Patrol site.... kind of disappointing. Cash was about the same as running a level 4, but no drops ... shouldn't null sec be better then a level 4 mission?
No, but without having to loot you can just run for bounties. They did put some nexxus chips for SOE ships, Haven't heard anybody finding them yet. Think of it as a beginner system, no one wants the space and its uncomplicated, Just learn null and move on down the road.
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Nimrod vanHall
Martyr's Vengence Nulli Secunda
74
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Posted - 2014.03.31 08:19:00 -
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Drone space is great for mining, the spawned ore sites are the same as everywere and due to the lack of nearby npc null or even non N3/PL owned space you can really mine in peace as opposed to say fountain. Fountain has alot better rats, but its close low sec and thus pvp daytrippers and has the fountain ore residents. who will drop on all regulair mining fleets. |
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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
892
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Posted - 2014.03.31 09:09:00 -
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Iron Breaker wrote:I just realized it is actually worse in drone space as opposed to flying missions, at least when you do missions you get LP...For drones you don't get anything... I suddenly feel like I am getting ripped off.
The SoE chips are good if u find them. Getting a free nestor would be major profit. (they drop from the sentient spawns) I believe if you follow the escalations you get a ton of T2 salvage at the end of it. I have never tried though because i ignore the drone sites and run the guristas ones. I run sites in space other people rent/ pay sov for. It i much cheaper than owning/renting sov yourself and it i very hard to lock people out of npc null stations so my assets are 100% secure.
I do have some good news though. As a rentor tons of people will show up to shoot at you so you should get easy access to fun PVP without having to search too hard. The only point to isk is to replace pvp losses anyway. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Bael Malefic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.31 11:12:00 -
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Genuinely useful thread. Was wondering why the various drone anoms and sites I'd been running lately were so pants. Now I know :-( |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
593
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Posted - 2014.03.31 11:20:00 -
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Not much has changed ever since the Drone alloy removal it seems, a shame.
Tbh, some form loot in the form of those parts to build augmented drones would make for a neat change. Would see augmented drones used more, as currently you can't justify the cost to built one as the T2 is much cheaper & readily avaible.
All the stuff for augmented drones(parts & BPC) are there already, just seeing those drops expanded in the drone loot table would help alot I would think. Would also make alot of sense lorewise that capsuleers living in the Drone Regions would experiment more with augmenting drones, as they see all these bizarre drones doing things their standard drones can't do. -áDucia Foundry profits on the decline due to Capsuleer competition! -á First year anniversary of the Caldari Prime battle was a success! |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1405
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Posted - 2014.03.31 11:25:00 -
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Iron Breaker wrote:I was really hoping for some good news... I am suddenly very bummed out by my null sec adventure... if you are in 0.0 just to farm ISK then i'm sorry for you......
However 0.0 is more than just farm ISK. Just take a look around The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Black Core Alliance
1453
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Posted - 2014.03.31 11:35:00 -
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Iron Breaker wrote:I just realized it is actually worse in drone space as opposed to flying missions, at least when you do missions you get LP...For drones you don't get anything... I suddenly feel like I am getting ripped off. Put up an ESS, more isk and you get lps too. GÇ£Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do. GÇ¥ - Dale Carnegie
Maximze your Industry Potential! - Download EVE Isk per Hour! |
Iron Breaker
Banana Mining Inc. Brothers of Tangra
10
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Posted - 2014.03.31 12:27:00 -
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What is ESS?
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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
710
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Posted - 2014.03.31 15:14:00 -
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Iron Breaker wrote:What is ESS?
I like your name.
Nulla Curas |
Iron Breaker
Banana Mining Inc. Brothers of Tangra
11
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Posted - 2014.04.01 02:33:00 -
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Still not sure what ESS is...
In any case, I was able to talk to some people and find the sites with better bounties... but my next question is...
If I scan down a site in drone space, complexes I heard they are called, is there any cool loot / items to be had from them in drone space? |
Matthew Clearwater
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.01 02:42:00 -
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Iron Breaker wrote:Still not sure what ESS is...
In any case, I was able to talk to some people and find the sites with better bounties... but my next question is...
If I scan down a site in drone space, complexes I heard they are called, is there any cool loot / items to be had from them in drone space?
I had that question once. The answer I got was "They have a chance to drop something from any of the factions." It got me excited to run them. A few in, realized I may have been trolled. |
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