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Erasmus Phoenix
Balls to the Walls No Response
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:56:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2.
Good call, I don't really see any problems with this, other than the possibility of someone training up combat drone operation I and scout drone operation V in order to get the best possible return. I'll probably be doing that on a couple of my alts-in-training, to be honest. |
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CCP Lebowski
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:04:00 -
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You sir, are asking the real questions here!
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
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Maz3r Rakum
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
46
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:05:00 -
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Not sure if this is mentioned elsewhere, but seeing the Sentry Damage Rig changed to a Drone Damage rig would make a lot of sense (or merely add a combat drone damage rig).
Before DDA, the Sentry Damage Rig was the only way to increase any drone's dps (limited to sentries of course). Now that drones have similar mods to the other weapons, it would make sense that all combat drones have a similar t2 rig. |
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society Affirmative.
329
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:06:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in both Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2. Which skill will now cover Drone Link Augmentors? Will that move over to the Avionics skill?
Heh, just noticed "Black Eagle Drone Link Augmentor" is already listed there, as only module that requires Scout Drone Operation. |
Callisto Helix
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
11
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:07:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in both Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2.
Just to make sure I'm reading this correctly, I have Scout Drone Operation V & Combat Drone Operation IV currently. When the expansion goes live I'll have Light & Medium Drone Operation both at V? |
Altaen
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
113
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:12:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in both Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2.
Will Drone Interfacing still be 5x training multiplier in it's new diminished form? |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2039
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:19:00 -
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Mostly good changes
Now can we have drone AI that isn't composed of a few simple scripts? :P BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Rikard Nomm
Black Omega Security Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:20:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in both Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2.
great. wasted a day of training on 2 characters plugging in CDO V yesterday and both already have SDO V. now im at work and cant stop it for the rest of the day.
whelp, DI V, Sentry V, Heavy V are feeling like a bit of wasted SP on my 13m SP char now and now i get to burn 2 more days on a skill that i dont need at all! Yay! |
Cisen Ormand
4 Marketeers Rura-Penthe
0
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:29:00 -
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Quote:Just to make sure I'm reading this correctly, I have Scout Drone Operation V & Combat Drone Operation IV currently. When the expansion goes live I'll have Light & Medium Drone Operation both at V?
I also would like conformation on this. I am in the same situation (scout drone op 5, combat drone op 4.)
After the update Ill have light and medium drone op both at 5 and now will suddenly be able to fit the T2 drone link augmenter?
Please confirm. Thanks. |
Ruric Thyase
Star Frontiers Test Alliance Please Ignore
25
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Posted - 2014.04.03 15:52:00 -
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Rikard Nomm wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in both Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2. great. wasted a day of training on 2 characters plugging in CDO V yesterday and both already have SDO V. now im at work and cant stop it for the rest of the day. whelp, DI V, Sentry V, Heavy V are feeling like a bit of wasted SP on my 13m SP char now and now i get to burn 2 more days on a skill that i dont need at all! Yay!
This. Put in CDO V to get ahead of the patch like when they separated the BC skill into racials. I can say Rikard that once you reach a certain number of skill points, losing 1 day doesn't really matter and you come to cherish the times when it only takes a week to train the skill to V
On an unrelated note this whole thread has been rather amusing. |
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Erasmus Phoenix
Balls to the Walls No Response
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:01:00 -
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Cisen Ormand wrote:Quote:Just to make sure I'm reading this correctly, I have Scout Drone Operation V & Combat Drone Operation IV currently. When the expansion goes live I'll have Light & Medium Drone Operation both at V? I also would like conformation on this. I am in the same situation (scout drone op 5, combat drone op 4.) After the update Ill have light and medium drone op both at 5 and now will suddenly be able to fit the T2 drone link augmenter? Please confirm. Thanks.
They haven't said what will unlock the link augmenter after the change, I'm curious about that in particular. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20440
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:29:00 -
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Erasmus Phoenix wrote:They haven't said what will unlock the link augmenter after the change, I'm curious about that in particular. Drone Avionics, most likely, since it ties in with what the actual module does GÇö same as now. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
705
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:34:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in both Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2.
you have barely answered any questions in this thread ...
- drone control range can you increase it? (i went into more detail in another post) and add it to attributes tab please - can we have drones being fixed in dronebay? maybe using nanite paste kinda like burnt guns etc.. - can we have more drone skills? falloff, orbit velocity, tracking etc.. - how about drones op/falloff (i went into more detail in another post) and shield/armour HP values reflecting their actual races? - will you sort out the excessive sig radius on drones?
Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
705
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:35:00 -
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Erasmus Phoenix wrote:Cisen Ormand wrote:Quote:Just to make sure I'm reading this correctly, I have Scout Drone Operation V & Combat Drone Operation IV currently. When the expansion goes live I'll have Light & Medium Drone Operation both at V? I also would like conformation on this. I am in the same situation (scout drone op 5, combat drone op 4.) After the update Ill have light and medium drone op both at 5 and now will suddenly be able to fit the T2 drone link augmenter? Please confirm. Thanks. They haven't said what will unlock the link augmenter after the change, I'm curious about that in particular.
the DLA's should really use the new drone avionics skill
DLA T1 - drone avionics DLA T2 - advanced drone avionics Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:42:00 -
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Harvey James wrote: - drone control range can you increase it? (i went into more detail in another post) and add it to attributes tab please
With sentry-fit carriers stacking Drone Link Augmentors and Omnidirectional Tracking Links, sentries were able to project damage out to 170km. It's unlikely that an increase to base drone range is in the cards. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20440
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:43:00 -
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Harvey James wrote:the DLA's should really use the new drone avionics skill
DLA T1 - drone avionics DLA T2 - advanced drone avionics There's no reason why the requirements should change from what they are now. It's still the same module relying on the same skill GÇö only the name has changed. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Rikard Nomm
Black Omega Security Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:47:00 -
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Ruric Thyase wrote:Rikard Nomm wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in both Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2. great. wasted a day of training on 2 characters plugging in CDO V yesterday and both already have SDO V. now im at work and cant stop it for the rest of the day. whelp, DI V, Sentry V, Heavy V are feeling like a bit of wasted SP on my 13m SP char now and now i get to burn 2 more days on a skill that i dont need at all! Yay! This. Put in CDO V to get ahead of the patch like when they separated the BC skill into racials. I can say Rikard that once you reach a certain number of skill points, losing 1 day doesn't really matter and you come to cherish the times when it only takes a week to train the skill to V On an unrelated note this whole thread has been rather amusing.
im not too bummed about a day or 2. its just like an extra kick while your already down. Ive put off training for a few commonly flown corp doctrines to finish out my drone skills due to my current attribute map and now its all feeling a bit wasted. |
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
705
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:48:00 -
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Querns wrote:Harvey James wrote: - drone control range can you increase it? (i went into more detail in another post) and add it to attributes tab please
With sentry-fit carriers stacking Drone Link Augmentors and Omnidirectional Tracking Links, sentries were able to project damage out to 170km. It's unlikely that an increase to base drone range is in the cards.
well they can easily remove some highs from carriers if they want Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Kadar Yassavi
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:54:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in both Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2. Maybe you should reimburse the skill points of the skill that won't be used for the convertion.
For example if I have Scout Drone Operation to V and Combat Drone Operation to IV, the new skills will be adjusted to my Scout Drone Operation skill level and the skillpoints of my Combat Drone Operation skill will go to the allocatable skillpoint pool. And if we have both at V currently of course you should reimburse the skillpoints of the higher ranked Combat Drone Operations (of course! :D).
That way it won't feel like you've wasted skill time in the past if you maxed both skills. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
352
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:02:00 -
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Jet get rid of the racial differences between the drones. Give them the same base speed, tracking, damage, etc. then make the racial specs affect different stats based on racial characteristics.
Gallente Drone Spec - 5% per level to all drone tracking speed Minmatar Drone Spec - 5% per level to all drone falloff Amarr Drone Spec - 4% per level to all drone armor resists Caldari Drone Spec - 4% per level to all drone shield resists http://eveion.blogspot.com/ |
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Pesadel0
the muppets DARKNESS.
84
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:08:00 -
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Javon Bars wrote:So previously shield-based supercapitals were already the strongest supers in the game. You "balance" this by making them even stronger?
Sounds legit.
I think the biggest joke is the dev saying that grath doesn't know how to sov grind works and then saying that the intended fix was to boost the caldari super ,thinking that she was the worst super, and admitting that she needed a buff.
Holly crap ....
To summarize the thread the shield supers will be top dog for now because they can have more damage and have more tank .
Fine by me i will just switch to shield supers , overpowered suits me fine. |
Icylce
The Chosen 0nes DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:09:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in both Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2. This sound like a sanction to the players, who have both skills trained to 5. Just simple 1:1 would be enough Imho. Or reimburse the lost training time with SP, I train one rank 1 skill to lvl 5 and rank 2 to lvl 1 and will be getting rank 1 and rank 2 skill lvl 5? Thats 500k SP difference (aprox). I dont see how u could justify this, without reimbursing the players with proper training. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20440
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:09:00 -
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Kadar Yassavi wrote:That way it won't feel like you've wasted skill time in the past if you maxed both skills. The only way for you to have wasted any time was if you never actually used the skills. No matter what, you will come out ahead in this deal. If some people come out GÇ£more aheadGÇ¥ than others, so what? If you trained those skills, your drones were better GÇö they were never a waste.
Asking or a refund of SP when you're already getting at least 50% more than you had before is a bit sillyGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Masao Kurata
Z List
48
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:20:00 -
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Icylce wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in both Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2. This sound like a sanction to the players, who have both skills trained to 5. Just simple 1:1 would be enough Imho. Or reimburse the lost training time with SP, I train one rank 1 skill to lvl 5 and rank 2 to lvl 1 and will be getting rank 1 and rank 2 skill lvl 5? Thats 500k SP difference (aprox). I dont see how u could justify this, without reimbursing the players with proper training.
Kindly think about how bad it is for players who start playing AFTER this patch. They will have to invest 1,024,000 SP to get the same skills as you put in 768,000 for so don't ask for SP reimbursement on top of that advantage. |
Icylce
The Chosen 0nes DARKNESS.
33
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:32:00 -
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Masao Kurata wrote:Icylce wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Sorry for the delay in answering some of the skill questions guys.
As many of you have suggested, we'll be giving pilots the same level in both Light Drone Operation and Medium Drone Operation as the highest level they have in either Scout Drone Operation or Combat Drone Operation over the patch downtime.
The Light Drone Operation skill will be rank 1, the Medium Drone Operation skill will be rank 2. This sound like a sanction to the players, who have both skills trained to 5. Just simple 1:1 would be enough Imho. Or reimburse the lost training time with SP, I train one rank 1 skill to lvl 5 and rank 2 to lvl 1 and will be getting rank 1 and rank 2 skill lvl 5? Thats 500k SP difference (aprox). I dont see how u could justify this, without reimbursing the players with proper training. Kindly think about how bad it is for players who start playing AFTER this patch. They will have to invest 1,024,000 SP to get the same skills as you put in 768,000 for so don't ask for SP reimbursement on top of that advantage.
Thats why this solution is bad. As u pointed out The players who join after patch will have to train 1024k instead of 768k I did for example. But others may have trained only 256k sp and will be getting the same amoun as I will. This is bad sollution and if they go this route, I feel they should reimburse the players who invested their time to train up.
However I do believe that they should distribute the skills in 1:1 ratio., meaning they would give u "just" the same lvl of the skill of coresponding rank u had already trained. |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
634
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:34:00 -
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Harvey James wrote: well they can easily remove some highs from carriers if they want
Would rather gimp triage carriers if they did that enough to make any odds in regards to drone control units so not so easily really.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20440
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:38:00 -
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Icylce wrote:Thats why this solution is bad. As u pointed out The players who join after patch will have to train 1024k instead of 768k I did for example. But others may have trained only 256k sp and will be getting the same amoun as I will. This is bad sollution and if they go this route, I feel they should reimburse the players who invested their time to train up.
However I do believe that they should distribute the skills in 1:1 ratio., meaning they would give u "just" the same lvl of the skill of coresponding rank u had already trained. Removing ability from players is a far worse solution than giving some people 512k SP and others GÇ£onlyGÇ¥ 256k. No matter what, you come out ahead. No matter what, the skills you trained weren't wasted.
Since you don't lose any abilities, there's really nothing to reimburse. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Oddsodz
The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:45:00 -
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Quote:all Supercarriers will receive a 100% damage bonus to Fighter and Fighter Bomber damage,
Does the mean that to Sansha variant Supercarrier The Revenant be getting a buff of an extra 100% damage bonus on top of the current one it has right now?
If I am right, This would mean that it will become worth owning for its damage output and not just a 300bill toy of pride ;-)
Or I am bad at Eve numbers? |
Icylce
The Chosen 0nes DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:47:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Icylce wrote:Thats why this solution is bad. As u pointed out The players who join after patch will have to train 1024k instead of 768k I did for example. But others may have trained only 256k sp and will be getting the same amoun as I will. This is bad sollution and if they go this route, I feel they should reimburse the players who invested their time to train up.
However I do believe that they should distribute the skills in 1:1 ratio., meaning they would give u "just" the same lvl of the skill of coresponding rank u had already trained. Removing ability from players is a far worse solution than giving some people 512k SP and others GÇ£onlyGÇ¥ 256k. No matter what, you come out ahead. No matter what, the skills you trained weren't wasted. Since you don't lose any abilities, there's really nothing to reimburse. They already are removing ability of player to use t2 sentries. Skills were not but the time was. And time is the most valuable resource. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2039
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:48:00 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote: You sir, are asking the real questions here!
Yes
CCP should add LaTeX support for the forums so that i can post a proof for that =< BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
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