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Illiana Freir
The Firm Hand
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Posted - 2014.04.02 09:28:00 -
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Not quite sure that this is a new thing but recently I have been seeing quite a few isoboxing gankers. Reason for me believing that they are isoboxing is that they are named something and with a number at the end all of them doing the exact same thing at the same time. While this is not so much about the fact that people do it since well both miners and mission runners do it as well.
But what do you think of isoboxing gankers so they can alone take down larger targets? It seems quite clear that most of the community is against isoboxing miners so I am just curious now it will reason around this. |
Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
3517
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Posted - 2014.04.02 10:56:00 -
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Illiana Freir wrote:Not quite sure that this is a new thing but recently I have been seeing quite a few isoboxing gankers. Reason for me believing that they are isoboxing is that they are named something and with a number at the end all of them doing the exact same thing at the same time. While this is not so much about the fact that people do it since well both miners and mission runners do it as well.
But what do you think of isoboxing gankers so they can alone take down larger targets? It seems quite clear that most of the community is against isoboxing miners so I am just curious now it will reason around this.
hmmm.. I have not ready about people being against ISKBOXING Miners.... Just ISK BOXING as an application itself. How it used and for what matters little to me.
Other people however seems to have a major pet peeve about it. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Illiana Freir
The Firm Hand
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:00:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Illiana Freir wrote:Not quite sure that this is a new thing but recently I have been seeing quite a few isoboxing gankers. Reason for me believing that they are isoboxing is that they are named something and with a number at the end all of them doing the exact same thing at the same time. While this is not so much about the fact that people do it since well both miners and mission runners do it as well.
But what do you think of isoboxing gankers so they can alone take down larger targets? It seems quite clear that most of the community is against isoboxing miners so I am just curious now it will reason around this. hmmm.. I have not ready about people being against ISKBOXING Miners.... Just ISK BOXING as an application itself. How it used and for what matters little to me. Other people however seems to have a major pet peeve about it. Well I fully agree with you here, if you cant play the game without the application then you should not play that many accounts at the same time is my stand point.
The reason for me bringing this up was due to that yesterday I say quite a few blobs of ships undock at the same time and all had the same profile more or less Nickname1, Nickname2 and so on and they did the exact same things.
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Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:06:00 -
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Illiana Freir wrote:Not quite sure that this is a new thing but recently I have been seeing quite a few isoboxing gankers. Reason for me believing that they are isoboxing is that they are named something and with a number at the end all of them doing the exact same thing at the same time. While this is not so much about the fact that people do it since well both miners and mission runners do it as well.
But what do you think of isoboxing gankers so they can alone take down larger targets? It seems quite clear that most of the community is against isoboxing miners so I am just curious now it will reason around this. I disapprove of ISBOXing in general, though using it for ganking is hilarious imo.
Why do I disapprove? Cuz it gives too big an advantage to players using it. It lets players control much more ships effectively than anyone could do without.
Yesyes, I know the same goes for a lot of other tools but those are not up for discussion in this thread, make your own :P |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2993
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:21:00 -
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I approve of ISBoxer. The amount of tears it generates through it's existence alone makes it worth it. If it stopped existing people would have to put more effort into finding things to cry about and our tear cups may run dry. It would be a bleak outcome. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
152
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:44:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I approve of ISBoxer. The amount of tears it generates through it's existence alone makes it worth it. If it stopped existing people would have to put more effort into finding things to cry about and our tear cups may run dry. It would be a bleak outcome.
+1
Like there are people in eve with one account lol. |
Forum Clone 77777
Do You Even Irony Broew
237
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Posted - 2014.04.02 12:41:00 -
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Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:
Yesyes, I know the same goes for a lot of other tools but those are not up for discussion in this thread, make your own :P
Wow, man this is like, trolling unintentionally at a new level.
Derail the thread in your own post, then tell everyone to make their own threads about the the stuff you derailed it into.. In the same post.. Before anyone even responds.. Just wow |
WouldYouEver HaveSexWith aGoat
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:08:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I approve of ISBoxer. The amount of tears it generates through it's existence alone makes it worth it. If it stopped existing people would have to put more effort into finding things to cry about and our tear cups may run dry. It would be a bleak outcome. I have a simple question for you.
Are you 16 years old? |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
77
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:18:00 -
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Oska Rus wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:I approve of ISBoxer. The amount of tears it generates through it's existence alone makes it worth it. If it stopped existing people would have to put more effort into finding things to cry about and our tear cups may run dry. It would be a bleak outcome. +1 Like there are people in eve with one account lol.
What's wrong with having 1 account? I can do anything at 145m sp minus cyno jumping myself and I don't fly cap ships despite having all if the cap skills. "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
557
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:20:00 -
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ISBoxing is extremely common, and most pve-activities such as mining, running vanguards or ganking freighters are best done with it.
Of course people use it ;) "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1681
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:44:00 -
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I'd be happy if CCP banned isboxer and all its ilk. But until that day, I see no reason why gankers shouldn't make use of all the tools available in the game. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Dreadchain
Lavateinn
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:20:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:I'd be happy if CCP banned isboxer and all its ilk. But until that day, I see no reason why gankers shouldn't make use of all the tools available in the game.
I'd go as far as to encourage people to isobox gank so CCP has to ban such software. www.minerbumping.com |
Clio Fenatti
Tekniks
9
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:20:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:I'd be happy if CCP banned isboxer and all its ilk. But until that day, I see no reason why gankers shouldn't make use of all the tools available in the game.
this.
also, inb4 double standards |
Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
276
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:36:00 -
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But banning this would cut every major nullsec alliance's forces by about 2/3, it would be chaos! The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
539
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:12:00 -
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isboxing gankers are no worse than isboxing miners.... Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Agatho Daimon
Intoxicated Earnings
1
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:48:00 -
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I personally approve of the software. Only the people who do not have the resource and/or skill to use it are the ones bitching. If you could do it, you would :) |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4336
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:52:00 -
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While I would personally like to see that software unilaterally banned, I heartily approve of turning a carebear's tools back on him.
So big props. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2433
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:53:00 -
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WouldYouEver HaveSexWith aGoat wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:I approve of ISBoxer. The amount of tears it generates through it's existence alone makes it worth it. If it stopped existing people would have to put more effort into finding things to cry about and our tear cups may run dry. It would be a bleak outcome. I have a simple question for you. Are you 16 years old?
Read your comment, groaned.
Then read your name.
I'm laughing far too loud for my workplace. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2434
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:55:00 -
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Dreadchain wrote:
I'd go as far as to encourage people to isobox gank so CCP has to ban such software.
If I had the hardware necessary to run ISObox with a lot of accounts, and the accounts to run, I would be running a one-person hellcamp somewhere for exactly that reason. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Tear Jar
The Conference Elite CODE.
79
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:15:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:our tear cups may run dry.
You have persuaded me to support ISboxer. |
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Kathtrine
Ark University ArK Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.03 07:42:00 -
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Tear Jar wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:our tear cups may run dry. You have persuaded me to support ISboxer.
Irony? CODE supporting a BOT tool?
Even I am apposed to any Macro-Mining/Ganking or other use of a device that is outside the game that directly effects gameplay.
CCP ban ISboxer please.
EDIT: for clarity. If your griefing about EvE online and still paying for it, your hooked and CCP has done thier job.
Now go blow somebodies ship up and stop whining about whatever your are lacking. |
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
352
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Posted - 2014.04.03 09:11:00 -
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X = the number of active accounts needed to successfully gank using ISBox (even if PLEXed, CCP still gets paid)... Y = the number of accounts that ragequit due to being ganked Z = the estimated number of subscrips that don't sign-up due to negative press/buzz of ganking
Only when X < (Y + Z) will CCP actually give a damn. Same thing applies to ISBoxing miners, Slowcats, or w/e.
It's not about "fair" or "unfair". It's about CCP making money. |
RcTamiya Leontis
Satan's Unicorns
14
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Posted - 2014.04.03 09:46:00 -
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Vladimir Norkoff wrote:X = the number of active accounts needed to successfully gank using ISBox (even if PLEXed, CCP still gets paid)... Y = the number of accounts that ragequit due to being ganked Z = the estimated number of subscrips that don't sign-up due to negative press/buzz of ganking
Only when X < (Y + Z) will CCP actually give a damn. Same thing applies to ISBoxing miners, Slowcats, or w/e.
It's not about "fair" or "unfair". It's about CCP making money.
Without money eve wouldn't excist, keep that in mind ;)
however in my corp we all triplebox without ISboxer and can handle that, using this as selfish example i just want to say, that you can do the same things without ISboxer ;) it really doesn't make that HUGE difference to be honest,it depends on how you setup your eve clients. |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2014.04.03 10:59:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Dreadchain wrote:
I'd go as far as to encourage people to isobox gank so CCP has to ban such software.
If I had the hardware necessary to run ISObox with a lot of accounts, and the accounts to run, I would be running a one-person hellcamp somewhere for exactly that reason.
I thought of it too, but I really don't want to risk getting struck with the ban hammer if CCP decides to swing it without giving a heads up first.
"Surely they wouldn't do that?!?!". Well, I wouldn't put any money on it.... |
Jediir Janau
Mining Synaptic
0
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:31:00 -
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Eve tears are the best tears. They have more substance to them than little COD or WOW kids'. |
Tear Jar
The Conference Elite CODE.
80
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:43:00 -
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Kathtrine wrote:Tear Jar wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:our tear cups may run dry. You have persuaded me to support ISboxer. Irony? CODE supporting a BOT tool? Even I am apposed to any Macro-Mining/Ganking or other use of a device that is outside the game that directly effects gameplay. CCP ban ISboxer please. EDIT: for clarity.
It was a joke. IN seriousness, I mildly dislike ISboxer. As far as the Code is concerned, its not a botting tool, as the player has to be at their keyboard when using it. However, it may violate the "excessive mining" provision of the Code. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2447
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:22:00 -
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Tear Jar wrote: It was a joke. IN seriousness, I mildly dislike ISboxer. As far as the Code is concerned, its not a botting tool, as the player has to be at their keyboard when using it. However, it may violate the "excessive mining" provision of the Code.
It definitely breaches the spirit of the CODE. I should ask James to change the letter of the CODE to make that clearer. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Dalto Bane
V I R I I Ineluctable.
39
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Posted - 2014.04.04 02:15:00 -
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Oh it's this thread again for the 2000th time. Keep crying and when they ban ISBoxer, I will have a reason to use my VPN and offset my keystroke .5-1 seconds and continue to use ISBoxer.. ISBoxer does not do anything except map keys to multiple clients, customize display, and throttle fps on background clients. As far as macros, go ahead and ban AHK and macro'ed decks and mice too so we can all go back to standard keyboards and two button mice. Right? Now if a player is using isxEve with ISBoxer, then by all means, that player should be banned! "Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep." |
Illiana Freir
The Firm Hand
1
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Posted - 2014.04.04 06:53:00 -
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Dalto Bane wrote: Oh it's this thread again for the 2000th time. Keep crying and when they ban ISBoxer, I will have a reason to use my VPN and offset my keystroke .5-1 seconds and continue to use ISBoxer.. ISBoxer does not do anything except map keys to multiple clients, customize display, and throttle fps on background clients. As far as macros, go ahead and ban AHK and macro'ed decks and mice too so we can all go back to standard keyboards and two button mice. Right? Now if a player is using isxEve with ISBoxer, then by all means, that player should be banned! Well I did not start the thread as a 'Plix CCP Ban all the ones making more ISKis then me.' I have just seen a lot of whining about miners using IsoBox or similar tools and then people hate it. So all I wondered was how people will stand when its used for ganking or other forms of PvP.
I am still a firm believer that if you need macros or a program to play on all your clients at the same time then you should not play that many at once. Sure I can play three accounts at once on my three screens but I don't use any software to make it easier or give me an advantage. But if you need to use IsoBox or whatever then go ahead, since its a greyzone in the EULA. |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2014.04.04 09:34:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Tear Jar wrote: It was a joke. IN seriousness, I mildly dislike ISboxer. As far as the Code is concerned, its not a botting tool, as the player has to be at their keyboard when using it. However, it may violate the "excessive mining" provision of the Code.
It definitely breaches the spirit of the CODE. I should ask James to change the letter of the CODE to make that clearer. As a Code sympathizer I have to agree. I go after MTU's for the same reason (it has nothing to do with getting me some cheap kills, srsly ). |
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