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Jordan Kandou Worley
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.03 01:56:00 -
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Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit? |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2014.04.03 01:59:00 -
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Entitlement. Not to put too fine a point on it.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:05:00 -
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Has the OP perhaps tried just asking his ex?
/not qualified as an armchair psychoanalyst. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
1627
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:08:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit?
Which kind of rage quit? The "I just got ganked screw this turn off the game" or the "Quitting forever!" type. I ask in seriousness. The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Jordan Kandou Worley
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:09:00 -
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The kind of rage quit that makes you want hurt people |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4336
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:11:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:The kind of rage quit that makes you want hurt people
My suggestion is, get that person professional help. They are far too emotionally invested in pixels for their own good. Pretty sure there are support groups for people that crazy. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
957
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:12:00 -
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Fred is playing a multiplayer FPS, and his gf calls out to him from the other room asking for help with something. "Can't you wait a bit, I'm in the middle of..." He turns his head to see her standing in the doorway completely starkers. "... err... next death ok? " Whereupon he gets killed by little Johnny who immediately sees that Fred has disconnected, and types in chat, "OMG QQ LOL I MAED THAT N00B RAGEQUIT" |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:13:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:The kind of rage quit that makes you want hurt people
lol stealth bonus room victim PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game http://i.imgur.com/RX8oBRN.jpg |
DJentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc. The Fire Nation Syndicate
230
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:15:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
My suggestion is, get that person professional help. They are far too emotionally invested in pixels for their own good. Pretty sure there are support groups for people that crazy.
Very well said.
EVE tends to attract a number of players who literally get insane when their spaceship is fired on. It can get really creepy some of the time.
Check this out if you don't believe me, folks. These are the gentle carebears, the white-knights of Eve online. Hopefully some people have been banned from the game for this.
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Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1655
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:45:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit?
Cascading neuron overload, synapses literally burst into fireworks like those little sparklers mom used to put on your birthday cake when you were 5, and then the host grabs another "energy" beverage full of synthetic crud that only makes the whole affair more painful.
About 5 minutes later, it's posted to YouTube as the last step to complete FAIL.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Dagar Bly
EvE Character Portrait REDUX
26
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:11:00 -
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Pure unabashed helplessness, it's a beautiful thing to witness. http://eveportraitcontest.webs.com |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1690
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:35:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit?
Sorry. Have no explanation. I've guit lots of games. I quit because they were boring. I quit because I sucked at them. Never gotten mad at the game, because.. game. I don't understand people raging at loss in EvE any more than I'd understand rage at loss in Monopoly. If its not fun, I'm not sure why you'd play the game. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose.
"You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |
Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
6039
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:36:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Has the OP perhaps tried just asking his ex?
-áGÖí-á-á-áMajor (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia Gÿá -á Sky Fighters | Just an innocent explorer! pâä Sith1s Spectre: "Here at Sky Fighters we respect quality forum PvPers." |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:36:00 -
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Sense of entitlement is a large factor in people quitting many things. Lack of committal is another reason. Loss of passion. These are usually the top three reasons people quit anything with fulfillment being the fourth major reason to quit. "Rage" is subjective however, most people just walk away without a word to anyone, some walk away happy, some walk away sad, and some walk away angry. The emotion expressed typically depends on the reasoning why one left. Quitting in anger is typically tied to entitlement, quitting in sadness is lack of passion, and quitting happily is generally tied to fulfillment.
The ones who don't say anything typically fall under lack of committal, don't care either way, it is what it is, life goes on type folks.
My diagnosis, Mr. Ragequit, left because he felt he was entitled to something without having to put in the required effort and when he found out he couldn't just get what he wanted and had to work for what he wanted he quit.
These traits are synonymous through everything we do in life, work, friendship, marriage, gaming, sports, or really wherever you have reward for effort, and the number one reason and number one type of person is the noncommittal silent type. Although the angry entitled crowd has been growing pretty fast over the past 10-15 years. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:40:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit?
This is a very complex question, and Im glad you asked it. As the Catalyst (pun intended) for several rage quits, I can say for absolute certainty that I have no clue, but im sure with a little deductive reasoning, we can figure it out!
First, the brain goes through a process of grief. Those stages are: 1) shock and denial, an attempt to avoid pain by denying the loss; 2) pain and guilt, a period of devastating pain and feelings that life is chaotic; 3) anger and bargaining, including emotional outbursts that can permanently damage relationships and attempts to bargain with a higher power for relief from the emotional pain; 4) depression and loneliness, or a period of reflection during which the person realizes the full impact of the loss; 5) upward turn, when the person begins to adjust to the loss; 6) reconstruction of life without the loved one; and 7) acceptance and hope. Acceptance does not imply happiness. Instead, the grieving person can now reminisce about the loved one with sadness, but without intense emotional pain.
First, the victim..cough...person is shocked to find their ship is destroyed! That didn't just happen! NOT IN HIGHSEC!!!! Then, they experience copious amounts of posterior pain and or rump rage over the loss of their vessel. Then, they usually go on a long extended tirade in local. They even demand that you repay them for their loss! Then, they get all mopey. Their ship is gone and they have no monies to replace it! ::sadface:: Theyre all alone in their one man corp..and being an anti-social highseccer..they probably have little to no friends. Then, They realize that they can petition you! You ganked them in Safesec! That HAS to be against the ToS/EULA! Then, they realize that what you did isn't against the rules, so they dock up and grab a noobship..or wake up in a fresh clone. They now get to update that clone and purchase new implants! Then, They accept that Eve is not for them, and in a hopeful rage filled QQ thread, they hope that a GM will see it and take action. They talk about all the fun they had in Eve, but ultimately go back to WoW.
I hope that help you with your question. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
6039
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:43:00 -
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Old research taken in other MMOs, and not specific to "rage" quitting, but still interesting.
Why we quit
Players who have quit
Frustration and agony in MMORPGs -áGÖí-á-á-áMajor (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia Gÿá -á Sky Fighters | Just an innocent explorer! pâä Sith1s Spectre: "Here at Sky Fighters we respect quality forum PvPers." |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:54:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
My suggestion is, get that person professional help. They are far too emotionally invested in pixels for their own good. Pretty sure there are support groups for people that crazy.
Very well said. EVE tends to attract a number of players who literally get insane when their spaceship is fired on. It can get really creepy some of the time. Check this out if you don't believe me, folks. These are the gentle carebears, the white-knights of Eve online. Hopefully some people have been banned from the game for this.
Agreed, especially people who make irl threats and racist comments when they get angry. They should get banned for that. PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game http://i.imgur.com/RX8oBRN.jpg |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1655
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:55:00 -
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... applauds Unsuccessful for reducing the "12 Step Program" to 7...
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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stoicfaux
4375
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:57:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit? You essentially break the Skinner Box, i.e. no ship == no lever to press. Which can be really, really, really, I mean it, really disruptive in people reliant on lever pushing.
That's why I bought several hundred CrackerJack boxes one day. In case of "lever failure," I pop open a crackerjack box and find solace and comfort at "winning" the prize inside.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4338
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:59:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit? You essentially break the Skinner Box, i.e. no ship == no lever to press. Which can be really, really, really, I mean it, really disruptive in people reliant on lever pushing. That's why I bought several hundred CrackerJack boxes one day. In case of "lever failure," I pop open a crackerjack box and find solace and comfort at "winning" the prize inside.
Wait, how is that not insanity? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Cat's Squirrel
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:00:00 -
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I got pretty frustrated with game awhile back, and the corp I was in, and then realized it was almost summertime and I had better things to do than play computer games, so I uninstalled. I guess it was a rage quit.
I came back once the rain started back up!
Miss that training time in my skill que now though... |
Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
6039
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:14:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:My diagnosis, Mr. Ragequit, left because he felt he was entitled to something without having to put in the required effort and when he found out he couldn't just get what he wanted and had to work for what he wanted he quit Agree with pretty much all of your post.
But just on that bit - the amount of "effort" any of us apply to a game is subjective. We all have different amounts of time we're able to invest, money we'll spend on the game, support within the game, etc. While one person who rage quits may well be an "entitled brat" style of player it's just as likely the next will be someone who's gone to enormous "effort" over time then sees it all go up in smoke in a flash - or gradually destroyed in a series of morale squishing blows.
Either of those players are really just exhibiting quite normal traits to be expected of normal people, and most likely not influenced by some mental disorder or emotional problem, contrary to some previous poster's opinions.
But then again mental illness IS enormously common (something like 1 in 3 people?) so I'm sure a few of those have "rage" quit over time too. -áGÖí-á-á-áMajor (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia Gÿá -á Sky Fighters | Just an innocent explorer! pâä Sith1s Spectre: "Here at Sky Fighters we respect quality forum PvPers." |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
259
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:17:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:My diagnosis, Mr. Ragequit, left because he felt he was entitled to something without having to put in the required effort and when he found out he couldn't just get what he wanted and had to work for what he wanted he quit Agree with pretty much all of your post. But just on that bit - the amount of "effort" any of us apply to a game is subjective. We all have different amounts of time we're able to invest, money we'll spend on the game, support within the game, etc. While one person who rage quits may well be an "entitled brat" style of player it's just as likely the next will be someone who's gone to enormous "effort" over time then sees it all go up in smoke in a flash - or gradually destroyed in a series of morale squishing blows. Either of those players are really just exhibiting quite normal traits to be expected of normal people, and most likely not influenced by some mental disorder or emotional problem, contrary to some previous poster's opinions. But then again mental illness IS enormously common (something like 1 in 3 people?) so I'm sure a few of those have "rage" quit over time too.
Interestingly enough, I find Eve excellent therapy for the mental illnesses I have been diagnosed with. It's complexity keeps my mind occupied, which is a very good thing.
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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KnowUsByTheDead
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1209
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:34:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit? This is a very complex question, and Im glad you asked it. As the Catalyst (pun intended) for several rage quits, I can say for absolute certainty that I have no clue, but im sure with a little deductive reasoning, we can figure it out! First, the brain goes through a process of grief. Those stages are: 1) shock and denial, an attempt to avoid pain by denying the loss; 2) pain and guilt, a period of devastating pain and feelings that life is chaotic; 3) anger and bargaining, including emotional outbursts that can permanently damage relationships and attempts to bargain with a higher power for relief from the emotional pain; 4) depression and loneliness, or a period of reflection during which the person realizes the full impact of the loss; 5) upward turn, when the person begins to adjust to the loss; 6) reconstruction of life without the loved one; and 7) acceptance and hope. Acceptance does not imply happiness. Instead, the grieving person can now reminisce about the loved one with sadness, but without intense emotional pain. First, the victim..cough...person is shocked to find their ship is destroyed! That didn't just happen! NOT IN HIGHSEC!!!! Then, they experience copious amounts of posterior pain and or rump rage over the loss of their vessel. Then, they usually go on a long extended tirade in local. They even demand that you repay them for their loss! Then, they get all mopey. Their ship is gone and they have no monies to replace it! ::sadface:: Theyre all alone in their one man corp..and being an anti-social highseccer..they probably have little to no friends. Then, They realize that they can petition you! You ganked them in Safesec! That HAS to be against the ToS/EULA! Then, they realize that what you did isn't against the rules, so they dock up and grab a noobship..or wake up in a fresh clone. They now get to update that clone and purchase new implants! Then, They accept that Eve is not for them, and in a hopeful rage filled QQ thread, they hope that a GM will see it and take action. They talk about all the fun they had in Eve, but ultimately go back to WoW. I hope that help you with your question.
\thread Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
Jennefer Fehrnah
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:54:00 -
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First of all i would ask you to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vny-dT8dxQI it deals with League of legends but the reasoning is similar. There is something in the brain called the fight-or-flight response, its when we mental feel backed into a corner, now in most games you should prevent this state AT ALL COSTS, because it means your no longer thinking about your actions.
In order to win in most games cold calculation is needed, this is also why you see many good fc's and corps be positive even if it makes absolutely no sense to do so, they want to avoid members from hitting this state ( the positive feedback means the members are less likely to have a threat response to what ever is happening on there screen ). When people hit fight or flight well there brain really can't deal with the internet and spaceships because are brains didn't develop to play video games. Basically it comes down to players a spiral of problems players will get angry then either choice to fight even if the odds are against them of run away the famous rage quit, now at the time a player feels like there are no reasons to keep playing anymore the game is horrible etc and there for this results in people rage quitting games. The best solution for anybody thinking about rage quitting is really go do something else for a hour or more then come back and see if you still feel the same way.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4640
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Posted - 2014.04.03 05:18:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit?
I wonder what goes on in the minds of those who delight in causing rage quits, and so much that they have to have evidence in hate mails and recordings, and share them with other people like them.
I can think of another activity where people do that.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2170
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Posted - 2014.04.03 05:57:00 -
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Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit?
Anger. This is not a signature. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4865
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Posted - 2014.04.03 06:00:00 -
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Precentor Saggitus
Planet Express Transport
4
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Posted - 2014.04.03 06:04:00 -
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I can understand why people quit, and sometimes I can understand why sometimes they're upset about it.
I'm not sure if I've ever "rage quit" before, though one time it probably seemed like it to the other players. In another MMO, I spent too long as a guild master, which is a ton of work, and worse than herding cats. It becomes a second job, and when you invest so much time, when **** goes wrong it can be really frustrating. I can handle whatever the pixels throw at me, but being on the receiving end of a lot of whining, other people's rage, personal problems, etc takes a toll very fast. Hell, I do that stuff for work and get paid for it, I don't want more if it in my off time, especially when I'm paying for it. If it ceases to be fun, you might as well go do something else, but lots of times that has nothing to do with the game mechanics themselves.
EVE, however, being different from other games, has a very steep learning curve. When I was a new player, I sucked, but I could enjoy doing what I was doing. I loved, and still love, lots of the aspects of the game, and I'm no stranger to losing ships. Logistically in EVE though, its possible to get backed into a corner. You can suddenly do nothing in game, besides provide a kill mail for someone else. As a new player you're especially vulnerable to this. I found myself stuck in a station, no money left to upgrade my clone and keep skill point, stuck with a rookie ship. Guys waiting to gank me as soon as I undocked. My first experience with wardec mechanics, and specifically being a war target.
Keep in mind, new player, only a few allies/corpmates, none of whom were online at the time. Just paid for a second month of subscription. Nothing to do but go offline. Since the opposing corp figured out my predicament, as usual they were unsympathetic, as EVE players are, they just wanted kill mails. Whenever I logged on in the next few days, having a more diverse corp, always some one outside the station waiting. Debated starting a new character, but that was sort of depressing, since I liked this one. Almost cancelled my sub on the face of it. Very close to when I finally was able to get some help from my corpmates, its only then you find out other options so that sort of thing doesn't happen again.
Now I learned those lessons and continued, but they're some pretty tough ones, but I don't find it suprising that some people quit when they feel the odds may be insurmountable. Easy to feel for a vulnerable newbie. Imagine that you really did like something, then suddenly found you couldn't do it. I'd be pretty unhappy if I couldn't do the things I wanted to do in RL. Few people understand the psycology of a highway traffic cop. Your average speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4340
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Posted - 2014.04.03 06:11:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Jordan Kandou Worley wrote:Can someone explain what goes on in the brain during a rage quit? I wonder what goes on in the minds of those who delight in causing rage quits, and so much that they have to have evidence in hate mails and recordings, and share them with other people like them. I can think of another activity where people do that.
The last guy that I chased out of the game unsubbed because I wouldn't stop killing him. I sniffed out his factory planet PI alt, and would pop him every time he tried to make a shipment. Never had less than 300 mil in his cargohold with a T1 industrial, not that the Loot Fairy ever let me see much of it.
If I had to venture a guess, I'd say after so many losses he couldn't plex that account any longer. I still have him watchlisted, since for the price of a suicide Thorax, he paid out like a broken slot machine. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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