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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.07 13:04:00 -
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Very much agreed with rooflez.
The Brutix has twice the signature radius of a Thorax. When you look at them side by side in-game, the difference in their sizes sure as hell isn't that big. And then the Megathron is 400m sig radius, and when you look at the Brutix and Megathron side by side, the size difference is huge! Given that Thorax has 140m sig radius and Megathron 400m, Brutix should be no more than 225m.
And yeah, the propulsion and agility. I find it silly that my Megathron and Dominix are as maneuverable as the Brutix.
I love the Brutix, really, but currently the biggest thing keeping me from using it is that it really takes too much damage and is too slow and cumbersome. For lvl 3 missions that I currently do a battleship is simply a better choice. Much better survivability, and just as agile. And the latter point is just wrong.
Really, the BCs need some loving. They're a very nice ship class potentially, and Brutix and Cyclone are two of some of the best looking ships in the game, so I truly hope they will get the adjustments they deserve!
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.07 13:34:00 -
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Ough, though to take the Brutix out for the first time since I got the battleships last week. Fitted an afterburner for travelling to my destination to go finish the mission in which I blew up with my Catalyst before downtime (due to much weirdness) - and immediately upon activation remembered why I don't usually fit an afterburner on the Brutix.
Man, it accelerates slower than a BS with AB. I remember once slapping a 100mn AB on the Brutix too, max speed was good but acceleration sucked big time.
So, to fix that acceleration in general should be improved, and also as was previously mentioned, we'd need some sort of AB/MWD type between 10mn and 100mn for BC use.
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.12 18:51:00 -
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Those graphs really show that the BCs truly need some lovin' 
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:21:00 -
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Yeah, anyone who says they don't need fixing frankly doesn't have a clue. They've got the worst of the both worlds: agility and sig radius of the BS (with more severe penalty for plates) and firepower more in line with cruisers. Firepower would be fine with me, but not when combined with the fact that it takes almost as much damage as a battleship, and is a slow. How is that "fine"? Just look at the damn models, BC is a LOT smaller than a BS and only slightly bigger than cruisers, yet their sig radius is nearly that of a tier 1 BS, and over TWICE that of a cruiser.
They're. Not. Fine.
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.13 13:37:00 -
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In my opinion the sig radius decrease is at least as important as the agility boost (given my mission running style, the better tanking it'd give would benefit me more than the agility, which I mainly need when I have to warp out quick). 300m sig radius for Brutix for example is just wrong.
I really hope the devs are looking into this, would be nice to get some sort of confirmation from them.
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.14 11:00:00 -
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 Originally by: kikosinosi
They should have:
4. they should be more noob friendly (too long training).
Uhh, no, not really. Consider that you can start with racial frigate 4. Therefore all you need to train to get a BC is Spaceship Command from 2 to 4, Cruiser to 3 and one level of BC. Takes what, 4 days maybe, even with newbie attributes? Of course you need various gunnery and support skills to be useful, but no, BC really isn't skill-intensive to be able to fly it, and I don't see why you think it is. Cruisers are just as skill-intensive.
Of course, Tech 2 BCs do take long training, but then again so do HACs.
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.14 19:17:00 -
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For Gallente I kinda wish Brutix had a 75m3 bay, since even the smaller Thorax has 50m3. But well, I can live with 50m3 just fine too, if I just get the agility boost and reduced signature radius 
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.18 08:39:00 -
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BC isn't really even that good for PVE currently. With my low-ish skills I often have to warp out with a BC from level 3s. Given that it's not hard to get a BS, and with one you'll have no problems (warpouts) with level 3s and even moving around is just as fast with a BS, there's really no reason to use a BC for them. I used a Brutix as long as I had no BS, and as soon as I did... well, there's just no point in using the Brutix anymore  And that's just wrong. Basically you'll just struggle with it needlessly with 2,5x the price of a Brutix you'll get a Domi. Compared to usefulness... 10x difference.
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.25 10:16:00 -
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I really want to train for a Cyclone, it has lower sig radius than Brutix and also slightly better speed and agility (I think, not sure on the latter), but I'm afraid it'll end up a disappointment too I really wish we'd get at least SOME response from Tux.
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.29 19:42:00 -
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Just bought a Cyclone, and will be sitting at the station I bought it from 'til I have the skills to fly it come Wednesday morning (bought it a long way off from my usual systems, so can't be arsed to fly back and forth). After that wait, if it doesn't handle at least a bit better than the Brutix, I'm gonna cry 
I wonder what would it take to get a dev reply on this. Promise of free beer served by hot women? 
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.29 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tehyarec on 29/05/2006 20:10:53
Damn you rooflez, damn you! Now all hope is lost
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.30 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
When BSs can achieve or surpass BC speed & agility by using nanofibers (and still keeping about as many free slots as the BC) it hardly can get more obvious that something is not right.
The real killer is that the BS doesn't even often need the damned nanofiber. Like me in a Domi and my brother in a Prophecy synchro-gang-warped from standstill both facing equally away from warp direction. That's just wrong
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.31 08:48:00 -
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Sammy, noticed precisely the same with my Brutix back when I first got one  Stupid, really.
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
All I can do for now is promise that I will look into it.
That's all we needed to hear
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.06.06 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Max Hardcase
The greatest irony is the cyclone description....they made it since they wanted something faster than BS on patrols 
Precisely. I only noticed that a couple of days ago myself, was a good laugh
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