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Marr21608
Time and all Eternity
HumAnnoyeD
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Posted - 2014.04.25 14:47:00 -
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Kimsemus wrote:Again -- all you can hope to refute me with is your own misguided opinions based entirely out of a sense of unwarranted self importance.
I have pretty effectively demonstrated that what you're attempting to do here lacks merit in almost every regard. If people insist on giving you their isk anyway that's their choice and their mistake to make.
You can attack me personally, based on your own misconceived notions all you wish -- I really don't care.
At the end of the day you're trying to pitch people on the idea of paying you to live in lowsec, while people can see the obvious benefits of null -- which is why tens of thousands already rent there.
I would compare Khanid to EVEnews24, and sov null to TMC. Writers (I mean renters) have a choice in where they live, and they choose TMC (I'm sorry, "nullsec") almost every time, because they know where the quality is.
And with that, I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors.
You have a good point and you are an idiot.
Your good point is renting in Low sec is a stupid idea. You are an idiot because you seem to think that it is fun to rent from the massive hordes of 19 year old kids in N3/PL and CFC.
SOV mechanics in modern eve have made it so a moderate size alliance can no longer hold sov. You have to pay hommage to one of the two guys that run EVE.
NULL SUCKS BALZ! RENTING IS WORSE! There is little content available in player held Null Sec and for what there is available the overlord alliances full of **** lords will milk it for all it is worth.
Renter corporations and alliances will go around 6 months of renting to discover this then cut ties and ditch no richer than they would have been grinding in high sec.
You are right however in that Low sec Renting is a joke. Low sec belongs to the NPC Faction that lives there. You low sec alliances that got booted out of Null or absorbed into one of the big boys need to all man up and start taking SOV.
I know for a fact that if you all cause problems across the borders of N3/PL and CFC space they will stop gloating stop boasting and start losing.
Besides.... Isn't the death of CFC N3 and PL what we all want???
Don't we all wish to see Mittens and Graths posts vanish???
**** Half of their own people including their highest leadership want to see them die, and they cannot maintain a relationship with someone for lng without encouraging threats on each others real lives. I believe that they define the word "**** lord".
If we are all in agreement about this then we should all pick one system and start with the gorilla warfare and make Null sec into the colorful mishmash of incredibly diverse groups of awesome players that it has been many times before.
And to SYJ.
If yer gonna do this go to Venal. Much quieter and the constellations are ideal for this stupid idea. |
Marr21608
Time and all Eternity
HumAnnoyeD
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Posted - 2014.04.25 14:50:00 -
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Take that back maybe Khanid is better.... Its a really different idea... I may be warming up to it....
BUT N3 PL AND CFC ARE STILL GAY FOR EACH OTHER!
And should all choke on each other. |
Marr21608
Time and all Eternity
HumAnnoyeD
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:22:00 -
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After a bit of research I support this idea....
Do me a favor..
Don't call it rent. Makes me cringe.
And that is probably the reason for the massive amount of outbursts from older players on this thread. If you consider each contributing member you recruit to be actually that... A member... Meaning a member of an elitist group with a purpose. You lose the demeaning feel pressed on all renters within the CFC, PL and N3.
On top of that strive to incorporate some other forms of payment for your renters.
Leave isk as an option but SRP management, Moon management, Numbers in Cap fleets, All kinds of Logistics and support should be considered and make sure your pvp guys are not running the low sec complexes and gas/data sites, as leaders in the groups you recruit will need those sites to keep their general population happy.
It is a very strange idea all together but with the lack of content (Fun content.. Stop kicking the dead horse let it be dead.) in Null sec I think some of the older players in the game may take you up on this. And if so this will become more popular. That is your target customer here. Bitter vets that don't have the time required for Null sec and are looking for a fun environment in an area where the skills they already have can be put to use.
There is no more risk than there is in Null sec only different risk. Vet players with more experience would benefit from such arrangements in the same way they do with wormholes and development in these parts of eve will only bring advancements by CCP to help those players in development of their game play.
I for one can in-vision several smaller more effective coalitions taking regions all over eve in this manner pulling people to their own brand of game play. The unique difficulties may require a different skill set and different game play but would provide more fun than the current renting situation under the **** lords. |
Marr21608
Time and all Eternity
HumAnnoyeD
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:44:00 -
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Qmamoto Kansuke wrote:You know while this offer sounds juicy in theory you've not given any solid proof that you're in control of the said region and there has been plenty of posts in the topic from neutral entities saying they roam khanid frequently.
In the end if carebears lose their ice mining fleet few times for example it will not be worth moving out.So my theory is this: prove that you're the masters and no one can get in or out without your permission then you might get your project going.So far i've not seen such proof just empty words without backing.
Just wanted to add on this as I did a bit of investigating on my own over the weekend.
Over this last week our wormhole which opens to Low sec opened in Neda twice. I thought this was amazing and I know its extremely rare but you can ask anyone in our alliance we got two statics to the same system in a week. Neda is a system in Khanid right in the middle of the area we are talking about here. I found this interesting and decided to check out the area. Just to inform everyone interested I found all entrances to or this area of low sec to have several members of SYJ actively attempting to engage me.
We also found the systems to be rich with combat , Relic, Data sites, A gas site that dropped a skill book worth 200 million and a couple 6/10 complexes.
After a short while we decided to cycle the wormhole and not only did we lose the wormhole closing Megathron we were using in the process but also a bomber.
In short the SYJ guys are doing a far better job protecting the area they call their own (Or protecting the members of their protection agreement) than I ever saw from the N3 or PL in my years experience renting from them (And if you think the CFC can do better than N3/PL.... Surely you're joking).
Had my alliance joined with SYJ in this type of arrangement instead of joining up with the lords of Null sec I am sure we would have had alot more fun and likely would still be there. |
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