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Zhenya Zivonencia
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.13 06:23:00 -
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Simple.
What do u make more ISK from, Sansha Ports or from level 4 missions.
I use duel characters. BC and BS |
Holgrak Blacksmith
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.13 08:46:00 -
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I recently jump cloned to high sec to try level 4s and see if they're all they're cracked up to be. Unless I'm doing something really wrong there's absolutely no way these can make the isk I get carrier ratting in angel anoms in null. |
Anize Oramara
S T R A T C O M Critical-Mass
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Posted - 2014.04.13 09:00:00 -
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Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:I recently jump cloned to high sec to try level 4s and see if they're all they're cracked up to be. Unless I'm doing something really wrong there's absolutely no way these can make the isk I get carrier ratting in angel anoms in null. Who on earth told you you'd get the same/more from lv4s than from null ratting?
Don't tell me you didn't get the memo from your nullsec overlords that their winging about HS income being OP was just propaganda? |
Holgrak Blacksmith
Viziam Amarr Empire
204
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:01:00 -
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So many high sec scrubs post about making 100mil per hour on lvl 4s. I wanted to find out if it's true. It isn't. |
Anize Oramara
S T R A T C O M Critical-Mass
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Posted - 2014.04.13 12:25:00 -
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Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:So many high sec scrubs post about making 100mil per hour on lvl 4s. I wanted to find out if it's true. It isn't. Oh, that.
Yea it's possible. It's not necessarily *fun* but it's possible.
You'd have to be running like almost all V + Implants Pally in Amarr space or Vargur in Minmatar space and loot + salvage at the same time (only until everything is dead so cherry picking). Even better have multiple different ships for the right missions. And also know missions like the back of your hand, drop a lot of missions and have prefits that you can immediately swap to. Know when to blitz or have a mobile depo so you know exactly when to switch fits mid mission (AB, MWD,MJD,None). Location helps (2 Lv4 agents in same station) as does knowing what to buy with your LP.
Possible but aint no nullbear warp in press F1 BS.
And they call Lv4 mission runners mindless carebears (well the good ones at least) |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
894
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Posted - 2014.04.13 12:48:00 -
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Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:So many high sec scrubs post about making 100mil per hour on lvl 4s. I wanted to find out if it's true. It isn't.
Blitz for sisters.
and yes its more than possible. I can do it with a dominix. Doesn't even need a faction boat.
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Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.04.13 15:18:00 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:So many high sec scrubs post about making 100mil per hour on lvl 4s. I wanted to find out if it's true. It isn't. Oh, that. Yea it's possible. It's not necessarily *fun* but it's possible. You'd have to be running like almost all V + Implants Pally in Amarr space or Vargur in Minmatar space and loot + salvage at the same time (only until everything is dead so cherry picking). Even better have multiple different ships for the right missions. And also know missions like the back of your hand, drop a lot of missions and have prefits that you can immediately swap to. Know when to blitz or have a mobile depo so you know exactly when to switch fits mid mission (AB, MWD,MJD,None). Location helps (2 Lv4 agents in same station) as does knowing what to buy with your LP. Possible but aint no nullbear warp in press F1 BS. And they call Lv4 mission runners mindless carebears (well the good ones at least) Well, they do have the advantage of never having to cease making money when hostiles show up, or be making reduced income as you are also busy with some sov war or another. Sure, more hassle, but rather unlikely to ever be blown up. |
Anize Oramara
S T R A T C O M Critical-Mass
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Posted - 2014.04.15 05:32:00 -
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Darth Kilth wrote:Anize Oramara wrote:Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:So many high sec scrubs post about making 100mil per hour on lvl 4s. I wanted to find out if it's true. It isn't. Oh, that. Yea it's possible. It's not necessarily *fun* but it's possible. You'd have to be running like almost all V + Implants Pally in Amarr space or Vargur in Minmatar space and loot + salvage at the same time (only until everything is dead so cherry picking). Even better have multiple different ships for the right missions. And also know missions like the back of your hand, drop a lot of missions and have prefits that you can immediately swap to. Know when to blitz or have a mobile depo so you know exactly when to switch fits mid mission (AB, MWD,MJD,None). Location helps (2 Lv4 agents in same station) as does knowing what to buy with your LP. Possible but aint no nullbear warp in press F1 BS. And they call Lv4 mission runners mindless carebears (well the good ones at least) Well, they do have the advantage of never having to cease making money when hostiles show up, or be making reduced income as you are also busy with some sov war or another. Sure, more hassle, but rather unlikely to ever be blown up. Yea this horse is beyond dead so not even going to go there. I think Holgrak Blacksmith's words tell us more about the real state of things than the same old parroted arguments. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1930
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:58:00 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:So many high sec scrubs post about making 100mil per hour on lvl 4s. I wanted to find out if it's true. It isn't. Oh, that. Yea it's possible. It's not necessarily *fun* but it's possible. You'd have to be running like almost all V + Implants Pally in Amarr space or Vargur in Minmatar space and loot + salvage at the same time (only until everything is dead so cherry picking). Even better have multiple different ships for the right missions. And also know missions like the back of your hand, drop a lot of missions and have prefits that you can immediately swap to. Know when to blitz or have a mobile depo so you know exactly when to switch fits mid mission (AB, MWD,MJD,None). Location helps (2 Lv4 agents in same station) as does knowing what to buy with your LP. Possible but aint no nullbear warp in press F1 BS. And they call Lv4 mission runners mindless carebears (well the good ones at least) all true, but the most important thing is to invest some time and effort into building a spreadsheet with mission completion times and projected isk/hour/mission. then get your faction standings to >5.0 and decline anything with shit isk/hour.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Auduin Samson
Do not disturb Sanctuary Pact
156
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:17:00 -
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Remember, LP plays into how much isk you make in L4 missions as well. You will make MUCH more raw isk per tick ratting in null, but when you figure in the LP from level four missions they are much closer. I still think that nullsec ratting will pull more in, but it's not as huge of a difference as is being presented here. You just lost your ship The tears will fuel my spaceship Go quit Eve again
-Bane Nucleus-á |
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stoicfaux
4505
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:51:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote: all true, but the most important thing is to invest some time and effort into building a spreadsheet with mission completion times and projected isk/hour/mission. then get your faction standings to >5.0 and decline anything with shit isk/hour.
Oh, it's not that bad.
As for the OP, YMMV: Vargur not blitzing: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4218169
Vargur blitzing: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=334784
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2648
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:15:00 -
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Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:I recently jump cloned to high sec to try level 4s and see if they're all they're cracked up to be. Unless I'm doing something really wrong there's absolutely no way these can make the isk I get carrier ratting in angel anoms in null.
Carrier rating is indeed more profitable than level four missions. So it should be, you are fielding a two billion ISK asset in dangerous space as opposed to an Ishtar Blitzer fielding a 350m asset in fairly safe space. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment The Camel Empire
914
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:29:00 -
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Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:So many high sec scrubs post about making 100mil per hour on lvl 4s. I wanted to find out if it's true. It isn't. How many LP per hour did you get? How much ISK/lp did you get from your item?
100mil is not imposible, but hard. You need faction BS and a very good item in the lp shop. Last time I run the numbers I got ~25k LP/h, that is 75mil/h from LP alone with an 3k ISK/lp item. (With a non pimped Tengu)
If your LP shop is crap you get crap ISK/h with mission.
The nice things about anoms is that you don't need to warp around that much. At least no gate jumps. Also no worrie about LP or standing. It's easy money. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
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Posted - 2014.04.25 00:39:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:I recently jump cloned to high sec to try level 4s and see if they're all they're cracked up to be. Unless I'm doing something really wrong there's absolutely no way these can make the isk I get carrier ratting in angel anoms in null. Carrier rating is indeed more profitable than level four missions. So it should be, you are fielding a two billion ISK asset in dangerous space as opposed to an Ishtar Blitzer fielding a 350m asset in fairly safe space.
Compare an afktar in nullsec vs a Blitztar in highsec. then we can talk. |
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