because you're abolishing the entire concept of slots so you have the same system everywhere instead of a stupid and archaic system on pos

A POS i.e. a Tower currently, is stupid i.e. poor almost to the point of senile AI and archaic basically for the simple reason being CCP have never updated them effectively and efficiently to keep pace with the rest of the game mechanics they have unleashed or modified the only update they received was the fuel blocks idea because the newbies couldn't get to grips with efficient use of the items we used before(so it was dumbed down) it seems as more newer players come on board the more babyish the mods become, soon no one will have to use his/her brain to play any more there will be less and less personal initiative and skill needed at doing things better than someone else. What happens in RL is our the ability to work out something most take as is, so you discover a tweak and work out for yourself how to work it better for yourself. It is becoming all to bland, sandbox pah! more like "Toy" box. a simple example was POS fuel prior to (fuel blocks), a canny POS owner could if he chose too, might, chance off lining certain modules or two to save on the Liq Oz and Heavy Water usages, That meant Taking Risk, a chance but could help balance your books on POS costs at certain times, that to me was an element in EVE that was good, your POS may have been at risk more but that did meet with Risk vs Gain concepts. That kind of Risk/chance taking took "balls" to do it, but it could be done if you needed to, now we have std fuel blocks, flat costs, flat choices lost risk taking for gain, lost initiative to the individual poorer quality game mechanics. and that is only one example.

I believe he means corp offices.

Do you maybe not know how highsec research POS's work? You have to rent an office(of which they are limited - only 24 in each NPC station) and have a moon/POS setup.

If I didn't have a POS and were only going to research blueprints in a station(that had the slots) you still have to own a corp office to store the blueprints in(so you can share them with your corp). You might not get grok that part because out in sov null you already own all your outposts and approve who can rent there and if you need the slots you just kick people out. Maybe working like a highsec indy corp/team isn't something you do a lot of.

Common guys! Don't lie to us and don't lie to yourself!
All you want is JUST MAKE US TO BUY PLEX FOR REAL MONEY! Thats all. Just say it fair!

You want to make ships UNIQUE! When player fear to lose his ship!

PLEX are already purchased with real money.

Yes they want make us use this sh..t mush more!

Fortunately, corp offices are not strictly necessary to do research.

Yes they want make us use this sh..t mush more!

Uh, yes. They are a corporation. They exist to make money.

Strictly, no. but assuming he's referring to a situation where it's preferential, and in that case it's for all intents and purposes relevant.

It would be preferential for me to be able to afk a freighter through nullsec to deliver precious raw materials to my farms, but unfortunately, there are bubbles and shooty mans.

This does not give me the foothold to demand insta-align, interdiction nullified freighters.

trust me our problem with office limits is far worse than yours, we would happily agree to infinite offices for all stations and outposts

trust me our problem with office limits is far worse than yours, we would happily agree to infinite offices for all stations and outposts

This is the worst single idea I have ever seen from a dev. DO NOT DO THIS CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!

We already risk a large amount of isk in just having the labs/datacores/decryptors and all of the copies needed out at a pos. Forcing us to either risk a huge amount more than that, or move the bpos to other much more populated stations that are already overpopulated (that don't have corp offices available or available for anywhere near a reasonable price) and incur a high cost that will greatly reduce production profit or negate it all together, is a horrible change. You as devs do not understand the amount of bpos required to make copies for t2 invention. And you clearly don't understand the organization and the necessity of being able to efficiently access bpos and the time commitment that industry already takes. It is incredibly shortsighted and ignorant of you to assume that it is only a slight amount of isk that we will be risking. We use and need easy access to hundreds of bpos to make the copies we need to be able to do invention. Asking us to risk multiple billions in bpos is insane. And no, I know I don't have to keep all of the bpos I am not using at the pos. However, the addition of moving around the needed bpos from the station to the pos adds an additional step and organizational nightmare to an already complicated system. Because of the nature of industry NOTHING you do with the UI and other new features will change this.

This change will also create an additional hassle organizational nightmare for players who need to find or move bpos around. Industry is already complicated enough without having to deal with moving all of the bpos around. DO NOT take away our ability to organize bpos in one central station corp office so multiple characters can easily have access to them and can quickly and efficiently install jobs. DO NOT make us do more work and take more time to do industry jobs.

Another severely overlooked issue that this creates: This removes the ability of safely sharing bpos by locking them down in corp hanger in a station. BPOs can't be locked down at a pos. This change will limit how and where we can play severely. It forces people who want to play together to use certain systems and certain stations, to pay for spots at those stations and it practically makes setting up a pos a waste of time and effort, because it limits its usefulness. In the culture of eve (griefers/corp thieves/all) this change removes several much needed elements of safety that allow us to enjoy playing and interacting with a larger player base.

If you have decided to do this, as is suggested by other statements in this dev blog, because you haven't worked out how to deal how the slot change affects pos mods, then DO NOT make this change until you come up with a better solution. Because this is NOT the way to make this change happen.

POSes are expensive, take time, effort and a good amount of isk to maintain already. Forcing us to risk a considerable amount more and in doing so increase the amount of busy work that is required for doing industry is not a good change.

I personally have been playing Eve for 5 and a half years. Industry is one part of the game that I greatly enjoy doing. If this change does go through I will have to seriously consider if it is worth it to keep paying for my 4 accounts. Many of my friends who like this element of the game are already talking about leaving because of this. I sincerely hope that you will not go through with this change and that the other forthcoming industry changes are much more intelligently and thoughtfully crafted than this. If not, you will be losing a large group of your paying customers.

Dinsdale, isn't it just possible (however unlikely) that CCP might be trying to end up with viable industry in all parts of space?

people just haven't realized that you don't need research corporations anymore: individuals will do their own research and industrial corps will lock their bpos in factories for building

Exacly,

Say goodbai high sec industry,

Welcome 20 man nestorfleets sweeping & collecting the sweet dropping bpo's & tears.

Welcome T1 & T2 price increase for 20%

Exacly,
Say goodbai high sec industry,
Welcome 20 man nestorfleets sweeping & collecting the sweet dropping bpo's & tears.
Welcome T1 & T2 price increase for 20%

Not sure why anyone thinks industry should exist in an artificial bubble of protection - you're not building/researching stuff for free, you do make money out of it.