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Wesley Otsdarva
Asuratech Industrial Corp Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2014.04.15 22:33:00 -
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They forgot one thing, which was THE NESTOR. I actually was only recently reminded of it's existence by a freind when going over the Pirate faction changes.
So, will we see anything come out about the Nestor? Or is it now the ship everyone else (including CCP) have forgotten about. |
Marc Callan
Nuclear Manhattan Limited
441
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:02:00 -
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If you check, none of the SOE ships were included in the pirate rebalancing: not the Astero, not the Stratios, not the Nestor. The reason's probably simple: the rebalance initiative was well underway before the SOE line was introduced, while every other pirate hull on the market predates the rebalance initiative. "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt |
Wesley Otsdarva
Asuratech Industrial Corp Rebel Alliance of New Eden
40
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:27:00 -
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Marc Callan wrote:If you check, none of the SOE ships were included in the pirate rebalancing: not the Astero, not the Stratios, not the Nestor. The reason's probably simple: the rebalance initiative was well underway before the SOE line was introduced, while every other pirate hull on the market predates the rebalance initiative.
True, but the Nestor is in a sad place in terms of usage. And usability. Everything else just does everything better. I don't think many people were asking for an exploration battleship with RR abilities. |
Shelom Severasse
Lusitan Initiative
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:24:00 -
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the nestor is a giant, super expensive logi ship. the only way that i can se it being implemented is in fleet vs fleet, but no one is going to want to risk that amount of isk when they could just fly a t2 cruiser logi. so, imo, the lp cost of the nestor is going to have to be dramatically reduced in order to actually see it as more than just a collector ship |
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
305
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:33:00 -
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When the SOE bubble pops it will cost far less isk on market.
Problem solved? |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Mordus Angels
877
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:03:00 -
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Ireland VonVicious wrote:When the SOE bubble pops it will cost far less isk on market.
Problem solved?
Nope, I can pull 3k per LP all week selling probes. I won't bother with the Nestor because its a poor return, period. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3124
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:24:00 -
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It might be rebalanced yet. I'm expecting CCP to announce a new pirate race for Summer, so there's still time for stuff I guess. Oh god. |
Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
143
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:45:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote: I'm expecting CCP to announce a new pirate race for Summer
Just a gut feeling? |
Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:02:00 -
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Wesley Otsdarva wrote:They forgot one thing, which was THE NESTOR. I actually was only recently reminded of it's existence by a freind when going over the Pirate faction changes.
So, will we see anything come out about the Nestor? Or is it now the ship everyone else (including CCP) have forgotten about.
SOE are also not really pirate ships... |
Wesley Otsdarva
Asuratech Industrial Corp Rebel Alliance of New Eden
40
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:58:00 -
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Luwc wrote:Wesley Otsdarva wrote:They forgot one thing, which was THE NESTOR. I actually was only recently reminded of it's existence by a freind when going over the Pirate faction changes.
So, will we see anything come out about the Nestor? Or is it now the ship everyone else (including CCP) have forgotten about. SOE are also not really pirate ships...
True SOE aren't actual pirates. But I think everyone knows that the nestor sucks and could use a buff. |
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The Djego
Hellequin Inc. Mean Coalition
249
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Posted - 2014.04.16 14:09:00 -
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As from somebody that owns 2 and uses them a lot, it needs 3 more lock slots, a lot less signature(since repping it up with a 2. normal logi is a pain currently if you don't have other RR BS to help out) and still could use a better capacitor as logi hull(yes even with 500M+ in T2 RR rigs it can hardly run medium reps in useful setups). To actually make it attractive outside the super niche of a fairly expensive logi BS it would need 100% damage bonus and 3 gun slots instead of 5 so you could use it more like the oldmarauders where used before they got the bastion mode. Oh and a Tracking link bonus would be nice. Improve discharge rigging: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246166&find=unread
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3124
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Posted - 2014.04.16 15:52:00 -
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Lucine Delacourt wrote:Riot Girl wrote: I'm expecting CCP to announce a new pirate race for Summer Just a gut feeling? Devs have mentioned they want to introduce a dedicated missile faction.
Oh god. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
964
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Posted - 2014.04.17 11:11:00 -
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Wesley Otsdarva wrote:Marc Callan wrote:If you check, none of the SOE ships were included in the pirate rebalancing: not the Astero, not the Stratios, not the Nestor. The reason's probably simple: the rebalance initiative was well underway before the SOE line was introduced, while every other pirate hull on the market predates the rebalance initiative. True, but the Nestor is in a sad place in terms of usage. And usability. Everything else just does everything better. I don't think many people were asking for an exploration battleship with RR abilities.
It isn't an exploration BS. It has the bonuses as free extras for flavour. It is a combined logi/dps platform for spider tanking. No one really knows how good it is at this as it is currently too expensive.When the price drops people will test it out in combat. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
420
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Posted - 2014.04.17 23:16:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Lucine Delacourt wrote:Riot Girl wrote: I'm expecting CCP to announce a new pirate race for Summer Just a gut feeling? Devs have mentioned they want to introduce a dedicated missile faction.
Caldari Navy doesn't count I suppose.
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Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers
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Posted - 2014.04.18 09:04:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Caldari Navy doesn't count I suppose.
As a Gallente Patriot, I agree with you that the Caldari Navy is a pirate faction.
Not everyone agrees with us on this however. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
648
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Posted - 2014.04.20 13:27:00 -
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If they aren't going to drop the LP cost, just yank all the logi bonuses off it and let the White Elephant be able to use a cov ops cloak.
At least people will have a reason to use the damn thing then. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Nimrod vanHall
Martyr's Vengence Nulli Secunda
74
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:37:00 -
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The nestor is fine as it is. It has its own niche. Its expensive enough not to become a o.o doctrine, so it stays rare sight. Its perfect. |
Pris 7
Sierra Tactical and Logistics
2
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Posted - 2014.04.22 17:34:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:It might be rebalanced yet. I'm expecting CCP to announce a new pirate ship for Somer, so there's still time for stuff I guess.
Fixed this for you. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1341
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Posted - 2014.04.23 10:28:00 -
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Wesley Otsdarva wrote:They forgot one thing, which was THE NESTOR. I actually was only recently reminded of it's existence by a freind when going over the Pirate faction changes.
So, will we see anything come out about the Nestor? Or is it now the ship everyone else (including CCP) have forgotten about.
That thing was JUST created a few months ago. It obvious that if they planesd to change it they would have made it already changed for starts!
Why is so hard for people to use brains? "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Unter Daem
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:49:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Lucine Delacourt wrote:Riot Girl wrote: I'm expecting CCP to announce a new pirate race for Summer Just a gut feeling? Devs have mentioned they want to introduce a dedicated missile faction.
are they not making the guristas missile-dedicated? i thought i saw changes saying that their drone bonuses (including those improving bay size) were changing to missile buffs. |
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3152
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:59:00 -
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Guristas are getting split weapon bonuses to missiles and drones. Oh god. |
Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.01 07:03:00 -
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Amusingly, the most interesting fit i saw for it was a ~110km range ~1000dps lasor + sentry fit, shield tanked...
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