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Choo Kiko Wapi
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:25:00 -
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in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play? |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
115
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:33:00 -
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Instead of staying docked up you could:
- Undock and try to survive
- Undock and fight (yes you will probably die, but use a cheap ship, try it out anyway)
- Try out different careers with this NPC corp alt instead of using it just to post on the forums
- Momentarily drop corp
- Consider joining another corp - possibly even the same guys that decced you 
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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
964
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:54:00 -
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Choo Kiko Wapi wrote:in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play?
So i used to be a highsec carebear.
In my 1st 2 weeks we got wardec'd by people that actively targeted us.
We fought back and had good times and got some nice kills.
I left the game for a while (nothing to do with wardecs) and when i came back i joined a new corp.
We got dec'd. I tried to organise resistance but no one wanted to and they stayed docked up.
My response was 2 fold.
My old main went exploring in out of the way high sec. I never saw any war targets and in any case i scouted my gates.
This char which was my scout for low sec escalations i joined a pvp training corp which then led to me joining a nullsec PVP corp which i am now a leading member of.
I now do minimal carebearing and maximum pvp taking advantage of passive income streams to fund the pvp.
Moving from missions /high sec exploration /wormhole daytrips to PVP was a revalation (this char was a few weeks old at the time). It completely changed EVE for me from a mainly solo /limited corp chat to a group based lively TS with lots of content creators all competing to create fun for everyone.
I owe it all to however war dec'd my old main.
My point OP was i tried 4 different approaches to dealing with the war dec.
Fighting back
Changing where i operated from (far from trade hubs)
Changed what i did (relic /data /wormholes)
Joined a pvp training group.
none of these involved docking up for a week. Maybe you should rethink your strategy?
You may find as i did whole new areas of gameplay open up and that some of them you may enjoy more than what you do currently.
Or you could make an alt and leave it in an npc corp. Make sure it does something totally different to your main. ie trading /manufacturing/ FW/ pirate/ explorer/ wormhole /whatever. Then you will never need to worry about wardecs.
Money at its root is a form of rationing.
When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Dreadchain
Lavateinn
72
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:11:00 -
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Choo Kiko Wapi wrote:in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play?
If your corp isn't instructing you on how to survive and fight back during a wardec, it's probably high time to find another corp to join.
There's an enormous amount of highsec corps who don't have a shred of a clue on what they're doing, and usually only exist to serve the CEO's tax income. I suspect you've found your way to one of these and highly recommend avoiding such corps
www.minerbumping.com |
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:15:00 -
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I'm always sad when a corp's response to a wardec is to just dock up. The other posters have given good advise on your options.
If your opponents have truly overwhelming force, personally I'd go to low sec, or into a WH... High sec wardec corps aren't normally interested in following there, unless they have a serious reason to pursue you. (There would have to be a pretty serious reason for the war, not just a casual dec.)
Both places are more profitable than high sec, and would give a chance for your corp to train pvp skills, which your corp would seem to be lacking in, if they are not willing or able to fight. Depending on the skill level of your corp mates, WH space might be a bit much, but working as a team, you could probably handle a C1, even with very low skills. |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
232
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:48:00 -
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Choo Kiko Wapi wrote:in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play?
Besides fighting, the best response to a war dec that you dont want is to go to low sec. They will not follow you.
Alternatively, just join an npc corp until the war is over.
Or you could, you know, fight them...
I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
5236
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:12:00 -
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Cassandra Aurilien wrote:Edit: It's worth mentioning that many of the people you'll run into in low-sec or WH's are quite willing to teach new players a thing or two about pvp. Not everyone, of course, but you might be surprised at how friendly both places can be, if you show a willingness to fight and learn. If you go to low sec and die, strike up a conversation with your killer - after you save your pod...
This. I will first kill you... then teach you how to kill others if you are nice enough. Such is the way of things in low-sec.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |
Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
3476
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Posted - 2014.04.18 18:26:00 -
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Choo Kiko Wapi wrote:in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue being in this corp if I cant play?
FYP
The Drake is a Lie |
Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
3476
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Posted - 2014.04.18 18:32:00 -
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Whoops, I meant to Edit D:
The Drake is a Lie |
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
895
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Posted - 2014.04.18 19:29:00 -
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Believe in yourself more OP! You don't have to stay docked! All these suggestions are good ones, you can play, no one can stop you. I personally like the "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." approach to this pickle.
Welcome to EVE!
Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory.-áAll miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code.-áMining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com to learn more. |
Herbinator d'Arcadie
Arkadian Knight
67
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Posted - 2014.04.18 19:52:00 -
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Choo Kiko Wapi wrote:in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play?
lol
To them, you exist to be killed. Over and over again. You are no match for them, and you may not be for 3 or 4 years. They get their jollies by killing you. For them, the game is simple. You are just another red plus sign.
Going to low sec or to a wormhole ... bad advice. You will die. They exist there only to kill you. Over and over again.
At two months you barely have the skills to kill Dagan -- an NPC in an Epic Arc Mission. Not very likely you can take on a real Person Character.
The reality is that you actually don't exist to make them happy. It's not your job. Just think of them as a very well written Artificial Intelligence. Now, as you play the game, you win simply by doing the gazillions of things that can be done, and avoid being killed. You will learn a lot. And you will spoil their days.
One day you may decide to grief noobies. And that's fine, I guess, because you will CHOOSE that path. But for now, playing smart is something you can do almost from the gitgo ... and it pisses them off no end.
You should find another corp, though. Or get friends involved in the game and form your own corp. The Corp's purpose is to help you have fun.
For the price, you can't find a game with a better AI. ;)
"Block" pigs. Refuse to fly with them.
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Viserys Anstian
Wayward Chickens
2
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:33:00 -
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Get out and fight.
My old corp was just starting out and we got War Dec'd. Our leadership actively encouraged all the newer players (like me) to get out and use it as an excuse to train up. Honestly, we had a blast. Go out in cheap T1 frigates with cheap fits. Go out in gangs. You'd be surprised what a gang of T1s can do.
Whatever you do, don't stay docked. |
Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
348
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:39:00 -
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One method to make the cost to declare war on your corporation a wasted investment is to remake your corporation.
Since you are allowed to not want to PvP, you can take the step necessary to avoid it, which is remake the corporation.
Perhaps through continuously remaking your corporation, the aggressors will tire of wasting their isk and instead look to declare war on a corporation which has an actual desire to participate in one.
But of course, those corps declaring war on you probably aren't looking for legitimate fights, and only easy targets, which is a problem with the psychology of EvE players.
Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
232
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:37:00 -
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Herbinator d'Arcadie wrote:Choo Kiko Wapi wrote:in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play? lol To them, you exist to be killed. Over and over again. You are no match for them, and you may not be for 3 or 4 years. They get their jollies by killing you. For them, the game is simple. You are just another red plus sign. Going to low sec or to a wormhole ... bad advice. You will die. They exist there only to kill you. Over and over again. At two months you barely have the skills to kill Dagan -- an NPC in an Epic Arc Mission. Not very likely you can take on a real Person Character. The reality is that you actually don't exist to make them happy. It's not your job. Just think of them as a very well written Artificial Intelligence. Now, as you play the game, you win simply by doing the gazillions of things that can be done, and avoid being killed. You will learn a lot. And you will spoil their days. One day you may decide to grief noobies. And that's fine, I guess, because you will CHOOSE that path. But for now, playing smart is something you can do almost from the gitgo ... and it pisses them off no end. You should find another corp, though. Or get friends involved in the game and form your own corp. The Corp's purpose is to help you have fun. For the price, you can't find a game with a better AI. ;)
This guy does not know what he is talking about. At two (2) months you certainly have the "skills" to fight them and to go to lowsec or to null. You learned these skills in kindergarten. Just make friends. Ofc you will die on occasion but that is the nature of eve.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17987
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:37:00 -
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Herbinator d'Arcadie wrote:
At two months you barely have the skills to kill Dagan -- an NPC in an Epic Arc Mission. Not very likely you can take on a real Person Character.
As a newbie you're not meant to have the skills to solo Dagan, the whole point of that particular mission is to introduce the concept of teamwork.
As for the rest of your post? Meh, newbies can be effective in PvP from day one, especially if they team up with others. Attitude > SP
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Seraphi Nephalis
Seraphi Nephalis Corporation
32
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:13:00 -
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Alternatively you could make your own single person corp, find yourself a good chat channel with good people in it(maybe even creating it yourself), and then play however you want. You get the social aspect without the hassle of a large corp being hit by a war-dec all the time.
EVE is about adapting. Being creative and figuring out ways to do what you want despite the challenges you might face. You made the right first step by coming to the forums and asking what to do.
"What a sad world we live in, where politeness is mistaken for weakness."-á - Usagi Yojimbo |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
966
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:30:00 -
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Herbinator d'Arcadie wrote:Choo Kiko Wapi wrote:in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play? lol To them, you exist to be killed. Over and over again. You are no match for them, and you may not be for 3 or 4 years. They get their jollies by killing you. For them, the game is simple. You are just another red plus sign. Going to low sec or to a wormhole ... bad advice. You will die. They exist there only to kill you. Over and over again. At two months you barely have the skills to kill Dagan -- an NPC in an Epic Arc Mission. Not very likely you can take on a real Person Character. The reality is that you actually don't exist to make them happy. It's not your job. Just think of them as a very well written Artificial Intelligence. Now, as you play the game, you win simply by doing the gazillions of things that can be done, and avoid being killed. You will learn a lot. And you will spoil their days. One day you may decide to grief noobies. And that's fine, I guess, because you will CHOOSE that path. But for now, playing smart is something you can do almost from the gitgo ... and it pisses them off no end. You should find another corp, though. Or get friends involved in the game and form your own corp. The Corp's purpose is to help you have fun. For the price, you can't find a game with a better AI. ;)
Dagon can easily be killed at 2 days old.
You can be a reasonable frig or destroyer pilot in a few hours and after a few weeks within a few percent of someone years old.
This char was pvping in low and null from 3 weeks old and many in my corp were younger. One was in null within an hour of starting eve for the first time.
You might not be getting solo kills without a bit of practice but it is totally doable.
I have an alt using dual char training that for a few plex has AF 5 and is training gun skills to max atm.
PVP is not just for veterans esp if you have friends.
Money at its root is a form of rationing.
When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Skurja Volpar
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:58:00 -
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Fit disruptors and have a go.
My first corp got decced a few days after I joined, and the decision was made to just undock and hope for the best, and our noble band of mission runners scored our first kills, regained our pride and never looked back.
Game is what you make of it, and high sec wardeccers really are not bastions of competence. Don't make it easy for them, and have some fun. |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
352
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Posted - 2014.04.19 00:58:00 -
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Strategy at its most basic level is being there firstest with the mostest as the saying goes.
War is not a series of one vs. one fights. Group up fight, and take names. You'll make mistakes at first, but when you start fighting 3 on 1 enough times, you'll learn to win no matter what disparity there may be in your skill points.
Because you disdained all my counsel, and my reproof you ignoredGÇö
I, in my turn, will laugh at your doom; will mock when terror overtakes you; -- Ultimate Griefer's Handbook |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2647
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Posted - 2014.04.19 01:33:00 -
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A Corp leadership that cannot protect members from predatory wardecs should not be leading anything.
Never underestimate the ability of newbies with semi-competent leadership. They can get a lot of kills of expensive ships.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Terminator 2
Omega Boost
1
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Posted - 2014.04.19 01:34:00 -
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Choo Kiko Wapi wrote:in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play?
Clearly this is not the game for you as you lack the creativity, courage or incentive to work around the obstacle.
Please hand over all your assets to me as soon as you log in next time and then never run this game again before it gets messed up in ugly ways. |
Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
352
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Posted - 2014.04.19 04:52:00 -
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Terminator 2 wrote:Choo Kiko Wapi wrote:in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play? Clearly this is not the game for you as you lack the creativity, courage or incentive to work around the obstacle. Please hand over all your assets to me as soon as you log in next time and then never run this game again before it gets messed up in ugly ways.
Wow really guys? The guy makes a cry for help and this is the kind of vitriol that gets vomited out?
"New player bashing will not be tolerated.
18. New members of the EVE Online community are encouraged to use, but are not restricted to the EVE New Citizens Q&A forum. This forum is specifically designed to provide a platform for those who are new to the EVE community to ask questions and learn more about EVE. More experienced forum users are encouraged to participate by assisting new players with helpful and courteous responses. All flaming, trolling and posts of a derogatory nature will be deleted, and will be considered a severe breach of the forum rules."
I'd like to know how Terminator2's response is considered "assisting new players with courteous responses", because it looks an awful lot like "flaming, trolling, and posts of a derogatory nature".
I'm hoping his post is deleted and he receives whatever goes along with a "severe breach of the forum rules".
Him and everyone else in this thread who broken forum rule 18.
Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2970
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Posted - 2014.04.19 05:18:00 -
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Quote:8. New player bashing will not be tolerated.
New members of the EVE Online community are encouraged to use, but are not restricted to the EVE New Citizens Q&A forum. This forum is specifically designed to provide a platform for those who are new to the EVE community to ask questions and learn more about EVE. More experienced forum users are encouraged to participate by assisting new players with helpful and courteous responses. All flaming, trolling and posts of a derogatory nature will be deleted, and will be considered a severe breach of the forum rules.
Removed a post dealing with this.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1938
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Posted - 2014.04.19 07:24:00 -
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as has been stated numerous times, you have quite a few options. i will list some of them in order of personal preference:
- get a few cheap ships and fight back. even if you get massackered, you will take something away from the experience.
- if your corp is unwilling to fight back, you should probably look out for another one.
- move out of highsec. if anyone can shoot you anyway, wardecs become much less scary and chances are, the guys who wardecced you will be too scared to follow you because they are the EVE equivalent of schoolyard bullies.
if you prefer to sit in station and complain rather than following any of the advice you got in this thread, EVE might actually not be the right game for you (no offense).
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
532
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:35:00 -
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Generally speaking, if your corp is demanding that you dock up and do nothing in response to a war-dec, then you should find another corp to join.
Yes, I'm sure they're nice people and all, but the purpose of a corporation is asset-sharing and mutual protection, essentially responding to external threats exactly like war-decs is the vast majority of the reason corps are a thing to begin with, and if they aren't even trying to do so they're the very definition of a bad corp.
So either convince your corp to do something about it (fighting back in an orderly fashion would be my vote, but relocating or simply shifting your income-stream or paying another corp for protection are legitimate as well) or leave, join an NPC corp or a different player corp, and just make a restricted chat channel in which to talk to your old corp-mates. After all, a chat channel was apparently all you were really getting out of the corporation to begin with. |
Lysenko Alland
ubiquitous hurt
Exodus.
9
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:50:00 -
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Choo Kiko Wapi wrote:in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play?
My corporation, which is focused on small-gang PvP, mostly operates out of a major trade hub that a few high-sec mercenary alliances love to camp systematically. We wind up with a wardec from one or two of them every month or so. It doesn't really stop anything we're doing.
Here are a few basic tips that may help:
1) Make an out of corp alt that sits in your station. The alt doesn't have to have anything more than default skills, and can even be on the same account as your main, but leave the alt in an NPC corp. If you're concerned about being camped in station, undock your alt and check things out first. Set a negative standing on your war target corp or alliance so your alt can see them lit up red.
2) When things are very quiet, undock from the station you live in and hit the + sign on your throttle dial to set your speed to max. Let your ship fly off in a straight line for a while. Make some bookmarks. These are known as "insta-undock" bookmarks. When you undock, you have a period of time during which (IF YOU ISSUE NO COMMANDS TO YOUR SHIP) you'll remain invulnerable. You'll also be traveling near max speed. If the FIRST command you issue to your ship is to warp off in the direction you're traveling, you will go from invulnerable to warping instantly, and nobody can catch you. Having instas for stations you use frequently is a huge help.
3) Make some bookmarks at both spots in between celestials in your system ("safe spots") to which you can run when you're being chased, or places that are on-grid from gates but 150+ km off, so that you can check out a gate before landing on it.
4) Watch local. If there are no war targets in local (and you're not in a WH) you won't have war target problems.
There are many techniques to survival, but those are some to get you started. Once they become second nature, wars won't really affect anything you do unless you want to engage a war target or get caught in a highly-coordinated gate camp, which is pretty rare from groups that wardec in high-sec. |
Gregor Parud
450
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Posted - 2014.04.19 12:28:00 -
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This game is full of people who have this lazy and catatonic reaction to anything that comes along their way, actively choosing to not learn, not advance and not taking responsibility. Effectively they're cattle because they choose to be victims, but if you're tired of being a victim (or simply refuse to become one) then all you have to do is to stop being passive, stop thinking like cattle.
The second you become active and start looking for solutions to a problem or ways to avoid the problem in the first place is the second people will stop being able to take advantage of you. The problem is that, most people being cattle, most corporations are terrible traps where lazy/dumb people stick around and drag everyone in their group down to their level, even the ones who might be able to do better/more. So if your CEO and/or the majority of the corp start whining and telling everyone to dock up for the week then you're obviously in the wrong corp as it's filled with clueless cattle who will only hold you back.
Leave them, they can't be helped. Learn to how not to be a target and find a better group of people. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
5215
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Posted - 2014.04.19 15:04:00 -
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Grab an exploration frigate and head out to lowsec. You'll lose a few ships (and maybe a few pods) but along the way you'll end up learning that lowsec isn't as scary as people make it out to be.
Just be prepared to lose a few ships, and then when you don't lose any that will be a pleasant surprise :)
Don't fight back against the wardeccers in hi sec. They don't deserve that kind of respect. Fighting them only gives them the attention they are so desperately seeking.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2971
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Posted - 2014.04.19 18:05:00 -
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Lysenko Alland wrote:Choo Kiko Wapi wrote:in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play? My corporation, which is focused on small-gang PvP, mostly operates out of a major trade hub that a few high-sec mercenary alliances love to camp systematically. We wind up with a wardec from one or two of them every month or so. It doesn't really stop anything we're doing. Here are a few basic tips that may help: 1) Make an out of corp alt that sits in your station. The alt doesn't have to have anything more than default skills, and can even be on the same account as your main, but leave the alt in an NPC corp. If you're concerned about being camped in station, undock your alt and check things out first. Set a negative standing on your war target corp or alliance so your alt can see them lit up red. 2) When things are very quiet, undock from the station you live in and hit the + sign on your throttle dial to set your speed to max. Let your ship fly off in a straight line for a while. Make some bookmarks. These are known as "insta-undock" bookmarks. When you undock, you have a period of time during which (IF YOU ISSUE NO COMMANDS TO YOUR SHIP) you'll remain invulnerable. You'll also be traveling near max speed. If the FIRST command you issue to your ship is to warp off in the direction you're traveling, you will go from invulnerable to warping instantly, and nobody can catch you. Having instas for stations you use frequently is a huge help. 3) Make some bookmarks at both spots in between celestials in your system ("safe spots") to which you can run when you're being chased, or places that are on-grid from gates but 150+ km off, so that you can check out a gate before landing on it. 4) Watch local. If there are no war targets in local (and you're not in a WH) you won't have war target problems. There are many techniques to survival, but those are some to get you started. Once they become second nature, wars won't really affect anything you do unless you want to engage a war target or get caught in a highly-coordinated gate camp, which is pretty rare from groups that wardec in high-sec.
Just wanted to add that you want the insta-undock warp to be over 150+ km. Any lower than that and you won't be able to initiate warp. I recommend flying until you're 300 km out from the station. It's worked well for me.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2652
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:06:00 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Just wanted to add that you want the insta-undock warp to be over 150+ km. Any lower than that and you won't be able to initiate warp. I recommend flying until you're 300 km out from the station. It's worked well for me.
I suggest you make two.
One that is "on-grid". which means more than 150km and less than 200km. From this, you can see the station clearly.
And a second that is "off-grid", i.e. far enough away that you cannot be seen by ships on the station. If you can pilot an Interceptor, make these at 2000km or more by just turning on your microwarpdrive and flying straight for ten minutes (just before you have a shower is the ideal time).
If you do not have access to interceptors, some destroyers can fit 10mn microwarpdrives and capacitor boosters - this may be an option to get to 1000km away without taking an eternity.
By being so far away, you pretty much guarantee that people hunting you will not accidentally find you. By never staying in your off-grid safe for more than 10 seconds, you pretty much guarantee that they will not probe your safe down.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
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