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jason hill
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:33:00 -
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interesting read ... but nothing we probably didnt already know |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:49:00 -
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Correct, it's a representative republic.
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:55:00 -
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It is heartening that more people figure it out ever day.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:14:00 -
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This is a great leap forward. Scientific methods were used, so that makes it official. Now we can say it without being accused of being Commies, hippies, or conspiracy theorists. "Were [sic] not your monkey and so what?"-á -The Sex Pistols (2006) |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.04.18 17:33:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:This is a great leap forward. Scientific methods were used, so that makes it official. Now we can say it without being accused of being Commies, hippies, or conspiracy theorists. Well, technically, we really should wait for a second study to independently confirm the results of the first study.
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2014.04.18 17:36:00 -
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no country runs with democracy
never has
like all political theories, it only works on paper |
jason hill
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.18 17:38:00 -
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then we would probably have to wait for a third study to disavow the second ... and so forth |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2014.04.18 19:21:00 -
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And now some fruit loop will blame "capitalism" and demand that more power be concentrated into the hands of the oligarchs.. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.18 19:27:00 -
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It's a constitutional republic which operates though a democratic process. As far as I know, the only pure democracy to have ever exist, existed aboard pirate ships. Pirate and privateer ships made up the bulk of the continental navy during the revolutionary war. Democracy was adopted as a means by which a constitutional republic may function. Your link, I stopped at "rich and powerful elite", I'll wait for the next enlightening study |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2014.04.18 19:31:00 -
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Hmm, a representative republic that's actually an oligarchy. Sounds like one of the most common forms of government on Earth. Russia comes to mind, but there's also Sudan, Kazakhstan, Central African Republic, Myanmar, Ethiopia, Syria, etc. etc. "Were [sic] not your monkey and so what?"-á -The Sex Pistols (2006) |
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:18:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:And now some fruit loop will blame "capitalism" and demand that more power be concentrated into the hands of the oligarchs..
Nah. However, it is part of why the US got to the point where the socialists could sway the masses to the point where they could take over the reigns.
Just so we are clear.
Oligarch - a very rich businessman with a great deal of political influence
Oligarchs started the Democratic Republic of the United States of America and they lost their control over a century ago. They created the rule book and lost the game
I like fruit loops!
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jason hill
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:41:00 -
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just saying ........ I didn't write it its the bbc .... but I just found their findings worthy of a post |
Crompton Aberforth
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.19 01:57:00 -
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Politics is incredibly interesting to some and incredibly boring to others.
It is a subject which can divide a room in the blink of an eye. I am the space cadet your mother warned you about. |
Max Godsnottlingson
Bitter Veterans
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:21:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Hmm, a representative republic that's actually an oligarchy. Sounds like one of the most common forms of government on Earth. Russia comes to mind, but there's also Sudan, Kazakhstan, Central African Republic, Myanmar, Ethiopia, Syria, etc. etc.
Don't forget to add the UK to that too. More and more we are seeing our government run by 'old school, blue blood, public schoolboy types' and that includes the (so called left wing/socialist) labour party!
(For none UK folk, to us Brits, a public school is a very expensive private school. Not to me confused with a government run school which the rest of us rabble have to use) |
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:52:00 -
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I like Snow. Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!! |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:57:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote: I like fruit loops!
Good for you, but you still avoid the point, as usual. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Catherine Wolfisheim
Terran Republican Guard
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Posted - 2014.04.19 10:35:00 -
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:51:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote: I like fruit loops!
Good for you, but you still avoid the point, as usual.
Your said that someone would come along and say it is capitalism's fault and that we should put more power into the hands of the oligarchs. I implied that the Capitalist Oligarchs already had the power and they lost it to the socialist oligarchs.
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Snagletooth Johnson
Snagle Material Services CAStabouts
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:14:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:This is a great leap forward. Scientific methods were used, so that makes it official. Now we can say it without being accused of being Commies, hippies, or conspiracy theorists. Just becuase you have a study, doesn't mean you're somehow not a commie, hippy or loon.
A shoe on any other foot is still a shoe. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:46:00 -
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Snagletooth Johnson wrote:
A shoe on any other foot is still a shoe.
....but it depends on who designed it. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
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Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
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Posted - 2014.04.19 15:08:00 -
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UK is not a democracy either, and if we are going to be "real" about it, there has probably never been a democratic government in any country ever. Tinfoil hat not even needed. |
jason hill
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.19 15:14:00 -
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nahhh ...I think it is at a local level ...probably not so much at a national level as we don't actually vote for the person but more for the party .This was proved when brown took over from blair ...and we both know that nobody wanted him in charge |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
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Posted - 2014.04.19 15:30:00 -
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Democracy is overrated anyway.
The idea that the voice of some hick has the same weight as mine is disgusting. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2014.04.19 16:29:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote: ... socialist oligarchs. ...
By your own definition, you speak non-sense. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Astenion
Pyromaniacs Anonymous Psychological Meltdown
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Posted - 2014.04.19 16:36:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Democracy is overrated anyway.
The idea that the voice of some hick has the same weight as mine is disgusting.
Call me un-American or dictatorial, but I fully agree with this. The right to vote should be earned, and you should have to pass an evaluation every time you vote in order to earn that right.
People say you're free to be stupid, but where's the freedom FROM stupid people? |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
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Posted - 2014.04.19 20:11:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote: ... socialist oligarchs. ...
By your own definition, you speak non-sense.
You do realize that people with money and political influence can be socialists right?
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Snagletooth Johnson
Snagle Material Services CAStabouts
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:10:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:Democracy is overrated anyway.
The idea that the voice of some hick has the same weight as mine is disgusting. Call me un-American or dictatorial, but I fully agree with this. The right to vote should be earned, and you should have to pass an evaluation every time you vote in order to earn that right. People say you're free to be stupid, but where's the freedom FROM stupid people? That's not un-American, just Un-Progressive. There was never a "right" to vote in the US until the Voting Rights Act of the 1960's. Since the time of the Greeks voting had always been considered a privilege and a responsibilty of citizenship, not a right....and our Founding Fathers agreed with that notion. |
Crompton Aberforth
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.20 00:23:00 -
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Astenion wrote:[quote=Nerath Naaris]
Call me un-American or dictatorial, but I fully agree with this. The right to vote should be earned, and you should have to pass an evaluation every time you vote in order to earn that right.
People say you're free to be stupid, but where's the freedom FROM stupid people?
OMG, I've just realised I am UN-American. Hold the bus!
Whilst I agree people should understand the political system they live in, excluding people would probably just play into the hands of the powers that be. So let's educate and encourage participation and then there will be less 'Stupid'. As the shampoo add with Rachel Hunter taught me: 'It won't happen over night but it will happen.' I am the space cadet your mother warned you about. |
Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.20 01:05:00 -
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Crompton Aberforth wrote:
Whilst I agree people should understand the political system they live in, excluding people would probably just play into the hands of the powers that be. So let's educate and encourage participation and then there will be less 'Stupid'. As the shampoo add with Rachel Hunter taught me: 'It won't happen over night but it will happen.'
Or promise them free stuff.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2014.04.20 06:16:00 -
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I don't think the American political system can ever achieve what it was meant to do. Because, the way it is set up, only a person with an extremely competitive and ethically compromising personality can ever become President. In other words, the people who fall outside of the usual standards of the community's norms are the ones who are best-equipped to become President. Basic wisdom says that cannot endure indefinitely.
-Paraphrase of an Emmit Fox one-shot radio sermon around 1920 "Were [sic] not your monkey and so what?"-á -The Sex Pistols (2006) |
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