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Flamespar
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:07:00 -
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As we head towards another fanfest, I think it is time to reflect on a couple of the things that were promised last fanfest but are yet to manifest.
Three notable examples. 1. The EVE mobile ap, which apparently we were meant to have "in our hands" by this next Fanfest. 2. The vet station which was meant to be released (as a point release in Rubicon apparently). 3. Don't get me started on what was promised as coming "soon" in Dust 514 last year.
This isn't meant to be yet another "where is it CCP?" thread (but seriously CCP, where is it?), but given we are all about to have another dose of CCP kool-aid shoved down our collective throats, I'm curious what do you think is a realistic expectation on what CCP can deliver compared to what they promise?
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http://evechronicle.blogspot.com.au/ https://twitter.com/Flamespar |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:09:00 -
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Expect nothing, you will only get disappointed. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:14:00 -
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Salt and silent hope. Mostly salt though.
Coreli Corporation: Small gang PVP & Drug Production, Apply now! |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:20:00 -
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lol |
Jaun Pacht-Feng
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:24:00 -
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Just like EVE Politics!
Believe half of what you see and nothing that you hear. -á(\_/) (O.o) (> -á<) |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:40:00 -
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"Exploration" "expansion". I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:41:00 -
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Is this an AFK Cloaking thread? |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:43:00 -
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A great night out. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:55:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:A great night out.
Several great nights out. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:58:00 -
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Promises are like stardust in solar winds. Remove insurance. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 12:00:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Source reliability, you saw it on...
...the official forums: Wiggles! Wiggles! ...a player forum: <1% ...a player news source: <3% ...a private news source: <10% ...a CCP tweet: <15% ...Fanfest: <20% ...a dev post on the forums: <25% ...a CSM official statement: <30% ...a devblog: <40% ...a "in development" video: <50% ...the Test Server: if good, >50%, if bad, >75%, if bad and terribly opposed >99.99%
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2014.04.19 12:18:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Source reliability, you saw it on...
...the official forums: Wiggles! Wiggles! ...a player forum: <1% ...a player news source: <3% ...a private news source: <10% ...a CCP tweet: <15% ...Fanfest: <20% ...a dev post on the forums: <25% ...a CSM official statement: <30% ...a devblog: <40% ...a "in development" video: <50% ...the Test Server: if good, >50%, if bad, >75%, if bad and terribly opposed >99.99%
Surprisingly... those aren't bad estimates. However, it does seems as though CCP is less prone to over-promise these days. I imagine the Incarna fiasco had a lot to do with this. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.19 12:21:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:Salt and silent hope. Mostly salt though.
I have learned to like salt...
It goes nicely with popcorn..
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2014.04.19 12:22:00 -
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Pragmatically, considering the track record, it can safely be said that you can expect empty promises. ------------ |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2014.04.19 12:40:00 -
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Divide the promised content by 2 then take half off it, should be realistic enough. :)
I dunno, I remember the fanfest with uber cool graphics about PI.
PI and libraries where you could manufacture skill books, district wars with your neighbors over pollution and overpopulation, and all kinds of neat stuff. Instead we got a click fest, that had to be redesigned and has now little to no game value in itself once it's setup.
So take everything with a grain of salt, strip the promised content down to its bare essence (remove the cool stuff) and that is probably what ends up on TQ. :/ |
virm pasuul
Mine 'N' Refine Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.19 12:58:00 -
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Define "promised" as it is used in this context please. |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:02:00 -
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Don't give deadlines. Ever. At all.
CCP has yet to learn this. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:15:00 -
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More begging and pleading from CCP to stay subscribed because their great, new shiny should be available "soon"? |
marVLs
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:25:00 -
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CCP promises = politics promises |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:49:00 -
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marVLs wrote:CCP promises = politics promises
Not true. Statistically it's more likely that a politician will deliver on a promise than CCP.
Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all. |
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Plug in Baby
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:58:00 -
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Realistic: Nothing.
A friend recently rejoined for the 7 day reactivation thing.
He asked 'Why is the client like 8gig now, wasn't it like 3?, what have they added?!'
I sat there and thought about it for a while and basically came up with Tier 3 BCs and some rebalancing. This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main. |
Kerono Thalmor
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:59:00 -
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I'd say about 15% of what they promised. Kerono Thalmor Former CEO of Thalmor Corporation |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:00:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Source reliability, you saw it on...
...the official forums: Wiggles! Wiggles! ...a player forum: <1% ...a player news source: <3% ...a private news source: <10% ...a CCP tweet: <15% ...Fanfest: <20% ...a dev post on the forums: <25% ...a CSM official statement: <30% ...a devblog: <40% ...a "in development" video: <50% ...the Test Server: if good, >50%, if bad, >75%, if bad and terribly opposed >99.99%
Surprisingly... those aren't bad estimates. However, it does seems as though CCP is less prone to over-promise these days. I imagine the Incarna fiasco had a lot to do with this.
The way to do it is to under promise and over deliver |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:00:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:1. The EVE mobile ap, which apparently we were meant to have "in our hands" by this next Fanfest. This seems even less likely given the recent departure.
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Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:08:00 -
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I expect them to spawn baseless criticism. |
Bronco Platz
Intercosmic Fruit Company
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:30:00 -
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The next version of Seagulls vision, that she promised other the last years, with nothing of it getting live on Tranquility. This signature is under NDA. Sorry. |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:35:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:Expect nothing, you will only get disappointed.
As in marriage
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Kabeerah Kebab
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:40:00 -
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Kerono Thalmor wrote:I'd say about 15% of what they promised.
That's pretty generous.
The actually made negative progress with ambulation -> wis -> incarna
I think -5% to 5% is what you can expect from them |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:44:00 -
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If we are truly blessed, they won't ****-up something that works while trying to fix something unrelated.
/lowered expectations
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:54:00 -
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A lot of really neat visuals for vaporware. However, code bloat will be delivered. CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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