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Beofryn Sedorak
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Posted - 2014.04.27 05:55:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Icewolf7 wrote:Can we get more hints Fozz? maybe a picture with the ship blacked out You will - in a week's time.
Fanfest start in ~100 hours (4 days). |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
431
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Posted - 2014.04.27 06:04:00 -
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Beofryn Sedorak wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Icewolf7 wrote:Can we get more hints Fozz? maybe a picture with the ship blacked out You will - in a week's time. Fanfest start in ~100 hours (4 days).
They'll keep the best for the end. |
O2 jayjay
Failed Diplomacy Failed-Diplomacy
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Posted - 2014.04.27 10:19:00 -
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Come on pilots,
We all know the most popular class are frigs and we all know t3 variants are coming out this fall. its about time |
Mr Doctor
Sex Machineguns Happy Cartel
125
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Posted - 2014.04.27 10:30:00 -
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T3 frigs have been hinted at for literally years. I want them lots but I dont think they'll ever exist at this point!
CCP Fozzie wrote:Here's your hint:
The ships each fall into one of three categories.
One category will be fairly low impact for most players but still represent cool addition(s) to the game that I think many players will enjoy seeing. One category fill a void that we've wanted to cover for quite a while. One category provides more advanced version(s) of one of the most popular ships classes in EVE. 3 - can only be T2 Venture. 1 - is interesting... but will probably end up being a variant of the leopard thats a bit slower but can be manufactured. Or an SoE noob ship... as for 2 - gang link capable destroyers to roll out with upcoming link changes.... |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2729
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Posted - 2014.04.27 10:47:00 -
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Calling the following:
Tech 2 Attack Battlecruisers. *Maybe* as stargate-using, smaller versions of dreadnaughts (with some weaker version of siege) that make killing POSes in low wormholes and highsec more viable.
Some new mining ship
A non-racial ship that is more disposable than a HIC (from CONCORD LP maybe) that can point supercaps but cannot use bubbles. Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
151
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Posted - 2014.04.27 11:05:00 -
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Mr Doctor wrote:T3 frigs have been hinted at for literally years. I want them lots but I dont think they'll ever exist at this point! CCP Fozzie wrote:Here's your hint:
The ships each fall into one of three categories.
One category will be fairly low impact for most players but still represent cool addition(s) to the game that I think many players will enjoy seeing. One category fill a void that we've wanted to cover for quite a while. One category provides more advanced version(s) of one of the most popular ships classes in EVE. 3 - can only be T2 Venture. 1 - is interesting... but will probably end up being a variant of the leopard thats a bit slower but can be manufactured. Or an SoE noob ship... as for 2 - gang link capable destroyers to roll out with upcoming link changes.... 3 will not be the T2 Venture, the clue is in 'version(s)'.
Also it cannot be pirate ships, as that would require 5 or 6 ships if you include SOE.
By process of elimination, it has to be advanced versions of the empire race ships as that would equal 4 new ships, so numbers would add up.
I am guessing it will be navy destroyers.
Number 2 could be the T2 venture, perhaps with a covert ops cloak. Although perhaps not.
Number 1, I have no idea what that could be.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2729
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Posted - 2014.04.27 11:16:00 -
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[troll]
An Iteron variant that sacrifices even the little tank of the original for a PLEX hold?
[/troll] Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Mr Doctor
Sex Machineguns Happy Cartel
125
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Posted - 2014.04.27 11:59:00 -
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Medalyn Isis wrote:Mr Doctor wrote:T3 frigs have been hinted at for literally years. I want them lots but I dont think they'll ever exist at this point! CCP Fozzie wrote:Here's your hint:
The ships each fall into one of three categories.
One category will be fairly low impact for most players but still represent cool addition(s) to the game that I think many players will enjoy seeing. One category fill a void that we've wanted to cover for quite a while. One category provides more advanced version(s) of one of the most popular ships classes in EVE. 3 - can only be T2 Venture. 1 - is interesting... but will probably end up being a variant of the leopard thats a bit slower but can be manufactured. Or an SoE noob ship... as for 2 - gang link capable destroyers to roll out with upcoming link changes.... 3 will not be the T2 Venture, the clue is in 'version(s)'. The "s" is a could be a plural, not will be a plural. |
Claud Tiberius
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Posted - 2014.04.27 12:24:00 -
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"One category will be fairly low impact for most players but still represent cool addition(s) to the game that I think many players will enjoy seeing."
Well since you said "additions(s)" I can only assume it will either be a new-type of ships (among other types such as Recon/Logistics/etc), or new t2 versions of existing ships. But as you said it will have low impact, we can probably rule out all of the 'combat'/'support'/mining ships
"One category fill a void that we've wanted to cover for quite a while."
Not much to go on here. Voids, what voids? Faction Destroyers/BC maybe.
"One category provides more advanced version(s) of one of the most popular ships classes in EVE."
More Faction/Pirate ships? Or maybe ... I don't think you would add T3 BC since, that would take away some of the specialty in T2 BS and T3 cruisers. A similar situation would also happen if you added more T2 Destroyers or T3 Destroyers - both would also take away the specialty in frigates and Cruisers. So maybe these are not combat ships as well... |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
431
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Posted - 2014.04.27 13:45:00 -
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Claud Tiberius wrote: "One category fill a void that we've wanted to cover for quite a while."
Not much to go on here. Voids, what voids? Faction Destroyers/BC maybe.
You see that huge gap between Deep Space Transports and the Fenrir? Yes, right there the gigantic ... void.
And this is an industry themed expansion, so it's likely that industry ships are going to be added and PVPers don't get anything directly*.
*which of course is wrong, because PVPers get soo much more to shoot at with this expansion, they don't need new ships. |
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Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
26
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Posted - 2014.04.27 14:33:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Here's your hint:
The ships each fall into one of three categories.
One category will be fairly low impact for most players but still represent cool addition(s) to the game that I think many players will enjoy seeing. One category fill a void that we've wanted to cover for quite a while. One category provides more advanced version(s) of one of the most popular ships classes in EVE.
Well, let's see.
1) The new Tournament Prize ships most likely. Guristas based it seems. Very low impact, as hardly anyone will own one of these babies.
2) tricky, no real ideas from me on this one.
3) Would guess mining ships, so a T2 Venture perhaps? |
Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals Market and Contract PVP
347
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Posted - 2014.04.27 14:58:00 -
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Its more likely rare / limited edition ships with no real bonusses but some fancy paintjob. I am the Zodiac, I am the stars, You are the sorceress, my priestess of Mars, Queen of the night, swathed in satin black, Your ivory flesh upon my torture rack. |
Hairpins Blueprint
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
38
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Posted - 2014.04.27 15:21:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: One category provides more advanced version(s) of one of the most popular ships classes in EVE.
wow new drake? |
Nagarythe Tinurandir
Cataclysm Enterprises Mordus Angels
182
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Posted - 2014.04.27 16:03:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Tech 2 Attack Battlecruisers. *Maybe* as stargate-using, smaller versions of dreadnaughts (with some weaker version of siege) that make killing POSes in low wormholes and highsec more viable.
the ABCs fill that role more or less. they should have been T2 from the start.
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Rain6637
Team Evil
14224
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Posted - 2014.04.27 19:35:00 -
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mining bonus subsystem. cloaky nulli miner President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
Kueyen
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2014.04.27 20:05:00 -
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My guesses (and the weights I'd give the accuracy thereof):
CCP Fozzie wrote:One category will be fairly low impact for most players but still represent cool addition(s) to the game that I think many players will enjoy seeing. The Whiptail and the Chameleon, Guristas Intercepter frigate and Force Recon Cruiser, Alliance Tournament XII prizes. (70%, because saying "we're adding 6 news ships" is 50% cooler than saying "we're adding 4 new ships", even if the common player will probably never see these, let alone own one)
CCP Fozzie wrote:One category fill a void that we've wanted to cover for quite a while. The Freyja, the Helga and the Katla, Mordu's Legion battleship, cruiser and frigate, filling the missing Caldari/Minmatar non-empire-faction "void". (60%, mostly because of the names)
CCP Fozzie wrote:One category provides more advanced version(s) of one of the most popular ships classes in EVE. T3 Ore Industrial/Mining Barge (counts as only 1 ship, but is multiple version(s)). (40%, because I don't entirely trust CCP to finally hand something awesome to spaceborn miners / industrialists) |
Vulfen
Snuff Box
105
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Posted - 2014.04.27 20:50:00 -
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The problem is CCP will have to use exisisting models if they are going to create new T2 ships.
It would be nice to see a New t2 BC group focused on DPS, however the current commands have good dps as it is, make something more powerful and BS become obsolete
A new T3 class would be nice but it would have to be destroyer size rather than frigate
New faction lines would be nice for the factions that haven't got any in existance currently |
Catherine Laartii
Knights of Xibalba
158
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:03:00 -
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Ranamar wrote: I'm inclined to bet on a third, specialized hauler for each of Caldari and Amarr. A small portion of the community would really like a fuel block hauler, so I'd give one of them a fuel block bay. The other one? ... Honestly, I'm not sure. I'm open to suggestions here.
ETA: Someone posted this on reddit: "Damn, a hauler designed to haul ships would be damn useful. I'm not sure if that's what you meant, but by Odins beard it would be useful." There's always the Orca, and industrials are traditionally so poorly tanked it'd not be worth it, but it'd be interesting. If there were a ship that could move 5-10 fitted frigates around without being a gank magnet, that would be really cool.
I would like to see them tweak the Scorpion to be missile focused, and get a big kin damage bonus. New gallente and minmatar ships would be very interesting; gallente BS with a point range bonus, and minmatar that gets web range bonus. Would be nice if they all balanced well enough.
Scorpion changes to just 5 launchers and a 10% bonus to kinetic damage and 10% ecm effectiveness,
Geddon stays the same, a new amarr attack battleship comes in that's an "attack" battleship with a firing rate bonus,
Gallente get something with a decent point range bonus and basic drone bonuses,
Minmatar get something with web range bonus and damage. Tempest gets a gun or two and switches firing rate bonus to tracking.
This is what I would like to see. :D |
Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1204
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:09:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:T3 Battleships would be sweet. That's probably more than wishful thinking at this point though...
So... basically a Battleship with... Dreadnaught DPS and Dreadnaught tank?
No. AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |
Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1204
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:12:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:scorchlikeshiswhiskey wrote:Battleships with extra-large weapons would be great except for missiles, which would be a miniature Phoenix in the most horrendous ways. That or it would wind up being set of larger Tier 3 BC's by skipping missiles and focusing on more positive aspects. I'd be down for a miniature Phoenix - it would be great for structure bashing in high-sec.
You mean a Marauder? AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |
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Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1204
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:14:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:scorchlikeshiswhiskey wrote:Battleships with extra-large weapons would be great except for missiles, which would be a miniature Phoenix in the most horrendous ways. That or it would wind up being set of larger Tier 3 BC's by skipping missiles and focusing on more positive aspects. I'd be down for a miniature Phoenix - it would be great for structure bashing in high-sec. Yay, make it easier and remove yet another deterrent from High sec wars. Oh, and let's not forget even easier ratting via sniping.
The less deterrents from highsec wars, the better EVE will be.
In fact there needs to be more incentives to have wars. AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |
Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1204
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:15:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Guys, guys. This is an industry expansion. Let's think like industrialists.
...Don't look at me like that. I said industrialists, not miners.CCP Fozzie wrote:Here's your hint:
The ships each fall into one of three categories.
One category will be fairly low impact for most players but still represent cool addition(s) to the game that I think many players will enjoy seeing. One category fill a void that we've wanted to cover for quite a while. One category provides more advanced version(s) of one of the most popular ships classes in EVE. Low-impact category: I'm not exactly sure about this one. The only thing I can think of is "Sisters Rookie Ship", which isn't very industrial, though it fits the "Low Impact" and "Cool to See" descriptors. Covering a Void category: This is probably going to be four racial haulers that are midway between Industrials and Freighters. Advanced Popularity category: T2 Venture. Seriously. The Venture is probably the most well-received ship in all of EVE history and they see incredibly broad usage in everything from newbie mining to elite-level comedy PvP. They're an amazing ship and I have yet to encounter anyone who hates them. We've also already seen that there's a model for them.
That would be majorly disappointing.
AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |
John Ratcliffe
Sarumans Hand
267
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:18:00 -
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What the game is missing is a proper Drone based Marauder. It should have all of the T1 Domi drone bonuses at 10%, with a Drone damage bonus also at 10%, with a sick tank. Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
John Ratcliffe
Sarumans Hand
267
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:19:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Guys, guys. This is an industry expansion. Let's think like industrialists.
...Don't look at me like that. I said industrialists, not miners.CCP Fozzie wrote:Here's your hint:
The ships each fall into one of three categories.
One category will be fairly low impact for most players but still represent cool addition(s) to the game that I think many players will enjoy seeing. One category fill a void that we've wanted to cover for quite a while. One category provides more advanced version(s) of one of the most popular ships classes in EVE. Low-impact category: I'm not exactly sure about this one. The only thing I can think of is "Sisters Rookie Ship", which isn't very industrial, though it fits the "Low Impact" and "Cool to See" descriptors. Covering a Void category: This is probably going to be four racial haulers that are midway between Industrials and Freighters. Advanced Popularity category: T2 Venture. Seriously. The Venture is probably the most well-received ship in all of EVE history and they see incredibly broad usage in everything from newbie mining to elite-level comedy PvP. They're an amazing ship and I have yet to encounter anyone who hates them. We've also already seen that there's a model for them. That would be majorly disappointing.
Agreed. More useless ships that no-one will use.
Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
Catherine Laartii
Knights of Xibalba
158
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:29:00 -
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Since it's been linked on other threads but glossed over in favor of wide-eyed optimism (myself of which I am ALWAYS guilty of for yet to be announced features), I'm going to list the ship types that HAVE been announced as coming.
3 new barge types, likely t2, possibly focused on ice mining or range or something to set them apart,
1 t2 version of the venture, likely specialized for gas mining, which will be extremely useful. Hope it comes with a covops for ninja null gas mining,
1 t2 version of the orca, which will likely focus less on links and more on moving things; sort of like a halfway freighter for moving ships that's a little more flexible and resilient. If not that, then likely specialize on building on the orca's command role.
1 t2 rorqual. This is going to be an interesting one. Something that expensive I could see not only focusing on ore processing, but possibly having the facilities to manufacture items. Not ships certainly, but things like modules, ammunition, and rigs. Sort of a mobile manufacturing base that could be extremely helpful in wormholes or lowsec.
Here are some pics linked earlier by someone detailing the new indy ships. It's what looks like a new t2 mack, rorq, and orca as part of the lineup: http://imgur.com/a/QMLbl
To be completely fair, if we're talking about including the new alliance tourny boats, it could JUST be the mack and not the other 2 barges. That would make more sense from the perspective of having a barge that's specifically focused on ice-mining. |
Nagarythe Tinurandir
Cataclysm Enterprises Mordus Angels
183
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:31:00 -
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Vulfen wrote:The problem is CCP will have to use exisisting models if they are going to create new T2 ships.
It would be nice to see a New t2 BC group focused on DPS, however the current commands have good dps as it is, make something more powerful and BS become obsolete
the last thing eve needs right now are BCs with even more DPS. There is no need to succumb to power creep, now that most of the rebalancing effort is done. let them give new toys to all the indus out there. make them come out of high sec. |
Beofryn Sedorak
15
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:34:00 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:Since it's been linked on other threads but glossed over in favor of wide-eyed optimism (myself of which I am ALWAYS guilty of for yet to be announced features), I'm going to list the ship types that HAVE been announced as coming. 3 new barge types, likely t2, possibly focused on ice mining or range or something to set them apart, 1 t2 version of the venture, likely specialized for gas mining, which will be extremely useful. Hope it comes with a covops for ninja null gas mining, 1 t2 version of the orca, which will likely focus less on links and more on moving things; sort of like a halfway freighter for moving ships that's a little more flexible and resilient. If not that, then likely specialize on building on the orca's command role. 1 t2 rorqual. This is going to be an interesting one. Something that expensive I could see not only focusing on ore processing, but possibly having the facilities to manufacture items. Not ships certainly, but things like modules, ammunition, and rigs. Sort of a mobile manufacturing base that could be extremely helpful in wormholes or lowsec. Here are some pics linked earlier by someone detailing the new indy ships. It's what looks like a new t2 mack, rorq, and orca as part of the lineup: http://imgur.com/a/QMLblTo be completely fair, if we're talking about including the new alliance tourny boats, it could JUST be the mack and not the other 2 barges plus the venture. That would make more sense from the perspective of having a barge that's specifically focused on ice-mining.
If you're basing your speculation that we'll get new barges, Orca, and Rorq on those pictures then your theory falls apart when you realize that that mackinaw has been released as a skin already, implying the Orca and Rorq are most likely also just skins.
Could you please provide some references for your claims? I'm always eager to review waht's been claimed, implied, speculated, or leaked. |
Catherine Laartii
Knights of Xibalba
158
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:53:00 -
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Beofryn Sedorak wrote: If you're basing your speculation that we'll get new barges, Orca, and Rorq on those pictures then your theory falls apart when you realize that that mackinaw has been released as a skin already, implying the Orca and Rorq are most likely also just skins.
a t2 Orca in itself isn't very far fetched as a possibility, But having them add another Rorqual without first fixing the existing one (They stated in the blog on refining changes that they know the Rorq needs more "love") just doesn't seem very realistic and a bit like "Wide eyed optimism".
Additionally, People have already done some data mining off the dev server (not SiSi) and found placeholders for the Mordu's Legion Frigate, Cruiser, and Battleship. They are speculated to fill the "void" of no "non-empire" faction missile boats which CCP has openly stated they would like to fill.
The t2 Venture has all but been confirmed.
Could you please provide some references for your claims? I'm always eager to review waht's been claimed, implied, speculated, or leaked.
Edited my post after reviewing some more things. As far as I can tell, it's just the mack that's getting another t2 variant; not others. In regards to the data mining, it makes FAR more sense in terms of release progression for them to focus on the release of t2 ore ships as the 4 new boats, and not ncessarily new pirate faction boats. Here's what I'm basing my assumptions on:
"One category will be fairly low impact for most players but still represent cool addition(s) to the game that I think many players will enjoy seeing." That would likely be either what they have planned for the t2 orca and the t2 rorqual, as they will likely have unique roles that won't impact gameplay too heavily, but open up more possibilities and flexibility.
"One category fill a void that we've wanted to cover for quite a while." Dedicated t2 gas mining boat that's applicable for null; the t2 venture (if they're smart about it) will get a covops cloak to be useful in null and wormhole space to assist with that side of industry.
"One category provides more advanced version(s) of one of the most popular ships classes in EVE." In terms of the single consistantly largest used ship class, that would be a mining barge. In the same way it would make sense for them to make a t2 venture with better viability for gas mining in hostile space, it would make sense for them to add a ship for low/null/wh mining that's less likely to get ganked, since ganking barges (hulkageddon, anyone?) is a prevalent issue with mining in the game, having a barge with a covops gives players more options to do industry in higher-risk areas of the game.
I am very curious to see what they have planned for the orca and rorqual, btw. Manufacturing Rorq might be a unique and interesting thing to see added, at the very least. |
Beofryn Sedorak
15
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Posted - 2014.04.27 23:01:00 -
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I'm still curious what's convinced you so strongly that we're getting a new Barge/Exhumer.
Being that it was a seemingly off the cuff announcement, ship class could very easily refer to "mining ships" with no designation of size. Unless you're basing it off of information I haven't yet seen I'm not yet convinced we're getting a new Barge/Exhumer. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1280
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Posted - 2014.04.27 23:02:00 -
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There already is a T2 Barge. It's called an Exhumer and comes in 3 variants already. Which they are doing a balance pass on already. Either you or CCP are delusional if you think there need to be additional exhumer's. |
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