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Zar Dim
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Posted - 2006.05.19 21:46:00 -
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in the upcoming patch???
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dabster
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Posted - 2006.05.19 21:47:00 -
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Because they are UBER compared to most other things in the game ? ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |
Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2006.05.19 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: Naughty Boy on 19/05/2006 21:47:58 Because they can't nerf them next downtime so we'll have to wait ?
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inSpirAcy
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Posted - 2006.05.19 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Naughty Boy Edited by: Naughty Boy on 19/05/2006 21:47:58 Because they can't nerf them next downtime so we'll have to wait ?
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Itzena
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Posted - 2006.05.19 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Naughty Boy Edited by: Naughty Boy on 19/05/2006 21:47:58 Because they can't nerf them next downtime so we'll have to wait ?
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.05.19 23:52:00 -
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Basically, because they break the big missiles versus small ship penalties. That's what they're meant to do but they do it far too severely. When you can pop an interceptor with precision cruise missiles, something's broken.
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Zakgram
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Posted - 2006.05.20 01:12:00 -
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What about Stealth Bombers? They also use cruises.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.20 01:22:00 -
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Yup, but stealth bombers have a hidden ship bonus to make cruise missile have light missile explosion radius, so theyre not affected by the change. And theyre frigates.
BSes smacking frigs around with cruise launchers, has gotten a little silly though. One might even say overpowered ;) ----------------
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Jackkal
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Posted - 2006.05.20 02:00:00 -
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not this debate again. truth is to many people whine that thier cheap 100k frig can't blow up a 100 mil dollar ship solo. I battleship should wipe a frig out easy with a very few shots. D
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.20 02:04:00 -
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No, it shouldnt.
To quote oveur: "The battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile." ----------------
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.05.20 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru No, it shouldnt.
To quote oveur: "The battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile."
As long as they can't turn around and pwn a BS that is setup to kill another BS just as easy as it pwned the frigate it will never be a solo pwnmobile. So you make absolutely no point whatsoever.
Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.05.20 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jackkal not this debate again. truth is to many people whine that thier cheap 100k frig can't blow up a 100 mil dollar ship solo. I battleship should wipe a frig out easy with a very few shots. D
are we playing the same game?
Never ever gonna happen.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2006.05.20 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jackkal not this debate again. truth is to many people whine that thier cheap 100k frig can't blow up a 100 mil dollar ship solo. I battleship should wipe a frig out easy with a very few shots. D
Except those frigs cost 20mill isk. ................. |
Johnny Twoshoe
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Posted - 2006.05.20 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: keepiru No, it shouldnt.
To quote oveur: "The battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile."
As long as they can't turn around and pwn a BS that is setup to kill another BS just as easy as it pwned the frigate it will never be a solo pwnmobile. So you make absolutely no point whatsoever.
The Raven can. Use Precision CMs on frigates, turn around and use Damage CMs on battleships. I won't even mention the Raven's crazy tank (Oops ). ~~~
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Weirda
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Posted - 2006.05.20 02:40:00 -
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Edited by: Weirda on 20/05/2006 02:41:57
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: keepiru No, it shouldnt.
To quote oveur: "The battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile."
As long as they can't turn around and pwn a BS that is setup to kill another BS just as easy as it pwned the frigate it will never be a solo pwnmobile. So you make absolutely no point whatsoever.
do you need hug Kay? seriously - you making a Tool out of youself with statements like these and weirda <3 you and want to save you from youself.
please take a logic and critical thinking class and delete the last 15 or so post you've made over the last couple of days...
weirda is NOT trying to be mean or start fight.
EDIT: precision cruise were not 'working as intended' (ie overpowered). if you read notes the 'nerf' is in line with the 'big picture'. __ NOS AS WCS Idea #223579 |
Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.05.20 02:50:00 -
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honestly weapons systems should kinda swing both ways, a frigate even an assault frigate shouldnt really dent a BS with its small bore weapons just as the big BS weapons cant track the frigate.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.05.20 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker honestly weapons systems should kinda swing both ways, a frigate even an assault frigate shouldnt really dent a BS with its small bore weapons just as the big BS weapons cant track the frigate.
Yea, but the BS has the option of carrying a lot of weapons which can deverstate the frig anyway, which the frigate can't even hope to dream of. That means that frigates unable to hurt BS would be slaughtered by the secondary weapons while doing nothing and would be used a lot less as a result.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2006.05.20 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker honestly weapons systems should kinda swing both ways, a frigate even an assault frigate shouldnt really dent a BS with its small bore weapons just as the big BS weapons cant track the frigate.
Yea, but the BS has the option of carrying a lot of weapons which can deverstate the frig anyway, which the frigate can't even hope to dream of. That means that frigates unable to hurt BS would be slaughtered by the secondary weapons while doing nothing and would be used a lot less as a result.
you can still swarm battleships with interceptors and stuff, you cant expect to take on a big ship with a bunch of small ones without a few losses, otherwise everyone would just pvp in frigs because it has little risk and tons of "reward" battleships shouldnt be 100% helpeless vs frigates imo ------ FPDOMS MINER KILLBOARD |
eve warrior
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Posted - 2006.05.20 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur Basically, because they break the big missiles versus small ship penalties. That's what they're meant to do but they do it far too severely. When you can pop an interceptor with precision cruise missiles, something's broken.
LMAO. that is so funny. Just because there is something that can kill your precious little ships now, it has to be Nurfed... ceptors are tacklers and are expected to die. They are cheap so i dont see the problem here, i really dont understand why a Big ship cant wtfpawn a small ship. U dont see BS pilots complaing that a Missile from a dread does over 4000k dmg ???
Get over it or get a bigger ship
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Gorion Wassenar
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Posted - 2006.05.20 05:05:00 -
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I honestly think that this reduction, though needed, is a bit too much. I mean, why bother calling them precision missles now? ------------------
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.20 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Zakgram What about Stealth Bombers? They also use cruises.
bombers are fine, altho I'd rather see stealth bombers use torps with around heavy missile sig.
Make them fill the omgwtfbbq role. Get in close, fire a few torps, pop the unlucky frig/dessy, or with backup take down some unlucky cruiser, warp, cloak, enjoy?
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.20 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Jackkal not this debate again. truth is to many people whine that thier cheap 100k frig can't blow up a 100 mil dollar ship solo. I battleship should wipe a frig out easy with a very few shots. D
are we playing the same game?
Never ever gonna happen.
It already happens. Sniper BS with tracking comps and whatnot will smoke a frig that isn'tmoving properly at range.
Hell, we got cruisers which can do it. Eagles can be nasty vs frigs at range, so can the muninn(I think).
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.20 05:21:00 -
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The effect is not big enough to call the nerf in itself overpowered. You can do the mat for yourself. The player guide gives you the formulas. The calculator in game can help you if you're weak with pen&paper. --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |
Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.20 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: eve warrior U dont see BS pilots complaing that a Missile from a dread does over 4000k dmg ???
I hope you mean 4000. If I took 4000k from a citadel torp I'd be screaming.
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twit brent
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Posted - 2006.05.20 05:24:00 -
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Sniper BS cant hurt a frig if the frig had half a brain and new about transversal.
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Chain Gang
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Posted - 2006.05.20 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Chain Gang on 20/05/2006 20:05:33
Quote: EDIT: precision cruise were not 'working as intended' (ie overpowered). if you read notes the 'nerf' is in line with the 'big picture'
Complete rubbish ........ Precision missiles hit my crow for 0.0 - 0.1 damage .. yeah their very uber .....
Are we nerfing the game so "any idiot can fly an interceptor" or are we just doing it so a 50k frigate can lock and hold down battleships ....
Shall we just add a "I'm a muppet and need to win button"
Seriously CCP at least try and keep some skill in the game or just change the name to Lineage Space.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.05.20 20:04:00 -
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Quote: Hell, we got cruisers which can do it. Eagles can be nasty vs frigs at range, so can the muninn(I think).
Doh their designed to do it ............
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Zekk Pacus
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Posted - 2006.05.20 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
you can still swarm battleships with interceptors and stuff, you cant expect to take on a big ship with a bunch of small ones without a few losses, otherwise everyone would just pvp in frigs because it has little risk and tons of "reward" battleships shouldnt be 100% helpeless vs frigates imo
They're not. Drones + Heavy NOS + web = omgWTFWHEREDIDMYINTERCEPTORGO. But with t2 cruise launchers on a raven you can wftomgbbqpwn anything from an interceptor to another BS, which makes it overpowered.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.05.20 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Zooish on 20/05/2006 20:15:28 Everyone seems to be flying around in Frigate / Interceptor EW gank squads why ?
Because CCP have gone to far ...
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Goodtime Girl
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Posted - 2006.05.20 20:14:00 -
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Quote: They're not. Drones + Heavy NOS + web = omgWTFWHEREDIDMYINTERCEPTORGO. But with t2 cruise launchers on a raven you can wftomgbbqpwn anything from an interceptor to another BS, which makes it overpowered.
Simply untrue ...... I suggest you either get the correct method and fitting to fly the different types of ships ...
Removing Nos from the equation (because thats a different argument) but any ship flying constantly around a battleship at 15km deserves to die ......
My Crow v Raven with Precision Missiles = 0 Damage (Keep the speed and transversal)
My Vagabond v Raven with Precision Missiles = Tank all day
My Cerberus v Raven with Precision Missiles = Tank all day
My Eagle v Raven with Precision Missiles = Tank all day
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