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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:36:00 -
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FANTASTIC VOYAGE
The original is such a fun film when you're a kid. So many boys my age were "awakened" by the presence of Raquel Welch.
It is in need of updating though. I recently saw the film on our "old movie station", and a lot of the medical science is really wrong and so many new things have been discovered. "Inner Space" was quite similar, but had a completely different premise and story.
So, I'm actually excited for this, especially with David Goyer writing, and James Cameron throwing money at it as producer. Director and casting are hopefully interesting. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Graygor
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:38:00 -
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I havent seen the original, but yes to more quality Science fiction. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Random McNally
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:41:00 -
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Sorry, but no.
I loved the original, but this just propagates the whole "remake" mentality.
Leave a great piece of film alone. Just say "no". Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com In Game Channel HighDragChat |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:52:00 -
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Random McNally wrote:Sorry, but no.
I loved the original, but this just propagates the whole "remake" mentality.
Leave a great piece of film alone. Just say "no".
For me, this one is a bit removed from that mindset. The dialogue and special effects in the original are extremely dated. It's seriously at the point where all interest will be eventually lost in it.
It's not anywhere near the endless remakes/reboots that have infected the comic book films (I still can't believe we are on the 2nd iteration of a Spidey series).
This situation is at least an inspired "one off" of an original, yet dated, film. Hopefully, they can keep it from having sequels. That would quickly get redundant with this concept ("Which body organ do they save this time ?") "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Graygor
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:19:00 -
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You ever think they will remake Metropolis? "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Random McNally
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:28:00 -
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I get where this may be "near and dear", but again, I must respectfully disagree. Dont get me wrong, Krix. You and I are of a similar generation. If they do a "one and done" with Fantastic Voyage and it's successful, then is Marathon Man next? How about 1984 or Soylent Green? What happens when "Jaws" looks too dated? Or, god help us all, "Alien"?
Fantastic Voyage is one of my favorite "old school" sci fi movies and it makes me cringe that they would take that pleasant memory and tarnish it with a remake.
I realize that we will need to agree to disagree (sorry about all the cliche lines) . Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com In Game Channel HighDragChat |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:29:00 -
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Graygor wrote:You ever think they will remake Metropolis?
I hope not. Part of what makes it great is realizing just how old it is and how difficult to do the effects back then. It's a beautiful achievement.
Just about the only silent film people will actually sit down to watch. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:42:00 -
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Random McNally wrote:I get where this may be "near and dear", but again, I must respectfully disagree. Dont get me wrong, Krix. You and I are of a similar generation. If they do a "one and done" with Fantastic Voyage and it's successful, then is Marathon Man next? How about 1984 or Soylent Green? What happens when "Jaws" looks too dated? Or, god help us all, "Alien"?
Fantastic Voyage is one of my favorite "old school" sci fi movies and it makes me cringe that they would take that pleasant memory and tarnish it with a remake.
I realize that we will need to agree to disagree (sorry about all the cliche lines) .
I don't know. One isn't going to ever get a better version of "1984" than the 1984 version . The issues in "Soylent Green" aren't really relevant anymore (similarly to all the telekenesis hoakum from the 1970s). "Jaws" and "Alien" are sort of in their own rarified field....so respected by the public and the intelligentsia that it would be akin to re-making "Gone With the Wind".
It's an interesting question though. What makes some films seem to be invulnerable to re-making? I think anyone proposing an update or sequel to "Dazed and Confused" would be laughed out of LA.
But "The Exorcist" is one of those rarified films, and look how it's re-make turned out. Ugh. I personally just want the public to enjoy decent movies, not recycled schlock. But that's what the international (and 3rd world) audience wants.........fast chases and explosions. The concept does not really matter. So H'wood is torn between artistic integrity, and just how much money they can shake out of worldwide audiences. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Random McNally
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:04:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Random McNally wrote:I get where this may be "near and dear", but again, I must respectfully disagree. Dont get me wrong, Krix. You and I are of a similar generation. If they do a "one and done" with Fantastic Voyage and it's successful, then is Marathon Man next? How about 1984 or Soylent Green? What happens when "Jaws" looks too dated? Or, god help us all, "Alien"?
Fantastic Voyage is one of my favorite "old school" sci fi movies and it makes me cringe that they would take that pleasant memory and tarnish it with a remake.
I realize that we will need to agree to disagree (sorry about all the cliche lines) . I don't know. One isn't going to ever get a better version of "1984" than the 1984 version . The issues in "Soylent Green" aren't really relevant anymore (similarly to all the telekenesis hoakum from the 1970s). "Jaws" and "Alien" are sort of in their own rarified field....so respected by the public and the intelligentsia that it would be akin to re-making "Gone With the Wind". It's an interesting question though. What makes some films seem to be invulnerable to re-making? I think anyone proposing an update or sequel to "Dazed and Confused" would be laughed out of LA. But "The Exorcist" is one of those rarified films, and look how it's re-make turned out. Ugh. I personally just want the public to enjoy decent movies, not recycled schlock. But that's what the international (and 3rd world) audience wants.........fast chases and explosions. The concept does not really matter. So H'wood is torn between artistic integrity, and just how much money they can shake out of worldwide audiences. Can you see the remake where the blood clot in the brain isn't really a blood clot, but an invasion of genetically engineered bacterium? Action Star Hero lead will leave the submersible despite the protests of Action Star Hero's Love Interest, strike a pose and open fire in the in the brain stem, dropping hundreds of these bacterium with his pinpoint accuracy. The bacterium will band together and a rollercoaster chase scene will follow, weapon fire, and leading the bacterium into the lymphatic system to be burned away.
Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com In Game Channel HighDragChat |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:10:00 -
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Random McNally wrote: Can you see the remake where the blood clot in the brain isn't really a blood clot, but an invasion of genetically engineered bacterium? Action Star Hero lead will leave the submersible despite the protests of Action Star Hero's Love Interest, strike a pose and open fire in the in the brain stem, dropping hundreds of these bacterium with his pinpoint accuracy. The bacterium will band together and a rollercoaster chase scene will follow, weapon fire, and leading the bacterium into the lymphatic system to be burned away.
...and they have to stop before every procedure to consult with the insurance company It would at least make the story current. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:30:00 -
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Hollywood is officially out of original ideas.
Remake ALL the things!
Reboot ALL the remakes!
Reboot ALL the reboots!
Remake ALL the reboots!
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Gregor Parud
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:38:00 -
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Just be careful, before you know it Will Smith gets involved and it degenerates into over the top badassery and bullshit. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:08:00 -
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(The Onion)
James Cameron Says Future Of Movies Will Be Watching Them While Sitting On His Lap "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
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Posted - 2014.05.02 21:29:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Hollywood is officially out of original ideas.
Remake ALL the things!
Reboot ALL the remakes!
Reboot ALL the reboots!
Remake ALL the reboots!
Hell, Hollywood stole most of their ideas from other countries cinema's, the likes of Akira Kurosawa comes to mind. But, to be honest, most story lines had been conceived prior to film, they were just covered in literature and on stage prior to the silver screen. Yes, there are a few stories that came from the silver screen, but not many. The arts have only so many motifs that work and many have been using them for a long long time. |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:29:00 -
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Graygor wrote:You ever think they will remake Metropolis?
This one could be interesting to watch, tho I would love a remake of other classics like Forbidden Planet, I love those old Sci-Fi/Horror flicks of the era.
For reasons unknown the scene where the alien machine barely moves due to the low iq of one of the crew members (that had like 200 IQ) made me laugh and still makes me laugh today, also LESLIE NIELSEN I know he is still around somewhere, I know! He never died! Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
jason hill
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:40:00 -
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remake this one ! |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.03 16:17:00 -
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I read somewhere Tarantino was interested in doing a remake of that.
Or it may have been Robert Rodriguez.
Either way would watch. Dorian Trollmak 9 - 0 in craps given. **** Miley Cyrus |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:26:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:
Hell, Hollywood stole most of their ideas from other countries cinema's, the likes of Akira Kurosawa comes to mind. But, to be honest, most story lines had been conceived prior to film, they were just covered in literature and on stage prior to the silver screen. Yes, there are a few stories that came from the silver screen, but not many. The arts have only so many motifs that work and many have been using them for a long long time.
Is there not something like only 7 basic Themes and Stories to actually tell? All is "variation". "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:28:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote:Graygor wrote:You ever think they will remake Metropolis? This one could be interesting to watch, tho I would love a remake of other classics like Forbidden Planet, I love those old Sci-Fi/Horror flicks of the era. For reasons unknown the scene where the alien machine barely moves due to the low iq of one of the crew members (that had like 200 IQ) made me laugh and still makes me laugh today, also LESLIE NIELSEN I know he is still around somewhere, I know! He never died!
Leslie Nielson was in tons of old gangster noir films and TV shows, but it's impossible to watch any of them now without laughing. Our brains automatically translate everything he utters to that comedic deadpan from Airplane. Never experienced this with another actor. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
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Posted - 2014.05.04 05:07:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Is there not something like only 7 basic Themes and Stories to actually tell? All is "variation".
The total number is debateable, but there are not many.
What story tellers rely on is that you have approximately 12 archetypes and as many as 36 plots...but I would probably stick with 20. If you really break it down it is 7 at its most basic of interpretations.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2014.05.04 08:30:00 -
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There is no excuse for having two white house down films within a few months with the exact same plot. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Slade Trillgon
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:There is no excuse for having two white house down films within a few months with the exact same plot.
I guess I am lucky to say that I am oblivious to what you speak of. Oh the glory of not watching T.V. outside of the little that is shown at work.
But I am sure you are spot on |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:31:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Is there not something like only 7 basic Themes and Stories to actually tell? All is "variation".
The total number is debateable, but there are not many. What story tellers rely on is that you have approximately 12 archetypes and as many as 36 plots...but I would probably stick with 20. If you really break it down it is 7 at its most basic of interpretations.
Yeah. I think the idea of 7 of them is from Plato or something.
man against man man against nature man against himself man against God man against society man caught in the middle man and woman
OR:
unrecognised virtue at last recognised (Cinderella) the Fatal Flaw (Achilles) Debt that Must be Paid, the fate that catches up with all of us sooner or later (Faust) standard triangular plot of two women and one man, or two men and one woman (Tristan) Spider and the Fly (Othello) Boy meets Girl, Boy loses Girl, Boy either finds or does not find Girl The Gift taken Away (Orpheus) "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.04 15:49:00 -
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Someone finally said it: Johnny Depp Is Not A Good Actor
"It doesnGÇÖt feel like prancing around in a pirate costume doing a knock-off Keith Richards impression for four movies makes him a great actor. Even Keith Richards earned his swagger through making some of the greatest music in history and some pretty hard living. Depp just threw on some eyeliner and a bad accent and called it acting.GÇ¥
"And the more heGÇÖs worked with Tim Burton, the more their relationship has gone from symbiotic to toxic -- what once was a happy and mutually beneficial coupling that gave us films like Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood, is now giving us total **** shows like Dark Shadows" "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
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Posted - 2014.05.04 18:00:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Someone finally said it: Johnny Depp Is Not A Good Actor "It doesnGÇÖt feel like prancing around in a pirate costume doing a knock-off Keith Richards impression for four movies makes him a great actor. Even Keith Richards earned his swagger through making some of the greatest music in history and some pretty hard living. Depp just threw on some eyeliner and a bad accent and called it acting.GÇ¥ "And the more heGÇÖs worked with Tim Burton, the more their relationship has gone from symbiotic to toxic -- what once was a happy and mutually beneficial coupling that gave us films like Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood, is now giving us total **** shows like Dark Shadows"
I somewhat agree. I was a Depp fan boy for a long time, but just because he got type casted, whether through his own doing or others, does not negate that he has done some great acting....imho
Keanu Reeves on the other hand..... |
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