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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.16 03:25:00 -
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Greetings,
The New Raven Skin is out on SISI. I think it is a tad washed out compaired to all the other Caldari skins there - I would like to see more contrast in the dark and the lighter gray/greys on the hull, when you look at the others you may see this as well.
Figured someone should post up a commentary on it and see what comes of it - I would like to see our new raven with a stunning premier and so chime in... commetary and even post some pics, if you really feel the urge to hit the Tri-exporter and some skin mods have at it...
My vote:
X - looks good, needs a bit more love on the skin and I think it is a tad shiny and lacks some contrast. but otherwise I think WIN maybe a tad more on the bump map (if EVE has them for more defined edges and surface items. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
171
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Posted - 2011.11.16 06:57:00 -
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Needs a bit higher resolution on the front 'nose' thing. Textures look stretched. Everything else looks great. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
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Posted - 2011.11.16 10:51:00 -
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Needs to have something in the design to show this is a missile specialist, i.e Drake with the launch bays built into the skin,
As we don't have launchers we should have at least a clue in the skin. Some one tell me where in that design missiles launch from ?
Not enough imagination gone into the new design, Its a boring featureless flying brick with no clue for its function.
CCP have done some good with all the new stuff :) but its a wasted opportunity for the Raven redesign really. : (
Tal
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Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics BRABODEN
456
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Posted - 2011.11.16 13:29:00 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:Greetings,
The New Raven Skin is out on SISI. I think it is a tad washed out compaired to all the other Caldari skins there - I would like to see more contrast in the dark and the lighter gray/greys on the hull, when you look at the others you may see this as well.
I don't think the texture is entirely finished. Every other Caldari texture (except the Naga, which is still being worked on and in the same state as the Raven) has the variation in shades of light and dark that you're looking for. Just wait for the final version, it'll be the same. |
Krell Kroenen
Miners In Possession
15
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Posted - 2011.11.16 15:39:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Needs to have something in the design to show this is a missile specialist, i.e Drake with the launch bays built into the skin,
As we don't have launchers we should have at least a clue in the skin. Some one tell me where in that design missiles launch from ?
Not enough imagination gone into the new design, Its a boring featureless flying brick with no clue for its function.
CCP have done some good with all the new stuff :) but its a wasted opportunity for the Raven redesign really. : (
Tal
Well if I am not mistaken CCP wants to add missile hard points some day, to be akin to turrets. But I agree I am disappointed by the out come of the "new" Raven. It just seems they upped the poly count tweaked the engines a little and gave it a neck beard.
It still looks like it was made from left over parts they had laying around which I thought was suppose to be a Minmatar trait. |
Alsyth
Night Warder
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Posted - 2011.11.16 16:15:00 -
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Not different enough to justify the time spent on it in my opinion :x I would have liked it to be really different, like the new Scorpion. |
Oberine Noriepa
197
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Posted - 2011.11.16 16:26:00 -
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I like it. |
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
18
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Posted - 2011.11.16 16:59:00 -
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As we all know in the future, missiles materialize from the bottom of the ship so graphics for launcher bays aren't really required. In this enlightened Eve age we live in, this is an accepted fact - just like being towed into a station is the height of technical excellence!!
/end sarcasm I am aware of my own ignorance, and painfully aware of yours |
Rixiu
North Star Networks The Kadeshi
8
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Posted - 2011.11.16 17:28:00 -
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I like it, dat ass...
Alsyth wrote:Not different enough to justify the time spent on it in my opinion :x I would have liked it to be really different, like the new Scorpion.
So you want a ship that looks like a raven?
http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200303/tos-009-romulan-bird-of-prey/320x240.jpg
There is a ship painted as a bird, still want a ship that looks like a bird? |
Pierced Brosmen
Priory Of The Lemon
6
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Posted - 2011.11.16 19:26:00 -
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I like the new raven, especialy the Golem.
BUT.... with the general change to the caldari navy ships, the navy raven looks like it was built out of lego, with randomly colored blocks... it looks aweful :( |
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.16 19:56:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Needs to have something in the design to show this is a missile specialist, i.e Drake with the launch bays built into the skin,
As we don't have launchers we should have at least a clue in the skin. Some one tell me where in that design missiles launch from ?
Not enough imagination gone into the new design, Its a boring featureless flying brick with no clue for its function.
CCP have done some good with all the new stuff :) but its a wasted opportunity for the Raven redesign really. : (
Tal
They're considering giving us missile turrets which means the drake will have to be redone as well.
Unlike the previous raven though this ship feels that much more dangerous now, very battelship worthy now with enough fire control to be able to launch and control vollies of missiles.
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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2011.11.16 22:03:00 -
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As far as I am concerned the only problem with the old Raven was it had a really low poly count compared to some other ships. While I normally think that most of the Caldari subcaps are hideous the Raven was one of the more interesting models despite its asymmetry. The new version has kept its character but improved the look of the model. I approve.
Save the total redesign from the ground up for the Moa and the Bantam. |
Loni Elahhez
Easter Bunnies Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.11.16 22:10:00 -
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For those in doubt what the new raven looks like. here's some pics of a golem. which has the same graphics but different color.
http://eve.dguild.eu/images/crusiblegolem/1.jpg http://eve.dguild.eu/images/crusiblegolem/2.jpg http://eve.dguild.eu/images/crusiblegolem/3.jpg http://eve.dguild.eu/images/crusiblegolem/4.jpg http://eve.dguild.eu/images/crusiblegolem/5.jpg |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
9
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:14:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote:Needs to have something in the design to show this is a missile specialist, i.e Drake with the launch bays built into the skin,
As we don't have launchers we should have at least a clue in the skin. Some one tell me where in that design missiles launch from ?
Not enough imagination gone into the new design, Its a boring featureless flying brick with no clue for its function.
CCP have done some good with all the new stuff :) but its a wasted opportunity for the Raven redesign really. : (
Tal
They're considering giving us missile turrets which means the drake will have to be redone as well. Unlike the previous raven though this ship feels that much more dangerous now, very battelship worthy now with enough fire control to be able to launch and control vollies of missiles.
Yeah but I spend endless time looking at the Raven models new and old guessing where missiles launch from on it, its starting to annoy me now : )
I'll just repeat it one more time though they have been considering missile turrets for years nothing yet but soon (tm) : (. So this was a good chance to give the new model and skin some sort of clue towards missiles.
Tal |
Sirinda
Offworld Miners and Fabricators Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.17 18:16:00 -
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I like the new skin, the model's ****, though. |
Shawn Pierce
Wandering Incursion Exterminators
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Posted - 2011.11.17 18:27:00 -
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The new skin looks okay and all, but...
The uber-asymmetric Caldari models suck. Where on that model would you mount the missile turrets and have them follow a target in a realistic manner?
The Raven and other asymmetrical ships need to be redone in the style of the Scorpion. Not necessarily looking like their namesake, of course. They can have small projections here and there, but the main hull should be far more symmetrical. They're already experimenting with the Condor/Raptor/Crow in this manner. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
9
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Posted - 2011.11.17 18:28:00 -
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I know where they got the Raven nose now, check the nose on the Tengu using the Emergent Locus Analyser (spelt the correct way for any Americans out there : P )
Tal
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Shawn Pierce
Wandering Incursion Exterminators
7
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Posted - 2011.11.17 18:37:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:(spelt the correct way for any Americans out there : P ) Hey now...
We Americans don't speak/type English. We speak/type American. Evidently CCP does too. : P |
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.17 21:30:00 -
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The ship has been worked on considerably this week, check out the updated textures on Singularity tomorrow. CCP-áVertex -á|-á Art Quality Assurance-á | -áTeam Trilambda |
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Krell Kroenen
Miners In Possession
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Posted - 2011.11.17 21:55:00 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:The ship has been worked on considerably this week, check out the updated textures on Singularity tomorrow.
So has the model been worked on or just the textures?
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.17 22:51:00 -
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new model was made to accomidate new goals of the design.
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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
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Posted - 2011.11.17 23:31:00 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:The ship has been worked on considerably this week, check out the updated textures on Singularity tomorrow.
Thanks for the feedback, appreciated, one other thing though, could Marauders also have some differences to the model from the standard theme (i.e Raven model) rather than just a paint job ?
Cheers
Tal
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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.18 00:24:00 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:The ship has been worked on considerably this week, check out the updated textures on Singularity tomorrow.
I have checked it out and I noted something - since running TQ and SISI back to back here - why does the interior of the hangars on SISI look like they are washed out and full of smoke.... that is part of the issue I think.
Second the ship looks good, but I think the issue is that it has these wide areas that are lacking detail and the contrast of the grays on the hull are lacking - it still looks washed out.
Being such a large ship I think that it needs some detailing on the panels and more contrast - darker and lighter areas to make it look not like a model painted buy a 12 year old... it has that look of being painted out of the bottel so to speak.
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Arzi Taila
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.11.18 02:13:00 -
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The model and its design are great, the texture however is too low resolution and looks pretty blurry. Especially at the bottom front structure sticking out of the hull, it's just a mess down there. |
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.11.18 02:42:00 -
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I really like all of the new visual updates (this is for all ships, not just raven line)
However, my one gripe is that for a lot of the caldari ships, all of the icons look identical between all variants. Telling for example a rook and falcon in your hangar apart is quite difficult now unless you show info. I don't mind the really dark camos that caldari now has, but a least a little more brightness on the icons or something would be nice |
Loni Elahhez
Easter Bunnies Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.11.18 03:44:00 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:check out the updated textures on Singularity tomorrow.
guress textures only :) |
Adrodius
the golden goat
0
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Posted - 2011.11.18 05:29:00 -
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I'm happy with it :) |
Tivookz
The Forgotten Navy Gentlemen's Agreement
15
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Posted - 2011.11.18 09:14:00 -
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Why CCP decided to keep the old Raven model ( the ugliest model after Moa ) is beyond me.
I still think the Raven model should have gotten a complete remake.
Also, why is it acceptable in EVE to re-use stuff?
Just as an example the new game COD:MW3 had some buildings in it that existed in the predecessor MW: Black ops.
People raged about it etc.
However, everytime CCP decide to release a new "expansion" (yes, they refer to it as expansions) containing "new" ships it's not seldom an old ship with a new skin.
Black ops ships come to mind.
So does: Marauders, navy/tribal/fleet/etc editions, deep space transports, interceptors, exhumers and.. oh wait, almost every T2 ship out there.
It's bullshit. |
SMT008
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
228
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Posted - 2011.11.18 09:27:00 -
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I find the new Raven model "Just fine". I mean, it's still a Raven, it won't become OMAHGAD SO GORGEOUS, but it still looks fine now :)
(And the new textures are icing on the cake, it looks even better :D)
And that makes me think about training for Caldari ships after the winter expension. |
Edey
2
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Posted - 2011.11.18 10:52:00 -
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Wish Raven was symmetrical, just like Scorp. When Scorp was remade I just thought "WOW, That's uber cool" Want that feeling on a raven too. |
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