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Neio Vyesa
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Posted - 2006.05.26 14:59:00 -
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Hello, how do you as a director make it possible to use bp's in the corp hangar but not possible to remove/steal them? Is this possible at all or do I have to trust my manufacturers?
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Jimmy Tarmac
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Posted - 2006.05.26 15:46:00 -
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I'd like to know this myself, i'm playing about with it atm using an alt. I have locked down a bpo, but it seems I have to give factory manager role to my alt for him to use the bpo, and that means that the corp has to rent the factory and the minerals have to come from the corp hanger.
If there is a way of doing this so that all members can use the locked bpo's without everything having to go through corp can someone let me know.
I swear I read somewhere that you only need view access to use them and nothing else 
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GC13
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Posted - 2006.05.26 16:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Jimmy Tarmac
I swear I read somewhere that you only need view access to use them and nothing else
This is true. You only need view access to a hangar to use the minerals or blueprints in it, or to set it as the destination hangar.
As a CEO, you have the right to see everyone's current and past manufacturing jobs they're doing for the corp. If they manufacture something into a hangar they have take access for, remove their roles and make sure they don't have take access there anymore. Plain and simple.
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Sister Bliss
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.09.23 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: GC13
This is true. You only need view access to a hangar to use the minerals or blueprints in it, or to set it as the destination hangar.
I'm convinced this used to be the case but it isn't anymore!
It now seems to be that you need to have both query AND take access to the hangar where the minerals are located. Query access to the minerals hangar allows the hangar to show up in the input dropdown, and you need take access as well otherwise you get the error "You have insufficient rights to take the minerals from the specified location for this job."
Note that you only need to grant query access to the hangar where the blueprints are kept to allow corp members with factory roles to use them. So to minimise risk, you can split your minerals into one hangar and the blueprints into another.
However this still gives 2 major security holes; a) mentioned above you can output stuff to a hangar with take access and make off with it and more seriously b) the mechanics above force you to grant take access to your minerals hangar, so any corp builder will be able to scoop the entire mineral stock.
Granted if you could trust your corpmates 100% then this wouldnt be an issue. Does anyone know of a solution to this problem? Am surprised I can't find much on it in the forums.
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Mari Y'Tuk
Gallente
Quantum Industries
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.09.24 00:59:00 -
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you have to trust corp builders with corp minerals simple.
if you don;t want to trust them, don't
or simply using bpcs, tell members to place there own minerals into a hanger where they do have access from, and build away using corp bpos.
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Aldir Rundal
Gallente
The Order of Chivalry
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Posted - 2006.09.24 03:21:00 -
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I'm suprised no one has caught onto this yet.
LOCK THEM DOWN
This is something more than just a single director can do as it requires the use of the corporate share voting on each and every bpo, so that they can be locked down into a division hangar. Once Locked Down, they cannot be moved, they cannot be taken, and they cannot be destroyed. The ONLY things that can be done with them is Manufacturing, and Research (ME/PE/Copy), allowing them to be fully used, but not stolen.
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Xzavier
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.15 00:00:00 -
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Locking the BP's down is viable, but is there a way to allow corp members to build without giving them take access to the minerals?
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
STK Scientific
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.15 00:53:00 -
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As said above. Use the blueprint lockdown feature to prevent prints from being stolen. The CEO holding all corp shares can preform this action by himself. While the vote is open the print is auto lockeddown.
Originally by: Wrangler
Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
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Posted - 2006.10.15 06:44:00 -
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You need to give:
Mineral Corp Hangar [VIEW]
Blueprint Corp Hangar [VIEW]
Output Hangar [TAKE]
Rent Factory Slot [TICKED]
Factory Manager [TICKED]
Try that and see how you go. Only problem is that the resulting product is able to be taken from corp members
If that doesnt work, the problem would be that whilst only view access is needed on the bpo (as it is being put into a factory slot), take access may be needed on the minerals, as they are actually being removed from the corp hangar (through the factory). It is very annoying, but kinda makes sense so someone doesnt burn all your minerals accidentally producing 20,000 nanofibre I instead of 4 dominix.
I guess you could give corp members varied levels of take mineral access, and ie keep 100m worth of minerals in hangar ALPHA (members title and roles matching, only allow take to that hangar), then BETA, DELTA etc for the hangars with higher quantities of minerals, with roles/titles set to also allow the more advanced/trusted members to work with those hangars.
Not all that efficient, but it should basically allow you to do what you need to.
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Nvali
Ars Caelestis
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.18 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: Nvali on 18/10/2006 20:01:00
The mineral corp hangar permissions was changed in the last patch.
Patch notes: "To use corporation minerals for manufacturing, the manufacturer must have take access to the minerals." from http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/patchnotes.asp (Edit: build 5245, currently the most recent patch, has this change)
I believe that blueprints still work with just view permission, but you'll want to use lockdown votes anyway to reduce any chance of theft from people with high permissions or mistakenly set/"temporary" permissions.
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Korad Konstentyn
Shadowdancers Digital Press
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Posted - 2006.10.19 02:58:00 -
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pretty much, to do what you're describing - a BPC is pretty much your only option... issue your corpmembers BPC's or trust them with access. Yes, I realize this isnt an optimal solution, but it's the only one that fits the OP's requirements with the current game mechanics and doesnt require use of corporate mins
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