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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
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Posted - 2014.05.11 06:36:00 -
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Not too expensive on the "named" modules most of them less then 70 mill per piece, run cap stable with the LAR and got omni tank + loot\salvage on the go for max lazy mode. Utilize pulse + scorch for 90km optimal +- and got around 800 dps. with shorter range ammo got much higher dps in around 30 km range. All stats without implants. Also use bastion mode for EWAR immunity and stupidly high tank.... overall meant for running missions quick and loot only worthwhile stuff, salvaging wrecks while shooting stuff. Warp in > bastion > deploy MTU > shoot & salvage.
Quote:[Paladin, Pala/win] True Sansha Heat Sink True Sansha Heat Sink True Sansha Heat Sink True Sansha Large Armor Repairer True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Tracking Computer II [no script] Cap Recharger II
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Bastion Module I Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Mobile Tractor Unit x1
thoughts?
"What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3213
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Posted - 2014.05.11 07:47:00 -
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I'd want at least one prop mod and better rigs. Oh god. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
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Posted - 2014.05.11 07:48:00 -
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guess can replace the 3rd tracking computer with prop if needed.
which rigs you had in mind? can remove 1 rig and get cap stable for almost an hour so possible gank juice in that slot. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3214
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Posted - 2014.05.11 08:14:00 -
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I'd probably have this one.
[Paladin, Paladin] Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Core C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Large Micro Jump Drive 100MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Bastion Module I [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Large Energy Burst Aerator II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Oh god. |
Natalia Abre-Kai
5
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Posted - 2014.05.11 08:15:00 -
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Just so you know, you can't use those hammerheads |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
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Posted - 2014.05.11 08:24:00 -
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ooops 5 hobs + 5 hammers is default set I toss on each fit... but at any rate I pop anything larger then frig easily so mostly I use hobs.
at any rate regarding the new fit, does it cap stable with armor rep active? part of the idea in my fit was omni tank\cap stable for laziness reasons and save me the trouble of refitting depending on rat types.... "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3215
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Posted - 2014.05.11 09:29:00 -
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It's not cap stable, I think it gets about 5 minutes permarunning reps + guns, which should be plenty, really. Omni tank is good though. Oh god. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
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Posted - 2014.05.11 09:30:00 -
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hmmm how much extra dps did you get with this fit? (guns only) "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3215
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Posted - 2014.05.11 09:34:00 -
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871 DPS @ 98+20 with bastion. Oh god. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
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Posted - 2014.05.11 09:40:00 -
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test my fit on EFT with all V it get about same dps with scorch but cap stable with LAR and all running. maybe add prop instead of third tracking computer and 1 weapon mode so the fit will still have around 1 hour of cap... "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
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Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
92
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Posted - 2014.05.11 10:37:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:test my fit on EFT with all V it get about same dps with scorch but cap stable with LAR and all running. maybe add prop instead of third tracking computer and 1 weapon mode so the fit will still have around 1 hour of cap...
Bastioned tank does not need permarunning. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
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Posted - 2014.05.11 16:21:00 -
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I guess as much but let's say I'm very lazy and I want to agrro full room so all the pinatas will come closer ain't it better to have rep active full time? regarding bastion I never worked with one... does the defense increase that good that even without rep active it will hold full room aggro like boss with little pulse here and there? "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
UAB
Artificial Intelligence. The East India Co.
1
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Posted - 2014.05.11 16:50:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:I guess as much but let's say I'm very lazy and I want to agrro full room so all the pinatas will come closer ain't it better to have rep active full time? regarding bastion I never worked with one... does the defense increase that good that even without rep active it will hold full room aggro like boss with little pulse here and there?
Yes it will. My vargur tanks all angel null anoms with ease. And I use XLASB |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
431
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Posted - 2014.05.11 16:54:00 -
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Very interesting... I'll check out increased gank options. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Illiar D'Anaari
Lassandar
24
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:11:00 -
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Fit a cap booster if you're afraid you'll need to run the rep non stop for a while. |
Ineun
Tungitanium Industrial
0
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Posted - 2014.05.11 20:43:00 -
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[L4 Pally] Navy Heatsink x 3 T2 Heatsink x1 T2 Damage Control T2 EANM
Core C-type MWD (for the lower cap penalty) but t2 is fine too 3x Tracking computer T2
4x Tach T2 or 4x Pulse t2 (depending on mission) T2 Salvager 2x T2 Tractors
T2 ROF Rig T1 CCC (the only cap mod) you could even replace the ccc with a warpspeed rig or something
10x T2 hobs 5x Salvage drones |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1151
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Posted - 2014.05.11 23:43:00 -
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Ineun wrote:[L4 Pally] Navy Heatsink x 3 T2 Heatsink x1 T2 Damage Control T2 EANM T2 Large Repper
Core C-type MWD (for the lower cap penalty) but t2 is fine too 3x Tracking computer T2
4x Tach T2 or 4x Pulse t2 (depending on mission) T2 Salvager 2x T2 Tractors
T2 ROF Rig T1 CCC (the only cap mod) you could even replace the ccc with a warpspeed rig or something
10x T2 hobs 5x Salvage drones I'm assuming that this fit accidentally omits the bastion? Otherwise it only tanks ~300 DPS burst. |
Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
438
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:04:00 -
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[Paladin, Paladin fit]
Core C-Type Large Armor Repairer Reactive Armor Hardener Tracking Enhancer II Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink
100MN Microwarpdrive II Large Micro Jump Drive Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Small Tractor Beam II Salvager I Salvager I Bastion Module I
Large Energy Metastasis Adjuster II Large Energy Locus Coordinator II
Hornet II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Salvage Drone I x5
910 dps with Scorch at 96+14 (without drones) 766 bastion omni tank 7 mins of cap (MWD off) This is with all 5 skills and 4% hardwirings. I get closer to 825 DPS on live.
MWD can be dumped for an AB or whatever else you want if you don't like it, but it's got the fitting and cap so why not shave some minutes off of accel gate travel. Use MJD to instapop elite frigates at 100km. 1275 DPS with Conflagration at 32km if you're REALLY in a hurry to kill those BS :P - Mission Overhaul - Bridging the PVP / PVE Gap - -áIf the game stops teaching people to fear lowsec, maybe people will start going there? |
Ineun
Tungitanium Industrial
0
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:37:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote: I'm assuming that this fit accidentally omits the bastion? Otherwise it only tanks ~300 DPS burst.
This, editfixed. derp
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Desivo Delta Visseroff
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
225
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:52:00 -
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Here is a proper fit.
[Paladin, Fast Site Paladin]
Damage Control II Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpus C-Type Large Armor Repairer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Script / Switch as needed Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Script / Switch as needed Large Micro Jump Drive Cap Recharger II
Mega Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency L / Your Choice Mega Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency L / Your Choice Mega Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency L / Your Choice Mega Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency L / Your Choice Bastion Module I Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Federation Navy Hobgoblin x5 Republic Fleet Warrior x5 Salvage Drone I x5 I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses.............. |
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Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2615
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:11:00 -
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use a t2 damage rig or you're bad. Get a prop mod. Use tracking computers. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
DaRiKavus
Revenant Tactical
31
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Posted - 2014.05.19 09:24:00 -
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Everyone of these fits is over tanked.
Also......put a Mobile Depot in your hold. Deploy when you bastion and swap for Pulse/Beams for max dmg and relevant range, Cap recharge for webs if required, 4th HS for the 2nd EANM II and Cap recharge/web for MWD/MJD.
For example when running Dread Pirate Scarlett it is nice to be able to swap a cap recharge out for MWD for speedy gate hopping.
Additionally, whats with the faction reppers. You dont need them, a LAR II is more than adequate for Lvl 4 missions....any Lvl 4 mission. And salvage drones anyone.....anyone ?
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3283
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Posted - 2014.05.19 11:03:00 -
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DaRiKavus wrote:whats with the faction reppers. You dont need them You don't need 1000 DPS either. I use them because they're more efficient and cheap enough to be worthwhile. Oh god. |
DaRiKavus
Revenant Tactical
31
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Posted - 2014.05.19 16:34:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:DaRiKavus wrote:whats with the faction reppers. You dont need them You don't need 1000 DPS either. I use them because they're more efficient and cheap enough to be worthwhile.
Just another gank waiting to happen. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3285
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Posted - 2014.05.19 16:53:00 -
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Doesn't look profitable to me. Oh god. |
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