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Callie Nefarious
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Posted - 2006.05.27 12:59:00 -
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3 years and you still persist. Why dont you sopend a lill mroe time playing and move along
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.05.27 13:16:00 -
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Why do you care so much?
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2006.05.27 13:24:00 -
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I persist because I just really dont believe that ccp does anything about it. They dont post names or proof for perma bans. I don't see why not. It does hurt the game, and I just find it annyoing that they ask you to petition yet nothing gets done.
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.05.27 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Gore I persist because I just really dont believe that ccp does anything about it. They dont post names or proof for perma bans. I don't see why not. It does hurt the game, and I just find it annyoing that they ask you to petition yet nothing gets done.
Well the rules do state that all communication between ISD/CCP and the players is confidential and that they don't discuss moderation/warning/bans. You don't want them to go breaking their own rules do you? ______________________ 106 days and still a hijack virgin... Cherry popped! ~kieron Kieron... I have some bad news... |
phillip duncan
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Posted - 2006.05.27 13:38:00 -
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tag team the hauler ? when Ice is getting near due play pin ball with the hauler with a microwarp drive equiped ship, then split the profits.
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Moraka Kens
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Posted - 2006.05.27 13:43:00 -
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I agree I am sick of see'ing it also, CCP owns the game and can make pretty much anything the like illegal in game, basicly if they felt it was worth while putting the resources into getting rid of any group of players. They could. Evidently they do not in this case and annoying as it is, can only assume they know what they are doing.
I take turns at killing isk farmers every now and then in hi sec using every trick I can think of. What is interesting is they are now starting to defend their barges with battleship pilots. Interesting & fun . Mostly tanked scorps from what I've seen. I also recently saw 2 seperate isk farming groups fighting each other and popping their cans. The BS pilots are only a few month old so looks like a new thing they have been getting ready since the can flagging patch.
Chang Cheng [CHANG] is a fairly large chinese corp. I've seen ex-members of this corp farming roids and flying BS to protect the barges recently. While current members of CHANG corp are at the belt too, chatting to the farmers. Despite the CEO of CHANG's denial of any isk farming, I certainly doubt his word. Merely trying to hide it in my opinion. Too many have joined Eve, joined CHANG while training, then left to noob a corp to farm.
Some of my thoughts on it anyways.
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fuze
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Posted - 2006.05.28 00:56:00 -
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Stealing names from RL famous people is just as lame. You'd better start to train your Imagination skill. |
var'ulfur
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Posted - 2006.05.28 03:21:00 -
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me i got tierd of petitions, i just got very good at taking ore:). sit thier with my raven and take from thier cans drop it in mine and my corp mate haules it away. if they attack i just lay waste to them lol i have more skill point than thier whole farming op so the carnage is sweet;. they see me now and run so lets just do it ourselves.
talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
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Remedial
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Posted - 2006.05.28 03:46:00 -
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Train your navigation skills to the max.
Install velocity implants.
Get a Typhoon.
Load it with named overdrives and a faction MWD.
Get drunk.
Crash it into a macrominer at 4 km/s and send him flying away from the ice field over and over and over.
Post chatlogs.
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2006.05.28 04:10:00 -
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Yes, someone who doesn't understand English would start 7 or so accounts with such ridiculous names and enjoy the game mining ice 23/7 C'mmon. It's clear that those are either macroers or farmers and deserve to be banned. In the long run those things are killing the economy and the game, but from what it looks CCP aren't that interested in the long-run. A few more bucks now will do it. Time codes for ISK is another problem too. That's exactly the same as e-baying i.e. an opening for those who wish to be very uber very fast. How can an honestly playing guy compete with them? If you play by the rules, you lose something - you'll have to work to get it back. The time codes seller doesn't. He only spends his mom's cash and a few 100's millions of ISK are on his accnt again, rdy to be used to buy implants, ships, BPO's... whatever.
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voogru
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Posted - 2006.05.28 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Gore They must have a macro that takes from the can to the indy at inhumanly fast rates as the ice only appears for a milliseconds, before the hauler grabs it.
Those are the best, snatch it before they do, if you snatch it before they finish snatching it, and you transfer the ore to your own can in range of their hauler, they get flagged.
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Da Death
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Posted - 2006.05.28 04:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy There's no rule against farming.
Proving that someone's sharing accounts is not easy.
Proving they're using macros is not easy.
'Hey, you are a **** because you're from Germany. All Germans are ****s.' Sounds stupid? Yes. It is stupid. It is wrong in most cases too.
If you can prove they're selling Isk for cash, sharing accounts or using macros, send in petitions. (And please shut up if you can't. There's nothing we can do about it here on the forum.)
./signed
Absolution - Curse - T2 Laser Crystals - T2 Drones and more -> check Bio
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Da Death
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Posted - 2006.05.28 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: voogru
Originally by: Martin Gore They must have a macro that takes from the can to the indy at inhumanly fast rates as the ice only appears for a milliseconds, before the hauler grabs it.
Those are the best, snatch it before they do, if you snatch it before they finish snatching it, and you transfer the ore to your own can in range of their hauler, they get flagged.
good idea indeed :)
Absolution - Curse - T2 Laser Crystals - T2 Drones and more -> check Bio
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2006.05.28 04:26:00 -
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Free.
Ore.
There, i just contributed nothing to your thread |
tyrol
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Posted - 2006.05.28 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lil Belle
Originally by: Galk You know whats funny about this thread.....
Umm, head to the seller forum.... and look at all the people in there selling there earned isk to isk buyers..
Whats the difference huh...... so a guy runs missions... mines roids... whatever... to sell his isk to a isk buyer.
Whats been said many many times in these threads..... they arn't actualy using a macro.... just farming isk to sell.
On that premise... that makes abosolute thousands of people just as guilty:/
Yeah, read up to what i said, i assume you mean people buying timecards for money to sell for isk. Yes CCP allow it because it gets them a few extra subs, they dont care that they are allowing people to buy isk with real money as long as they profit from it, eventually it will probably hurt their game, maybe even be the downfall, but for now all they care about is the money.
i don.t agree with you here, in fact i believe its the opposite. For every person who buys a time code with isk, there is someone paying ccp for that code. Its allowing people who are short on rl funds to stay in the game. People who would have quit now use isk to pay for their game, meaning more time codes are bought from ccp. Also now all these people who used to buy from ebay can buy isk legally without the risk of a ban. If you ask me, this can only improve the game, not lead to its downfall and may even start putting isk farmers out of business
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Ender Wiggens
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Posted - 2006.05.28 08:43:00 -
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Edited by: Ender Wiggens on 28/05/2006 08:44:01 Heres an idea, if youve been playing for 3 years why are you hanging around jita ice mining anyway? Come out to 0.0 and then if you see them you can just shoot some torps at them. Im sick of people complaining about noobs and macroers in 1.0 space, its 1.0 space thats what it was set up for.
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Eepzy Nimbles
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Posted - 2006.05.28 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Moghydin It's clear that those are either macroers or farmers and deserve to be banned.
Let me say this one more time: farming is not illegal. You can farm all you want and it will not be against the EULA. Account sharing is illegal, but I don't think having someone else click a couple of buttons on your client is illegal. CCP cannot ban people unless they break the EULA, so farmers won't get banned so easily.
Quote: In the long run those things are killing the economy and the game.
Are they really? So far, the only problems I have seen these farmers cause is the endless threads on the forums complaining about how they are ruining the game.
Quote: Time codes for ISK is nother problem too. That's exactly the same as e-baying i.e. an opening for those who wish to be very uber very fast.
From what I gather, this wasn't what CCP intended it to be. They apparently failed to see this would happen. I agree that it needs changing, but I can also understand that CCP is reluctant to do so. This, however, is an entirely different topic.
Quote: How can an honestly playing guy compete with them?
ISK isn't everything in EVE nor is this game about who has the most isk.
Quote: If you play by the rules, you lose something - you'll have to work to get it back.
Unless you happen to have been randomly given decent tech 2 BPO.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2006.05.28 09:04:00 -
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dealing with ice miners is very easy
get a combat ship, like a caracal or something
go mwd to their cans, remove ice, place in your own can (jet 1 missile or something)
keep stealing ice until they either: a) try to take it back (bewm!) b) bring someone to kill you while you're flagged (bewm!) c) give up and dock (victory!)
make sure to bring a hauler to take all their precious ice when you're done too.
don't hate macroing ice miners theyre some of the most fun people to grief in the game dude.
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Czar Vilinous
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Posted - 2006.05.29 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Remedial Train your navigation skills to the max.
Install velocity implants.
Get a Typhoon.
Load it with named overdrives and a faction MWD.
Get drunk.
Crash it into a macrominer at 4 km/s and send him flying away from the ice field over and over and over.
Post chatlogs.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
done and done.
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Zaroastr
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Posted - 2006.05.29 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Remedial Train your navigation skills to the max.
Install velocity implants.
Get a Typhoon.
Load it with named overdrives and a faction MWD.
Get drunk.
Crash it into a macrominer at 4 km/s and send him flying away from the ice field over and over and over.
Post chatlogs.
That is a very good idea, but why a Typhoon?
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Rosedale
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Posted - 2006.05.29 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Zaroastr That is a very good idea, but why a Typhoon?
Because its one of the fastest battleships in game. A Machariel would work better, but it isn't cheap.
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Tonkin
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Posted - 2006.05.29 20:16:00 -
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there paying customers so ccp is happy, there no really way to catch them out, unless they modify the client data in the eve folder, on which they dont. they dont cause harm becasue everyone knows things get cheaper and in low sec systems you wont find them there, miners can still make money on mide to low end minerals
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Daimos Bellurdan
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Posted - 2006.05.29 20:46:00 -
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There is no problem with the macro miners. The problem lies with the isk buyers. If noone would buy isk with RL money there would be no macro miners.
So go and tell the people in YOUR corp to stop buying isk for money and stop crying about the macroers. They are not the root of the problem.
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Mirkel
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Posted - 2006.05.29 21:24:00 -
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maybe i should remind you about how they took the macro miners the last time?
watching and waiting, observing where the isk is going and 1 day you take the whole cartel in 1 big swing :P
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2006.05.29 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Mirkel maybe i should remind you about how they took the macro miners the last time?
watching and waiting, observing where the isk is going and 1 day you take the whole cartel in 1 big swing :P
Exactly.. I cant imagine why ppl cant understand this.. if CCP just ban them in teh first place, without proper investigation, this macrosers will be back in a few day again...
If the investigation can go through properly, they may have a good chance to stop them once and for all... - POST WITH YOUR MAIN!
New sig coming soon...
This post is my personal opinion. It does not represent the standpoint of the DICE Corporation. |
Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2006.05.29 23:20:00 -
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My question is will the chinese government lean on CCP once the chinese server is up to rat out all these sweatshops or are they a valuable asset to the chinese economy?
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Kindakrof
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Posted - 2006.05.29 23:36:00 -
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I didn't read any of the replies,
But try searching for a character named : Bargebot --- --- ---
my sig is pr0 Thanks for the lemon |
Y'laaris Brood
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Posted - 2006.05.30 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kot'Na'Arr Is there a cheap way to kill those suckers?
Don't know, maybe a suicide run with a frigate and smart bomb??
A few people in destroyers with smartbombs wouldn't cost much and oughta work...
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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2006.05.30 05:44:00 -
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figure it out yourself...
Not sure how many marcominers there are or isk farmers... but for sheets-n-giggles lets say there are 500 accounts that utilize this lame tactic.
To ban them all, you are then depriving CCP of about $4500 a month...add to that the bans of anyone who has bought isk or ebayed anything ever... and thats maybe another $4500... add to that the loss if CCP banned sale of timecards, and now I'm sure you're getting a bigger picture.
Sad to say... if CCP was active on this and took the necessary procedures to stop and/or minimize this, they'd stand to lose a lot. Aside from petitioning every bargebot5 you see, there's no other way. It really eeeks me that WE have to monitor these macrolosers and do CCP's job. How many GMs are on are one time? Is it that hard to put a few at Jita? I dont think so, but they lead you to belive it is.
Of course, I know nothing.
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Morrigan Starlover
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Posted - 2006.05.30 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Gore Tachy please dude come on, 7-10 accounts all huddled together, 23hrs a day 7 days a week for 7 months....hmmm what do you think?????
Even the most clinically ill obsessive compulsive would have to sleep for at least 4 hrs a day before he went mad from having to min ice, and lets be clear on this you might as well watch paint dry.
The true problem lies in you coveting their isk. Solve that problem and you will no longer care.
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