EVE Search - Ok... I'm SICK of still seeing these people in game

Check My IP Information

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Ok... I'm SICK of still seeing these people in game

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Paari Cuman	Posted - 2006.05.30 06:33:00 - [61] Edited by: Paari Cuman on 30/05/2006 06:37:09 Edited by: Paari Cuman on 30/05/2006 06:34:06 I have reported a few macrominers. CCP has sometimes actually removed them in front of me. (In some cases, come with a Jovian frigate and blow it up.) I was credited in helping remove 52 accounts once by tattle-telling on a group of 4 miners. However, when they say they will "look into it" I understand that sometimes it is hard to prove and spending ANY time on it is just a waste to CCP. Imagine how much less time they would spend answering the hundreds and hundreds of petitions they already have? I also DON'T believe CCP is leaving this matter just to gain income. If it became out of control, the games' economy would just collaspe and then they'd lose hundreds more in income and accounts due to ****ed off players. Just enjoy the free ice. Pop the miners in low sec (some macros are really stupid.) Petiton the ones you can't. I hate macros too but, its just a problem that won't go away.
LUGAL MOP'N'GLO	Posted - 2006.05.30 06:40:00 - [62] Edited by: LUGAL MOP''N''GLO on 30/05/2006 06:43:32 Originally by: Jim Raynor dealing with ice miners is very easy get a combat ship, like a caracal or something go mwd to their cans, remove ice, place in your own can (jet 1 missile or something) keep stealing ice until they either: a) try to take it back (bewm!) b) bring someone to kill you while you're flagged (bewm!) c) give up and dock (victory!) make sure to bring a hauler to take all their precious ice when you're done too. don't hate macroing ice miners theyre some of the most fun people to grief in the game dude. Macro mining in general is a problem. Hopefully the whole discovery aspect of eve that was discussed in the last dev blog will help it out. People say it doesn't hurt the economy are ignorant. If you have a crap load of anything being sold on the market prices will drop. POS owners most likely buy their ice from Macros, Manufacturers most likely buy their ore from Macros. Macros have made mining a poor mans job. The price of ice has been driven down quite a bit in the last year or so. Someone posted the exact #'s a while ago and it was pretty unbelievable. I have no sig, because I can't compress my picture down that far. It looks like crapola.
tiller	Posted - 2006.05.30 06:40:00 - [63] Edited by: tiller on 30/05/2006 06:43:00 Best I ever seen is 7 geddons mining in egghelende all bunched up within about 2k of each other. It was so dumb we thought it was a trap for a while until we had counted up the mining lasers. 5 blew up before they started to warp.... was a lmfao moment. The were mining veld in probably the most pirate infested 0.4 system in eve. Also seen a convoy of 8 Apocs all with random names and less than a month old. 3 went boom in the process of them moving one jump... you'd finish one apoc off only to get another warping in. Only running out of cap saved the rest. Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Kuolematon	Posted - 2006.05.30 08:05:00 - [64] Originally by: Malken i thought everyone knew by now that CCP doesnt care about macrominers. why do you think there are so many still here? why do you think that the same ones are still here after so long time? because CCP doesnt care. QFT -- move accounts, more income. Your stupid if you belive that CCP will remove paying customers just because they hurt you virtually. Unnerf Amarr! Proud member of Caldari Provisions
Drazys	Posted - 2006.05.30 08:26:00 - [65] Indeed, with Eve's "player economy" and risk-and-reward approach regarding to earning ISK in-game, I guess that it is natural part of player economy that "those with cash in RL can have cash in game too" and since there is "risk" involved with such activity as well (risk of getting credit card information stolen), all is well I guess. Or alternatively this current situation is making a mockery of those two above-mentioned concepts. - Drazzy
Lucre	Posted - 2006.05.30 09:48:00 - [66] Originally by: Kyreema That is why I gave up trying to make a living from ice-mining... its pointless. Surely better to give it up now because of the macroing isk-farmers than to give it up later because you've gourged your eyeballs out from the numbing boredom of mining ice! If they're mining ice, it means I don't have to do it! I can live with that...
elFarto	Posted - 2006.05.30 11:59:00 - [67] Originally by: voogru Originally by: Martin Gore They must have a macro that takes from the can to the indy at inhumanly fast rates as the ice only appears for a milliseconds, before the hauler grabs it. Those are the best, snatch it before they do, if you snatch it before they finish snatching it, and you transfer the ore to your own can in range of their hauler, they get flagged. That happened to me, for a moment I couldn't work out why he started flashing and I didn't have the ice. Suffice to say he didn't leave in the ship he arrived in. Regards elFarto npc.elfarto.com > Ingame NPC database Simon: River! River? Are you okay? River: I swallowed a bug.
Sir Juri	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:13:00 - [68] Edited by: Sir Juri on 30/05/2006 12:15:50 farming yes, macros prolly not. So should we ban americans for instance with no job mining 4 accounts 24/7 cause they got no life? even if they are farmers, unless one can proove they sell and stuff one cant ban 'em. And why they dont answer in local? perhaps afk, perhaps doesnt speak english, perhaps they allready know what you are going to say even!??? Its almost impossible to proove they are dooing wrong by themselves. And we cant ban ppl for having stupid general names either. Like in CS for instant, who doesnt have sniper in their name? Heck perhaps its an alliance buying accounts together naming them same for logistics purpuses. Who knows, but farming itself aint against EULA I believe, and beeing AFK aint either, not to mention ignorring you or not speaking english. For myself, I dont really give a rats ass tbh. Sorry aslong as I can play the game im fine. But yeah perhaps making it harder to make ISK in highsec mining/ratting etc is a good idea. Perhaps making it more lawless is good to. PS: unless you can proove macroing it just sounds retarded callin em macro miners, try farmers instead. Unless you can proove macroing. damn need to make a new sig...
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:23:00 - [69] Originally by: Tachy Proving that someone's sharing accounts is not easy. Actually it is. If they're on for 23 hours a day for an entire week, they just broke the world record for number of hours awake without sleeping unless they're sharing accounts [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Sir Juri	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:25:00 - [70] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Tachy Proving that someone's sharing accounts is not easy. Actually it is. If they're on for 23 hours a day for an entire week, they just broke the world record for number of hours awake without sleeping unless they're sharing accounts speed damn need to make a new sig...

Myst Override	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:35:00 - [71] Macro Ice Famers = Cheap Ice Product 4 me.
Soulita	Posted - 2006.05.30 12:48:00 - [72] Sad to see the ignorance of some people. There is a reason for macros not being allowed, just as there is a reason for hacking the client/server not being allowed etc. Nuff said.
Kurren	Posted - 2006.05.30 15:01:00 - [73] Originally by: JenKrist ccp would loose alot of money not only employing someone to find them, then ban them, but from their subscription. Think of how the economy would be affected should they go? Its like people that say all immigrants should go from england! crazy talk! Umm... 'Cept for the Ice miners... most just use the free trial subscriptions. CCP wouldn't lose much money at all. Plus, the China server will probably help this a lot. Bringing immigrants into the conversation makes it political. That's a NO-NO!! But, on that, at least I know my money would benefit somebody doing things LEGALLY in terms of the EULA. Originally by: Kunming - We know, they know, CCP knows - Just steal their ore - Pop their ships - Loot their mods - Enjoy the cash That is my current solution. I make around 2 mill a day (because I haven't found the Ice miners) off of these guys. They've begun avoiding me. I'm proud. I still find them and make my money off of their work. Vigilanty(sp?) justice... it works out fine for me. --- --- --- --- SobaKai.com
Imperial Coercion	Posted - 2006.05.30 15:08:00 - [74] Originally by: Kyreema But as long as they pay their $$$$ subs to CCP each month, CCP will turn a blind eye. Most likely they dont since they can easily buy timecodes
Karma	Posted - 2006.05.30 15:24:00 - [75] Originally by: Ephemeron I have a simple solution to macro mining: Remove all asteroids from secure space. not quite... more and more we're starting to see macro-pilots running missions by macro... _________________ "No Worries" Karma, fool on the hull.
Mangold	Posted - 2006.05.30 15:54:00 - [76] Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 30/05/2006 06:43:00 Best I ever seen is 7 geddons mining in egghelende all bunched up within about 2k of each other. It was so dumb we thought it was a trap for a while until we had counted up the mining lasers. 5 blew up before they started to warp.... was a lmfao moment. The were mining veld in probably the most pirate infested 0.4 system in eve. Also seen a convoy of 8 Apocs all with random names and less than a month old. 3 went boom in the process of them moving one jump... you'd finish one apoc off only to get another warping in. Only running out of cap saved the rest. Pure comedy.
fairimear	Posted - 2006.05.30 16:13:00 - [77] sad fact is the eve econimy is now almost entirely re;liant on these people, theres a group of 2-10 in every 1.0 and 0.9 and the pure fact is there is so many if ccp did put any effort into destroying them the universe would end and the sky would fall.
Kurren	Posted - 2006.05.30 17:32:00 - [78] Originally by: fairimear sad fact is the eve econimy is now almost entirely re;liant on these people, theres a group of 2-10 in every 1.0 and 0.9 and the pure fact is there is so many if ccp did put any effort into destroying them the universe would end and the sky would fall. OR... the economy would simply be handed over to those that need to turn a profit due to their chosen career path instead of being in the hands of those cheating CCP out of money and us out of game play. Prices might go up?! NOOOOO!!!1!!s! If you endorse cheating, you're no better than the cheater. If you rely on Macros because they sell for cheap, it's probably only because you're greedy. Greedy isn't a bad thing, but Macro miners ruin the game. So prices go up... big deal. At least the guy selling the goods now did things the honest way. Though, I'm sure those that "need" macro prices don't give a rat's ass about that... they're the reason people like IGE... or IGN... or who the-hell ever... stay in business. --- --- --- --- SobaKai.com
Torros Honsaye	Posted - 2006.07.06 09:34:00 - [79] First of all running macros is bad and anyone who uses them should be banned when caught. Steal the ore out from under them, to me is ok, I've never done it because I am too new and cant drive anything big enough to really hurt them in. The current CCP plan to just take Ice out of .5 and above to me does nothing to solve anything to deal with the Macro Miners. I feel CCP is taking the easy way out of this and it is not really solving anything but hurting newer players, or ones who are training mining skills are going to be wasted now. Everyone knows who they are, they log in right after a reboot, and mine endlessly until the next restart, then repeat. CCP knows what time zones these accounts are in, I do not know of any human that has been able to play 23/7, I love Eve as much as the rest and would love to play every day that many hours, but come on CCP, thats the first tell tale sign, how many humans can stay up that long for that many days in a row. I say ban the macro miners and leave the game alone for the guys who have trained months to mine ice or regular ore. Taking the ice out except in only low secure areas is only going to make the Ice macro miners switch to mining regular ore in empire, what is CCP going to do then, move all ore to low secure areas? I mean really, does it stop the macro user? NO, I say CCP go after the macro user. First, CCP's EULA should reflect that if making game actions and repeatedly not replying to a GM response can lead to suspension or permenant banning. When a player sees a suspect macro user, they report it. CCP should have the ablity to pop into that sector to monitor the suspected player. If the suspect ship is performing game actions, like firing up lasers, ejecting cans, moving ore to and from a can, the act of moving the ship to and from a station, then some one should be at the controls, these are actions the would normaly be done by a player at the controls. A GM should pop up a convo box to talk to the suspect, a box that requires a user action to click it, (maybe that would screw up the macro). If the user does not reply but continues to make game movements, then CCP should boot them from the game for performing game actions and not responding within a certain period of time. They can send an email to the account owner and ingame character warning them that they could be banned performing ingame actions and not responding to GM request. I personaly do not care if a player has 20 accounts as long as he is at the controls of everyone of them and can respond when a GM talks to him on each of them. To me this is a better way of actualy getting rid of the macro users instead of CCP changing the game as a work around which hurts legit players, but of course, if we added up all the Macro user accounts currently in game, it would probaly hurt CCP's pocket book and they would not go this route, WOW banned tons of accounts that added up to major amounts of actual cash that they lost, but they went after the actual user account that were destroying the WOW ingame economies, CCP this is what you should do.
Andreask14	Posted - 2006.07.06 09:53:00 - [80] There are no MacroMiners in Jita, they all got banned and will never return. ________________________________________________ Just a quick reminder that "Local" and "Instas" will always be what they are.

Gabriel Karade	Posted - 2006.07.06 09:57:00 - [81] CCP banned close to 1000 accounts last month, so moaning about them doing 'nothing' is redundant.. ---------- - Office Linebacker -
Imperial Coercion	Posted - 2006.07.06 10:05:00 - [82] Originally by: Kuolematon Originally by: Malken i thought everyone knew by now that CCP doesnt care about macrominers. why do you think there are so many still here? why do you think that the same ones are still here after so long time? because CCP doesnt care. QFT -- move accounts, more income. Your stupid if you belive that CCP will remove paying customers just because they hurt you virtually. You can buy gametime cards for isk. Hence you are so wrong you can get.
SonOTassadar	Posted - 2006.07.06 10:38:00 - [83] I know of no company that runs a MMO that properly monitors for activities against the EULA. The fact of the matter is it's more profitable for CCP to ban these accounts than it is to leave them there going about their business. Insane? Hear me out. Obviously, there are players who are going to blow the problem out of proportion. I don't know how much they are affecting the economy, but the fact is they are, and that's a problem, and it drives players away, no doubt. So you've got legitimate customers who are leaving. Next, you have the macro accounts. You can see by how many of them there are that the perseverence in them is insatiable. Remove 1, and you see 10 more the next day. Since CCP doesn't have to deal with distribution costs, every copy is pure, unadulterated profit. So, in reality, if CCP devoted more time to banning macroers, they would essentially see $20 a week, $20 a week, $20 a week, and so on and so forth, depending on how quickly they could identify and ban these accounts. How much more profit is that compared to $20 + $15 each additional month? Blizzard has seen the impact on their revenues because of this, and I saw a thread about their admittance to it (this was a long time ago, mind you, so the thread is assuredly long gone). They have a system to identify botters, but they do not have a system setup to prevent botters before they can start. Why? So these botters set up new accounts to ban, repeat, ad nauseum. Increased profits for Blizzard. 'tis quite a vicious cycle, but the company comes out the winner, and that's what we want for CCP. ___________________________
rixtim	Posted - 2006.07.06 11:35:00 - [84] if you look in the sticky about the ice dissapearing ou of high trafic systems (high trafic does not equal high sec) there is a post from ouver quoteing that they have banned 1000 macro miner accounts earlier this year (work that out compared to wow routeing out macros and bannaing them thats a higher percentage of the userbase) so in short they are doing something about some of them they just dont shout it out from the rooftops
mamolian	Posted - 2006.07.06 11:52:00 - [85] With ice fields moving out of safe sec, your macrominers mining ice wont have it so easy anymore. -------------------------------
Mistress LadyAir	Posted - 2006.07.06 12:07:00 - [86] I petitioned Graade, Minsgrade, DFSDASD, and a couple other characters of theirs that macro mine in Aydoteaux a couple days ago. Within 30 minutes of a GM answering my petition they disappeared from the ice belts leaving a couple cans of ice. I thought for sure that the GM must have acted quickly on my petition, but unfortunately they were all back on mining the next day so I guess not.
Sensor Error	Posted - 2006.07.06 12:11:00 - [87] Necromancy is bad, mmm'kay? RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!! ------------------------------------------ Dev Responses to common questions
Spy4Hire	Posted - 2006.07.06 12:13:00 - [88] Originally by: Tachy Maybe they're no macro miners at all and ccp can't do a thing about it? You have to be blind, dumb, or are just being sarcastic. 80% of Empire space is macro'd, the rest are just there to get stuff to go gank each other in 0.0 (where there is ALSO macro mining going on, and macro-ratting, et al). Eve's subscription base doubled with the releases of Cold War and to RMR, and likely a good 85% of those new subs were macros... and for every one you get banned, two more pop out of traning centers fully skilled up and ready to resume where the banned one left off without pause at all. Active usercount has trippled over the last year, much of that being macros and spy alts. CCP is powerless. Just take a look at slaveBay and filter out the ISK sales. You'll see ships for sale, and chars, and tons of macro programs for sale (along with cheat/exploit primers).
Marvel Master	Posted - 2006.07.06 12:35:00 - [89] Hi, the beginners of eve could make with this way easy money. Skill a hauler char and get alle the ice from the contis. :-) You are flagged then, but the macro programs cannot attack you. g Marvel
Corunna ElMan	Posted - 2006.07.06 12:41:00 - [90] Originally by: mamolian With ice fields moving out of safe sec, your macrominers mining ice wont have it so easy anymore. Yeah, that's a great solution... Let's not take care of the macro users, let's just remove all the resources they mine! I'm glad these people aren't real-life lawmakers - imagine what kind of world we'd live in!



Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.