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Sturmwolke
568
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Posted - 2014.05.18 03:21:00 -
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A wee bit more PG to the Viator (and possibly others?) would be nice. It's currently impossible to fit an MWD and MSE without implants or other shenanigans. You want them to be more defensive yes?
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
614
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Posted - 2014.05.18 03:26:00 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:The velocity bonus doesn't help much, and on all at1 industrials it was awitched to agility which is mountains better on this kind of ship. Yes, an agility bonus would be more powerful. That doesn't mean it's the best bonus to give the ship. And why exactly would that be, considering their role is the expedient and covert delivery of cargo? Would it not make far more sense to have a bonus to align time which applies directly to the foundation of its role, rather than something awkwardly specific like speed under covops cloak? The current speed bonuses are only useful if you're traveling through null or wh and need to get out of a bubble. because they already aling somewhere between cruiser and frig with max cargo and with align times that low you spend most of your time in warp. and with these new warp speeds the only thing going faster than you is an interceptor or the new dramiel. |
Khan'matar
HEK CARTEL
0
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Posted - 2014.05.18 03:43:00 -
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Yes!
Finally a blockade runner that can make a run for it and live! My Prowler will be 'Born to be Wild' with the T2 warp speed rigs.
Two pints on the House.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11574
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Posted - 2014.05.18 03:56:00 -
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Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Gypsio III wrote:Please remove the immunity to cargo scanning. This will make it much safer to autopilot around in highsec in an empty BR, while not affecting anyone who is flying manually with valuable cargo, because of the cloak.
Currently, the scan immunity bonus essentially means that you can't AP around in an empty BR, you have to fly it manually everywhere. This can be a real pain. You can't cloak at the Jita undock, where cargo gets scanned the most.
Cant scan it if it instantly warps to an undock safe. Flown correctly there is no chance to even lock a blocade runner let alone scan it. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11574
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Posted - 2014.05.18 03:58:00 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:The velocity bonus doesn't help much, and on all at1 industrials it was awitched to agility which is mountains better on this kind of ship. Yes, an agility bonus would be more powerful. That doesn't mean it's the best bonus to give the ship. And why exactly would that be, considering their role is the expedient and covert delivery of cargo? Would it not make far more sense to have a bonus to align time which applies directly to the foundation of its role, rather than something awkwardly specific like speed under covops cloak? The current speed bonuses are only useful if you're traveling through null or wh and need to get out of a bubble.
They already align like frigates. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Starfall Achura
Angels of Achura
6
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Posted - 2014.05.18 04:38:00 -
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Swiftstrike1 wrote:So there's now a legitimate reason to train Transport ships beyond level 1?? Mind blown!
I trained it to 5 on one of my alts...knowing that Fozzie would eventually give them some love. Thanks Fozzie |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
615
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Posted - 2014.05.18 04:41:00 -
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Starfall Achura wrote:Swiftstrike1 wrote:So there's now a legitimate reason to train Transport ships beyond level 1?? Mind blown! I trained it to 5 on one of my alts...knowing that Fozzie would eventually give them some love. Thanks Fozzie any other skills that will become useful at 5? |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
690
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Posted - 2014.05.18 05:09:00 -
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slower than a jump freighter (slightly, lol covops) more risky than a jump freighter less cargo than a jump freighter |
Shade Millith
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
121
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Posted - 2014.05.18 05:38:00 -
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I'm actually going to ask for a buff, in the form of removing the 'Cannot be Scanned' thing.
There's no point to having it, and is actually a detriment to the ship. if you're flying it, you're cloaked and warped before anyone would be able to scan you anyway, and flying AFK while empty you're at risk of being popped on the chance that you might have something, due to it's low HP and unscanability.
I've had it happen twice. First time I died, and the second time I survived.
Unless this effects faction police scanning for drugs and contraband, but I'm under the impression it doesn't. |
Foxstar Damaskeenus
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
137
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Posted - 2014.05.18 06:40:00 -
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TY Fozzie |
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Aluka 7th
151
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Posted - 2014.05.18 07:04:00 -
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Excellent changes. Bravo! |
Herpp Derpp
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2014.05.18 07:04:00 -
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Neat! |
Belinda HwaFang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
10
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Posted - 2014.05.18 07:52:00 -
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Gypsio III wrote:Please remove the immunity to cargo scanning. This will make it much safer to autopilot around in highsec in an empty BR, while not affecting anyone who is flying manually with valuable cargo, because of the cloak.
Currently, the scan immunity bonus essentially means that you can't AP around in an empty BR, you have to fly it manually everywhere. This can be a real pain.
That's the whole point of the ship. You are using the wrong ship for AFK hauling. Try the (new improved) DST, or an Orca, or a new nerfed freighter, or a T1 indy. |
Jezza McWaffle
Blackstar Privateers Disavowed.
113
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Posted - 2014.05.18 07:54:00 -
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Swapping around the bonus that currently players cant scan you to NPC's can't scan you would be a great help. Drugs are already hard enough to come by without using a specific seller already. C6 Wormhole blog http://holelotofwaffle.wordpress.com/ |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
690
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Posted - 2014.05.18 07:55:00 -
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Belinda HwaFang wrote:Gypsio III wrote:Please remove the immunity to cargo scanning. This will make it much safer to autopilot around in highsec in an empty BR, while not affecting anyone who is flying manually with valuable cargo, because of the cloak.
Currently, the scan immunity bonus essentially means that you can't AP around in an empty BR, you have to fly it manually everywhere. This can be a real pain. That's the whole point of the ship. You are using the wrong ship for AFK hauling. Try the (new improved) DST, or an Orca, or a new nerfed freighter, or a T1 indy.
the scan immunity is pointless though. if you're ever even lockable in a BR while carrying stuff, you're terrible. |
Ix Method
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
139
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Posted - 2014.05.18 08:23:00 -
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No ******* around, just did things right. Love you. Travelling at the speed of love. |
Belinda HwaFang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
10
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Posted - 2014.05.18 08:47:00 -
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TrouserDeagle wrote: the scan immunity is pointless though. if you're ever even lockable in a BR while carrying stuff, you're terrible.
Pointless or not, personally I have no need to be autopiloting BR's around, so I don't see why it should be changed. Cargo scan immunity is one of the unique aspects of the ship. even if the chance of being locked is very small without a decloak.
My BR has been locked before, once by a tower when I was a bit slow anchoring a siphon for the first time, and once when i was decloaked running a dictor camp, though I was able to recloak after getting into warp.
I understand why some of you want this change (yes I've seen the Shadow Cartel BR ganks) , but personally I would still prefer it to be left as is. I don't see why this niche ship should ever be considered a good AFK hauler for any value of cargo due to its ridiculous warp speed.
I believe each ship should have its place and that there should be diversity in ships.
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TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
690
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Posted - 2014.05.18 08:55:00 -
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Belinda HwaFang wrote:TrouserDeagle wrote: the scan immunity is pointless though. if you're ever even lockable in a BR while carrying stuff, you're terrible.
Pointless or not, personally I have no need to be autopiloting BR's around, so I don't see why it should be changed. Cargo scan immunity is one of the unique aspects of the ship. even if the chance of being locked is very small without a decloak. My BR has been locked before, once by a tower when I was a bit slow anchoring a siphon for the first time, and once when i was decloaked running a dictor camp, though I was able to recloak after getting into warp. I understand why some of you want this change (yes I've seen the Shadow Cartel BR ganks) , but personally I would still prefer it to be left as is. I don't see why this niche ship should ever be considered a good AFK hauler for any value of cargo due to its ridiculous warp speed. I believe each ship should have its place and that there should be diversity in ships.
a pos or dictor camp isn't going to suicide gank you in highsec with 2 destroyers when you're empty |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9918
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Posted - 2014.05.18 08:55:00 -
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These changes look pretty good except you should move the cargo scan immunity from BR where it's completely useless to DST where, you know, they may actually get locked and scanned since they're not covert ops ships. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
1225
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Posted - 2014.05.18 09:25:00 -
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Belinda HwaFang wrote:Gypsio III wrote:Please remove the immunity to cargo scanning. This will make it much safer to autopilot around in highsec in an empty BR, while not affecting anyone who is flying manually with valuable cargo, because of the cloak.
Currently, the scan immunity bonus essentially means that you can't AP around in an empty BR, you have to fly it manually everywhere. This can be a real pain. That's the whole point of the ship. You are using the wrong ship for AFK hauling. Try the (new improved) DST, or an Orca, or a new nerfed freighter, or a T1 indy.
I'm not AFK hauling, that's the entire point! I just want to be able move an empty BR back to base without having to manually fly it. Every hauler can safely AP around highsec when empty - with the exception of the blockade runners. The cargo scan immunity removed this ability. It's mental! |
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Anathema Device
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.05.18 09:38:00 -
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Gypsio III wrote:Belinda HwaFang wrote:Gypsio III wrote:Please remove the immunity to cargo scanning. This will make it much safer to autopilot around in highsec in an empty BR, while not affecting anyone who is flying manually with valuable cargo, because of the cloak.
Currently, the scan immunity bonus essentially means that you can't AP around in an empty BR, you have to fly it manually everywhere. This can be a real pain. That's the whole point of the ship. You are using the wrong ship for AFK hauling. Try the (new improved) DST, or an Orca, or a new nerfed freighter, or a T1 indy. I'm not AFK hauling, that's the entire point! I just want to be able move an empty BR back to base without having to manually fly it. Every hauler can safely AP around highsec when empty - with the exception of the blockade runners. The cargo scan immunity removed this ability. It's mental! It doesn't matter what Transport Ship you are using there is still a chance of being ganked for the LOLs. E.g. my empty Occator in HiSec wasn't safe from a ganking attempt. The Blockade Runners have something unique and I can't accept that they should lose this for HiSec autopiloting safety. |
Arla Sarain
7
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Posted - 2014.05.18 09:41:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:The velocity bonus doesn't help much, and on all at1 industrials it was awitched to agility which is mountains better on this kind of ship. Yes, an agility bonus would be more powerful. That doesn't mean it's the best bonus to give the ship. Considering that the deceleration has been changed to -2AU/s/s due to inties insta-warping gate-to-gate and the mass of these ships, would these ships even spend more than 2 seconds at max warp speed? Unless it's big systems with something like 80AU in radius. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9925
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Posted - 2014.05.18 10:07:00 -
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Anathema Device wrote:Gypsio III wrote:Belinda HwaFang wrote:Gypsio III wrote:Please remove the immunity to cargo scanning. This will make it much safer to autopilot around in highsec in an empty BR, while not affecting anyone who is flying manually with valuable cargo, because of the cloak.
Currently, the scan immunity bonus essentially means that you can't AP around in an empty BR, you have to fly it manually everywhere. This can be a real pain. That's the whole point of the ship. You are using the wrong ship for AFK hauling. Try the (new improved) DST, or an Orca, or a new nerfed freighter, or a T1 indy. I'm not AFK hauling, that's the entire point! I just want to be able move an empty BR back to base without having to manually fly it. Every hauler can safely AP around highsec when empty - with the exception of the blockade runners. The cargo scan immunity removed this ability. It's mental! It doesn't matter what Transport Ship you are using there is still a chance of being ganked for the LOLs. E.g. my empty Occator in HiSec wasn't safe from a ganking attempt. The Blockade Runners have something unique and I can't accept that they should lose this for HiSec autopiloting safety. No, you're right. They should lose it because it's useless. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Sweet Times
Riptide Riot
2
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Posted - 2014.05.18 10:30:00 -
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why are you messing with the mass of the prowler its agility is the reason i prefer it this is not a boost its a nerf
why is everything to do with transporting stuff around getting nerfed while at the same time you want industry to spread out
kronos is going to affect the market in eve more than anythig else maybe we should all just move to jitta and do everything there pvp industry all in 1 system and **** the rest of eve
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Sweet Times
Riptide Riot
2
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Posted - 2014.05.18 10:44:00 -
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why have you nerfed the prowlers agility by so much the abilit to align and warp quickly is the reason these ships are so good at what they do and hard to catch all i see is a nerf to it by these changes if it wasnt nerfed enough in the last major patch by the warp speed changes stop killing my game plz ccp
im getting so pissed off with all these nerfs maybe its time to play a new game that doesent **** me off so much |
Digger Pollard
Why So Platypus
2
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Posted - 2014.05.18 11:05:00 -
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Let me put it simple (apparently, Fozzie needs this simplicity very badly):
NOBODY CARES ABOUT BLOCKADE RUNNERS
Those ships have obscene cost, useless options, and pointless strengths. After this rebalance they keep obscene cost, get more useless options, and receive a buff to pointless strengths.
It's probably a record-setting rebalance in terms of amount of changes per impact on actual game. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
624
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Posted - 2014.05.18 11:40:00 -
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Digger Pollard wrote:Let me put it simple (apparently, Fozzie needs this simplicity very badly):
NOBODY CARES ABOUT BLOCKADE RUNNERS
Those ships have obscene cost, useless options, and pointless strengths. After this rebalance they keep obscene cost, get more useless options, and receive a buff to pointless strengths.
It's probably a record-setting rebalance in terms of amount of changes per impact on actual game. Who pissed in your cheerios? people use these things all the time. An d nothing but buffs means they just got more fun. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
624
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Posted - 2014.05.18 11:44:00 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:The velocity bonus doesn't help much, and on all at1 industrials it was awitched to agility which is mountains better on this kind of ship. Yes, an agility bonus would be more powerful. That doesn't mean it's the best bonus to give the ship. Considering that the deceleration has been changed to -2AU/s/s due to inties insta-warping gate-to-gate and the mass of these ships, would these ships even spend more than 2 seconds at max warp speed? Unless it's big systems with something like 80AU in radius. yes. at full skills they are just shy of inty speed and will warp in a similar fashion. When they set the 2AU/s rule they didnt change the acceleration at all. |
Gregor Parud
496
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Posted - 2014.05.18 11:45:00 -
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Gypsio III wrote:Please remove the immunity to cargo scanning. This will make it much safer to autopilot around in highsec in an empty BR, while not affecting anyone who is flying manually with valuable cargo, because of the cloak.
Currently, the scan immunity bonus essentially means that you can't AP around in an empty BR, you have to fly it manually everywhere. This can be a real pain.
Seconding this. There's zero logical reasons for a BR to have scan immunity, if the pilot is active he's pretty much immune to it any way and if afk moving while empty it just creates risk where none is needed. I'm not seeing the need or logic behind it other than "they're not intended for high sec use" which, this being a sandbox, is a weird stance to have. |
Jattila Vrek
Green Visstick High
7
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Posted - 2014.05.18 11:52:00 -
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I don't like the cargo space buff. If you want DSTs to have a role anywhere then one of their distinguishing features is their larger cargo bay. Adding more cargo space to BRs just makes it harder to give DSTs any role at all. BRs are already very popular, if you want DSTs to see use, that can only happen if other ships (incl. BRs) are used less.
I.m.o.: - BR moves valuable stuff fast through hi- and lowsec - DST can move larger volumes and can move relatively safe in nullsec |
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