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Vincintius Agrippa
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Posted - 2014.05.20 17:34:00 -
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Question, will everything in eve cost significantly more because of this? After all everything is shipped with freighters. This seems like a loose loose situation. Less capacity means more trips. Then fuel nerf means it cant go as far. Sure you can fit rigs, but these rigs cost almost a bi each, and now that 1bil jf jumps to 4bil.
Casual patches and upgrades that increase gameplay are fine, but the inert tendency to push the nerf button every month or so isnt. Most of ccp's "balancing" desrtoying one thing and building another up. ex. You like a certain ship. You like the way it looks, you like the way it flies, you like and understand what you can do in it. CCP sees this and grabs the hammer of thor. They cut pg and cpu and increase mass and lower agility. And histerically they do the opposite to your ships direct competitor. Essentially making something that seems popular worse, just because it is popular.
Now i dont think one should reign supreme, but I dont think everything should be equal either. There should be a counter to your ship. Meaning each ship should be able to counter the other and atleast have equal chance of survival on paper. However know what you can and can't fight. |
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Posted - 2014.05.20 19:16:00 -
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I dont see why this change was implemented in the first place. There arent many ways to fit a jf or freighter anyway. So there shouldn't have been a big surprise to how people fit them.
The goal of freighters is to move the maximum amount of cargo from point A to point B in the least amount of time with the most efficiency, without getting ganked.
Cargo or agility rigs on a freighter? Blasphemy. Agility mods? What madness! Low-grade NOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMaaaaaaaaaaaaadddds? Sacrilege! |
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Posted - 2014.05.20 19:27:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:sisi changes http://pastebin.com/5NdjVCGUsourcethere's mention of fuel rigs. "his ship modification is designed to decrease the fuel requirements of jump drive travel at the expense of fuel bay capacity. Penalty: Using more than one type of this module or similar modules that affect the same attribute on the ship will be penalized." enjoy.
Oh yeah, who scans down sites uncloaked lol? Hi-sec maybe? Low-sec, null, and wormhole space is suicide.
As for fuel rigs: That like saying "This rig reduces the capacitor need need of entering warp, but decreases warp speed". I'd understand some loss of cargo space with THIS rig, but does it not defeat the purpose with reduced fuel capacity?
New medium grade Pirate implants? Interesting. |
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Posted - 2014.05.20 19:56:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Vincintius Agrippa wrote:As for fuel rigs: That like saying "This rig reduces the capacitor need need of entering warp, but decreases warp speed". it's not like saying that at all
No, but it is a good approximation of most people attitudes toward it.
Perhaps this is a better one: Starting June, car manufacturers are doubling the mpg of their new vehicles, but they are cutting the size of all current gas tanks by half. ------- You see, it defeats the f******g purpose.
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Posted - 2014.05.20 19:57:00 -
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I suppose, some large alliances with good enough logistics could make it work, but for everyone else not so much. |
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Posted - 2014.05.20 20:04:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:Vincintius Agrippa wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Vincintius Agrippa wrote:As for fuel rigs: That like saying "This rig reduces the capacitor need need of entering warp, but decreases warp speed". it's not like saying that at all No, but it is a good approximation of most people attitudes toward it. Perhaps this is a better one: Starting June, car manufacturers are doubling the mpg of their new vehicles, but they are cutting the size of all current gas tanks by half. ------- You see, it defeats the f******g purpose. gas isn't free Exactly, the same trip is costing you half as much... which in this case is exactly the point, not increasing your range.
I'd rather have a large gas tank and better gas mileage :) |
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Posted - 2014.05.20 21:43:00 -
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Valterra Craven wrote:Tippia wrote:Valterra Craven wrote:You do realize I added an edit before you posted right? You do realise that it makes no difference, right? And you do realise that what I quoted was what was in your post at the time, right? Again, you made a mistake. Live with it. What was the mistake?
HHm, you two share a striking resemblance to eachother :) |
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Posted - 2014.05.21 03:50:00 -
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Ramona Quimby wrote:Unsub three accounts.
Freighters could easily be buffed tank wise 3 to 10 times in EHP, just to keep up with how easy it has become to kill them.
Instead they're being nerfed to please Goons and Gankers.
Stop nerfing hi-sec and buffing null-sec.
Instead: Buff hi-sec, nerf null-sec, and ban null-sec players from CSM, only hi-sec and low-sec should matter. Nerf-null.
I'm soory, but I was completely distracted by your hair due :D |
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Posted - 2014.05.21 17:30:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:Dracvlad wrote:
Well you should care, but you are too up your self to understand that if Eve keeps going this way then the only people left in Eve will be gankers, griefers, scammers, meta-gamers, power gamers
u mean the ppl that actually play this game? if u want a non-PvP game like starcitizen then why did u join a PvP MMO in the first place? why are u in a game where ganking, greifing, scamming, meta-gaming and power gaming is not just ok, its applauded.
Whoa whoa whoa, Whats all this talk of eve being a pvp mmo? Despite what most people think, eve isn't Unreal tournament Online in space. It is a sandbox game where you can do whatever you want. Non pvp players are the backbone of eve actually and make up a significant amount of subscriptions. Non pvp players, also known by the derogative term care bare(s) are provide for most of the things in eve except directly blowing someone else up.
If this game was solely based on pvp then we would not have no industry, no pi, we'd have nothing actually.
We'd be the online version of HOMEWORLD. |
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Posted - 2014.05.21 17:33:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote:TheMercenaryKing wrote:Love the new update, but one question, when will damage controls become passive mods? That indeed is a good question. The answer to this question is "not in Kronos, but possibly at a later date". Either way that's a discussion for another thread since these ships cannot fit Damage Controls. **** yeah!
I love your nereus videos, quite awesome in fact. |
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Posted - 2014.05.21 18:45:00 -
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whoa whoa whoa, u have absolutely no idea what ur talking about.
PvP players mine too. PvP players market trade too. PvP players mission too. PvP players use freighters too. PvP players manufacture too.
no, the game does not depend on carebears for anything. they are no back bone for anything. This is a PvP game. u should look up the definition of PvP and 'carebear'. (or here)
edit no'2 definition is better
Quote:As an insult, the term applies less to players who merely prefer PVE to PVP and more to individuals who question the basic legitimacy of PVP or who greatly overreact to their avatars' deaths'
Quote:The key perceived difference between 'carebears' and players who simply PvE is their attitude towards PvP encounters. [/quote]
.........And you guys like to pretend that all you do is pvp.
Pay closer attention to what I was trying to say, 1. This game isnt solely about pvp. Never has, Never should be. I doubt anyone would enjoy the game if it was full of nuthing but gankers, greifers, and blobs. Once again its SANDBOX, make of it as you will. 2. Non pvp'ers and non pvp activities ARE the backbone of this game. For, if no one is building and no one is mining, what do you fight in? Capsules? Likewise, Pvp is also a backbone because they buy a significant amount of the things being built. 3. Mining: Carebear activity Missioning: Carebear Activity, Market trading carebear activity. Regardless of where and how you choose to do so. Most of which Is done with alts I assume. 4. Neither you or your alts is mining, missioning, or trading 23hrs a day 7 days a week like carebears in highsec. Or, any more than a few hours a day. If your are its afk. If its afk your a carebear just like the guys in highsec. If you arent, your still a carebear because your mining all day. 5. Your isk alts don't count. 6. Mining in nullsec doesnt make you not a carebear. 7 Missioning in null sec does not make you not a carebear.
8. Major alliances don't count because all of that mining and missioning happens in their space. So all those alts are "secure" so to speak.
Long story short, Carebearing supports eve. No matteer how you try to disguise it. End of discussion. |
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:50:00 -
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Shizuken wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:
The base cargo capacity of Freighters is being decreased so that a set of three Tech Two Expanded Cargoholds adds 21-25% cargo above the previous maximum values. For Jump Freighters, three T2 Expanders will increase cargo capacity by 1-2%. This means that Freighters can get significantly higher maximum capacity than before using modules, and we're increasing the volume of packaged capital ships (to 1.3 million m3) and unpackaged station containers (to 2 million m3) to compensate.
I am still not sure why CCP is so afraid of caps in highsec, especially even unassembled ones. It would make trading them easier.
Is the cap ban before they changed the old aoe doommsdays? if so then i understand. Cant have titans doing supernovas' on the jita undock.
But now, doomsdays are "aimed" weapons.I dont see why not now.
Ofcourse If they did naturally, using doomsdays in hisec would be a criminal offence and youd get alpha'd by concord. |
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:52:00 -
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Celly S wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote: They're already used to taking measures to avoid getting caught ^^This^^ as well as what the other poster said about freighters and fleets. I almost never tell anyone when I'm flying my JF until after I'm where I need to be... like my hairdresser, "only my cyno alt knows for sure" o/ Celly Smunt
Oh, I get your name now lol. |
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