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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.22 15:26:00 -
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Riyria Twinpeaks wrote:Hey, I just remembered "Barbarella" .. :D
Such amazing psychedelic special effects. Seriously fun movie.
"In Hollywood, more often than not, they're making more kind of traditional films, stories that are understood by people. And the entire story is understood. And they become worried if even for one small moment something happens that is not understood by everyone."
-- David Lynch
"Don't make a film if it can't be the film you want to make. It's a joke, and a sick joke, and it'll kill you."
-- David Lynch (on Dune)
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
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Posted - 2014.05.22 15:29:00 -
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Best sharknado.
Worst 2001. http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.22 15:33:00 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:Best sharknado.
Worst 2001.
Yeah, we believe you. Yup. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.05.24 02:59:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Did I just miss it or did nobody mention the "Wing Commander" Film as worst?
Webvan wrote:Worst... Maybe as far as disappointment, Wing Commander. yeah, some peeps will say "but that was great!", but it really flopped pretty badly, and it was bad, and not even making it as a cult classic, and it was bad... and I don't mean good-bad, but just... bad.
Sibyyl wrote:Actually I will admit that Wing Commander was one of my sci-fi guilty pleasure movies. This, along with Timecop, Sliders (TV show), Quantum Leap, and Primer (no one I know, besides myself, likes this movie). I never saw the movie but I remember a live action CD-ROM Wing Commander game narrated by Mark Hamill. I never got to play it but I could always hear it coming from the family room computer while I spent hours each day chained to the kitchen sink. Yeah I missed out on a lot of great media during those horrible years, and I knew about all of it being available, just out of reach.
Timecop was pretty great. I have to admit though, that the thing I liked most about it was Mark Hamill. But it also was just a generally higher convention quality than the big budget films we have today--by that I mean that the basic stuff was more realistic, unlike today's movies where everything takes place in a completely different universe where even the most mundane things happen completely differently from real life. I get so tired of those and will prefer some of the most mundane crap over films that insult the intelligence of viewers with Down's Syndrome.
I got into watching Sliders recently. Good show for its time. I've only seen about 8 episodes or so, but I started to get tired of it by that point.
I used to watch Quantum Leap with my dad. I liked the two main characters and I thought they had some real chemistry, but it always bothered me when he'd be someone else and still look like himself. Still a great show. I really should boot it up and start watching again. I never got tired of it, I just joined the military and then my dad died. I guess it'll bring back good memories.
And you can go ahead and add two more to that list of people who liked Primer. My brother Matthew is into indie films with thought-provoking plots, and he finds some rather interesting titles. I really enjoyed that movie and I was just blown away by the work they put into the realism and plausibility, and the depth of the explanations. For a science nerd like me, it really was like coming up for air after holding my breath underwater for the last several years.
Blade Runner was great, as was 2001: A Space Odyssey. I like all of the Next Generation Star Trek movies. Insurrection was originally my favorite, but as I look back I find that both Generations and First Contact are especially memorable, and I didn't like Nemesis when I first watched it but I saw it recently and it clicked a lot better that time. But Voyager was always my favorite series. I really wish we could get some Voyager and Deep Space 9 movies. Yeah, I'm totally a Trekker. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.02 10:01:00 -
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This is a tough one as there have been a handful of good science fiction films, few very good and plenty of simply dreadful films.
On the whole my list would look like:
BEST FILM: Stalker
WORST FILM: Liquid Sky
I saw Liquid Sky in a cinema in Antwerp in about '84 and I couldn't believe how bad it was. I think that it's fair to say that nothing that I have seen comes as close to that. I haven't seen Battlefield Earth but I expect that would be a masterpiece in comparison.
Stalker is simply excellent. No, there are no spaceships in there (they've long gone as it happens) but it's a wonderfully made film and a little hard going. And, oh, it's in Russian but that doesn't detract at all.
To the mainstream list. Of the Alien series, which I adore, my favourite is the so-called Director's Cut of Alien 3, followed by the orginal then not sure about the ranking of the last two. Slightly less mainstream is Jodie Foster's Contact because the concept of the film is fantastic.
Back to the bottom end of my list. I remember disliking the Trek films, though the last outing of the series is far, far better and puts them into the so-so category. One I remember failing to avoid all the time was the dreadful Enemy Mine which for reason my mate seemed to like. Mind you he was permanently drunk and had one eye so that may have been the reason for that.
2001 headed off this list and, sorry, no. It didn't work as a film for me at all. I have never been a fan of Kubrick and apart from a few iconic moments the film wasn't as good as its reputation. But this is, of course, a subjective opinion. A lot of people won't like my Alien 3 choice because it didn't have Hollywood actors and lots of guns but differeng opinions is the point of all this. GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.06.02 12:59:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:This is a tough one as there have been a handful of good science fiction films, few very good and plenty of simply dreadful films.
On the whole my list would look like:
BEST FILM: Stalker
WORST FILM: Liquid Sky
I saw Liquid Sky in a cinema in Antwerp in about '84 and I couldn't believe how bad it was. I think that it's fair to say that nothing that I have seen comes as close to that. I haven't seen Battlefield Earth but I expect that would be a masterpiece in comparison.
Stalker is simply excellent. No, there are no spaceships in there (they've long gone as it happens) but it's a wonderfully made film and a little hard going. And, oh, it's in Russian but that doesn't detract at all.
To the mainstream list. Of the Alien series, which I adore, my favourite is the so-called Director's Cut of Alien 3, followed by the orginal then not sure about the ranking of the last two. Slightly less mainstream is Jodie Foster's Contact because the concept of the film is fantastic.
Back to the bottom end of my list. I remember disliking the Trek films, though the last outing of the series is far, far better and puts them into the so-so category. One I remember failing to avoid all the time was the dreadful Enemy Mine which for reason my mate seemed to like. Mind you he was permanently drunk and had one eye so that may have been the reason for that.
2001 headed off this list and, sorry, no. It didn't work as a film for me at all. I have never been a fan of Kubrick and apart from a few iconic moments the film wasn't as good as its reputation. But this is, of course, a subjective opinion. A lot of people won't like my Alien 3 choice because it didn't have Hollywood actors and lots of guns but differeng opinions is the point of all this.
You liked "Stalker" but not "Liquid Sky" ? Both are kinda similar, in that they are pretty much non-technology based SF.
The audience I saw Alien 3 with mostly walked out at the end, very angry at the badness. I've never experienced anything like it before or since. I mean, people were appalled when Newt and Michael Biehn were offed before the opening credits were done, especially after the long heroic struggle in Aliens. Ugh.
I disagree with your summation of "2001", especially since you don't really outline your complaints at all. You are in a lonely field on that one.
"Enemy Mine" is pleasant enough. Morethe quality of an HBO production than a full on theatrical film, but it works. The original short story won both the Hugo and the Nebula Award. It's a very faithful adaptation. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.06.02 13:44:00 -
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The new Tom Cruiser "Edge of Tomorrow" is being billed as a Post-Apocalyptic "Groundhog Day".
m'kayyyyyy............
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.02 14:20:00 -
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To be fair, I did say the so-called Director's Cut of Alien 3.
If you saw the version shown in the cinema, which sounds like you did, then you're right it was a total mess. The problem lay entirely with Sony who messed around with the script, the writers, gave the first time director no power and generally seemed to go all out to make the worst film of all time.
The treatment of the director was such that he almost stopped directing there and then. But thankfully Fincher didn't as he gave us the wonderful Fight Club next time out.
Compare and contrast with the extended version that was put together by the crew which rebullt the vision that Fincher had and the film is utterly different. For a start the story makes sense. Scenes which were pivotal were restored from the cutting room floor. And there was plenty cut too; half an hour of film had been restored.
As for getting shot of those two characters; well, they had their role in Aliens but with companions Ripley wouldn't have been alone in a gothic nightmare. The supporting characters in Alien 3 were so well drawn and presented that I don't think that there would have been room for Beihn to breathe. In fact apart from the first film's casting the supporting cast in this one was the strongest of the whole series.
The extended version of the film, not the cinematic release, is little appreciated for what it is. The cinematic releae version is, on the other hand, really, really poor and should be left outside to be exposed and feed the wolves.
I know a lot of people think that Aliens is the best of the lot. But it's another Cameron film with high budget and lots of guns. It was fun when I saw it in my mid twenties but now there's nothing there that's of substance. And if one creature can cause that much damage in the first and third films then a planet full of the beasts should have been an impossibility to overcome. It was just an updated version of a John Wayne WW2 film when he and his bunch of ever so gung-ho marines are able to fight off the whole of the Japanese army without breaking sweat. GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.06.02 15:37:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
I know a lot of people think that Aliens is the best of the lot. But it's another Cameron film with high budget and lots of guns. It was fun when I saw it in my mid twenties but now there's nothing there that's of substance. And if one creature can cause that much damage in the first and third films then a planet full of the beasts should have been an impossibility to overcome.
...which is why they nuked them. It was the only way to be sure.
I became skeptical of Alien 3 before it even lensed, as William Gibson had written an excellent screenplay set on an mining asteroid.....lot's of creepy twist tunnels and no gravity. That wasn't good enough for 20th Fox for whatever reason and they scrapped it. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Unsuccessful At Everything
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Posted - 2014.06.02 16:55:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:The new Tom Cruiser "Edge of Tomorrow" is being billed as a Post-Apocalyptic "Groundhog Day".
m'kayyyyyy............
Id watch the hell out of that movie if they would have gotten Bill Murray instead of Tom Cruise. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Graygor
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Posted - 2014.06.02 16:58:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:The new Tom Cruiser "Edge of Tomorrow" is being billed as a Post-Apocalyptic "Groundhog Day".
m'kayyyyyy............
Id watch the hell out of that movie if they would have gotten Bill Murray instead of Tom Cruise.
God damn that would be surreal. I'd keep imagining Murray fighting as his character from Stripes. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.06.02 17:00:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:The new Tom Cruiser "Edge of Tomorrow" is being billed as a Post-Apocalyptic "Groundhog Day".
m'kayyyyyy............
Id watch the hell out of that movie if they would have gotten Bill Murray instead of Tom Cruise.
'Tis indeed a much better idea. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.06.02 17:01:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:The new Tom Cruiser "Edge of Tomorrow" is being billed as a Post-Apocalyptic "Groundhog Day".
m'kayyyyyy............
Id watch the hell out of that movie if they would have gotten Bill Murray instead of Tom Cruise. God damn that would be surreal. I'd keep imagining Murray fighting as his character from Stripes.
Primary weapon....that spatula "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Emiko P'eng
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Posted - 2014.06.02 19:04:00 -
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Argh!
There are just to many Sci-Fi films I think are great, among the ones I like to re-watch:
Serenity2001 Original Star Wars Trilogy Akira Ghost in the Shell Alien (First X Rated film I watched) Bladerunner Clunkers beyond belief and understanding of man, that I have been unfortunate to have actually watched:
- Moontrap (Saw premier at 1984 World Con, everyone left in silence)
- Second Star Wars Trilogy
- Howard the Duck
- The Avengers (The British over the top Secret Agent in a Top Hat variety, not the US Comic lot)
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2014.06.02 19:18:00 -
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Emiko P'eng wrote:
The Avengers (The British over the top Secret Agent in a Top Hat variety, not the US Comic lot) [/list]
Alas that was a dreadful remake of the very excellent 1960s series.
GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper |
Reaver Glitterstim
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Posted - 2014.06.02 19:21:00 -
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Emiko P'eng wrote:Alien (First X Rated film I watched) Alien was rated X? Why, because a woman speaks without first being spoken to? Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.06.02 19:29:00 -
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its only kinda sci-fi, s its in the future, but Equilibrium is one bad ass movie 10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
Dorian Tormak
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Posted - 2014.06.02 19:35:00 -
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Oh, I actually just watched Moon for the first time. It is pretty great. I like how they made such a great movie using only a handful of actors. Sam Rockwell and Kevin Spacey, and then that's about it other than side characters who aren't even really in the plot.
I have a bit of a man-crush on Sam Rockwell, too. The guy just makes every movie he's in. Remember Galaxy Quest? "You're not gonna die on the planet, Guy." "I'm not? Then what's my last name?" "It's um.... I don't know..." "Nobody knows. You know why? Because my character isn't important enough for a last name, because I'm gonna die five minutes in!" "Guy, you have a last name." "DO I? DO I?? For all you know, I'm "Crewman Number 6"!"
"There's a, um... red thingy, uh, moving toward the green thingy...."
The Best of Guy "Hey, cruel world... you don't have what it takes! We don't need your FAITH, we got fuckin' FATE! Fate, fate, fate!" - Marilyn Manson |
Unsuccessful At Everything
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Posted - 2014.06.02 19:54:00 -
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I can find 200000 faults and plot holes with it, but I will watch Pacific Rim over and over.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Emiko P'eng
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Posted - 2014.06.02 22:58:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Emiko P'eng wrote:Alien (First X Rated film I watched) Alien was rated X? Why, because a woman speaks without first being spoken to? Hehe! Then you will love the real reason the BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) gave
Daily Telegraph - The real reason Alien was rated 18
'The science fiction movie Alien was banned for under 18s because the monster was thought to be too sexy and presented a "perverse view" of reproduction, archival material reveals'
As for The Avengers I still remember Diana Rigg as Emma Peel
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.06.02 23:08:00 -
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If they see that film as sexual, I have to wonder about their own sex lives. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:31:00 -
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Worst would probably have to be Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. No wait, there are worse, e.g. Highlander II.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:28:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:its only kinda sci-fi, s its in the future, but Equilibrium is one bad ass movie I just watched Equilibrium. It's cyberpunk, very much sci-fi. The core philosophy of sci-fi is to extrapolate on human advancement and tell a story that hasn't happened yet but could happen. Cyberpunk tells grim tales of dystopian societies in which a few elites control the masses through various ruthless means, often contradicting their own ideals. It is common in such stories for the elite to paint a clean, flawless fantasy world around themselves to cover up the broken and tattered world beyond that they have forsaken.
Equilibrium is some excellent science fiction, and I loved it! Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:30:00 -
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I really enjoyed Enemy Mine. What is funny is that Brazil, one of my favorite films, was passed over by Hollywood Executives for this gem. |
Reaver Glitterstim
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Posted - 2014.06.03 03:59:00 -
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I don't see the appeal of Enemy Mine. I like the basic idea that two races at war can come together, but what makes the movie difficult for me to stomach is the unlikability of Dennis Quaid's character. Right from the outset, I feel like these aliens are good people, and I spend pretty much the whole movie waiting for the human hero to come around. I kind of wish the human had died and the alien could have gotten help from someone actually helpful.
It was like District 9 in that way, only without all the cool effects and much better dialogue and character development.
Also, both of those movies had a very distinctly black alien who was completely passive and helpful being misunderstood by a clearly white human who had grown up learning to hate black aliens for no reason. I acknowledge the realism but I don't like to watch it. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
Graygor
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Posted - 2014.06.03 04:03:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I can find 200000 faults and plot holes with it, but I will watch Pacific Rim over and over.
That speech makes me cringe every single time. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
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Posted - 2014.06.03 04:25:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:I don't see the appeal of Enemy Mine. I like the basic idea that two races at war can come together, but what makes the movie difficult for me to stomach is the unlikability of Dennis Quaid's character. Right from the outset, I feel like these aliens are good people, and I spend pretty much the whole movie waiting for the human hero to come around. I kind of wish the human had died and the alien could have gotten help from someone actually helpful.
It was like District 9 in that way, only without all the cool effects and much better dialogue and character development.
Also, both of those movies had a very distinctly black alien who was completely passive and helpful being misunderstood by a clearly white human who had grown up learning to hate black aliens for no reason. I acknowledge the realism but I don't like to watch it.
I completely understand that line of thought as I have heard the complaint before.
I was raised in the south and this movie struck deep and hard. It was one of the catalizing moments in my life that led me in a path of understanding and tolerance as opposed to blatant ignorant racism (discovering the band Anthrax was even more catalizing). It mimiced what happened in my part of the world, as it did others, and it just so happened to cast two actors of opposing skin color. Unfortunatetly, during that point in time actors in Hollywood came in pretty much one color (Top billing actors of the 80's) so unless you think that it would have been better if two of the aformention acotrs had been used instead of one of them and Lou Gosset Jr (who performed epically in the movie imo) then the casting was spot on.
But yes, this movie was the Sci-Fi Civil War and it was supposed to portray some simpleton having to come to terms with to complete idiocy of their point of view.
Fake Edit: Quaid is kind of a middle man when it comes to acting but I believe the writting for his role was spot on; they had to cut cost somewhere . Gosset carried the movie, even with the clicks and clacks. |
Reaver Glitterstim
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Posted - 2014.06.03 05:08:00 -
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I thought Gosset did great. It was Quaid that sucked, and he's usually such a great actor. Oh well. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
Dav Varan
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Posted - 2014.06.03 12:50:00 -
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Best = Aliens
Worst = Black Hole complete travisty from 1st minute to last |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.06.03 13:31:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Also, both of those movies had a very distinctly black alien who was completely passive and helpful being misunderstood by a clearly white human who had grown up learning to hate black aliens for no reason. I acknowledge the realism but I don't like to watch it.
...and just how can an alien from another planet possibly be "African-American" ????????
The character is just from another non-human race.
The character was played by an African-American, and of course the movie is about racism. But that character is not black. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
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