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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.06.22 13:33:00 -
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Ranzabar wrote:
I watched Dune again last week. Hadn't seen it years. It was certainly an 80's movie. They tried. I think they really did, but it was really cheesy there in many places. However, it wasn't as bad as "The Black Hole". Now that was awful.
Blame the European investors that Dino deLaurentis found, who really wanted the next Star Wars, and not an exquisite work of cinema. They really had David Lynch in a bind of conflicting goals. (Sting was not David's idea.......Toto music was not his idea. The film originally had a full soundtrack by the amazing Brian Eno, that nobody has heard to this day).
Mr. Lynch calls it the greatest sadness of his life. And afterward vowed to never ever let anyone else have creative control of his films. And that has held to this very day.
Afterwards, Dino suggested he try "that script you showed me called Blue Velvet", and there was indeed no outside interference. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.22 13:53:00 -
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The 1980's Dune you don't really watch if you want a good treatment of the book. If you want a good treatment of the book, the closest you'll get is the Sci-Fi miniseries.
On the other hand, if you want a trippy space story that happens to be set in the Dune universe, yes by all means watch the 1980's Dune. I've always enjoyed it, and in fact in my other roleplays I always favor their version of the Guild Navigators when I portray one. (Love The Spacing Guild!)
I still want to see Jodorowsky's Dune, the documentary about his REALLY trippy failed attempt to make a Dune movie in the 1970's. David Lynch and DDL had nothing on this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodorowsky%27s_Dune ISD Supogo Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.22 14:27:00 -
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Ila Dace wrote:(...)There's nothing that has an actual "it's magic" explanation, at least from the audience's perspective (though "unobtanium" comes close).(...)
Minus the massive rocky islands floating in the sky, you mean? Q: So many well known dev's left lately, should we be worried? A: (Jester): Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.06.22 14:46:00 -
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Matilda Cecilia Fock wrote:Ila Dace wrote:(...)There's nothing that has an actual "it's magic" explanation, at least from the audience's perspective (though "unobtanium" comes close).(...)
Minus the massive rocky islands floating in the sky, you mean?
Unobtainium is a "McGuffin", just like "dilithium crystals" and "Red Matter". Or Flubber. They are used to fill in the blanks when a real life tech is not available or appropriate. They do not necessarily point to the fantastical, outside of SF.
They are a necessary storytelling device. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.22 14:49:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Unobtainium is a "McGuffin", just like "dilithium crystals" and "Red Matter". Or Flubber. They are used to fill in the blanks when a real life tech is not available or appropriate. They do not necessarily point to the fantastical, outside of SF.
They are a necessary storytelling device.
Quote:Technobabble (also known as Treknobabble) is a moniker describing the pseudo-scientific terminology of Star Trek. On Star Trek: The Next Generation, some of the actors dubbed it "Piller-filler" after executive producer Michael Piller. (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages, p. 252) According to Piller, the latter term originated with Brent Spiner, whose character of Data gave many techobabble speeches. Writers would frequently write "(TECH)" in draft scripts "as a sort of cry for help" to the science advisor Andr+¬ Bormanis, who would then come up with appropriate terminology.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Technobabble
Jus' sayin.
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Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.22 16:23:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Matilda Cecilia Fock wrote:Ila Dace wrote:(...)There's nothing that has an actual "it's magic" explanation, at least from the audience's perspective (though "unobtanium" comes close).(...)
Minus the massive rocky islands floating in the sky, you mean? Unobtainium is a "McGuffin", just like "dilithium crystals" and "Red Matter". Or Flubber. They are used to fill in the blanks when a real life tech is not available or appropriate. They do not necessarily point to the fantastical, outside of SF. They are a necessary storytelling device.
McGuffin my ass. There are only 4 forces in the universe and none of them could keep those islands floating in the sky without causing severe side effects and/or being easily disruptable.
If it's a form of electromagnetism, heat it, block it, flip it around or bring a larger EM field and then let gravity follow its course. KA-BOOM, good bye blue punks. Not to mention that whatever makes the islands fly, can make human machines fly too.
As for gravity effects... well no, you REALLY do not want to go along that path.
Q: So many well known dev's left lately, should we be worried? A: (Jester): Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
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Myles Wong
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.22 16:42:00 -
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Best : I would say Bladerunner. Love me some cyberpunk
Worst: Dreadfully cheesy. |
Brigitte
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.22 18:37:00 -
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Alien! |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
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Posted - 2014.06.22 19:47:00 -
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My favorite is silent running but some people might dislike it because of it's "green themes". Then there's the usual fare of Aliens, terminators, star wars (originals) already mentioned here.
Then there are quite a bunch of bad films that most flop in one way or another such as prometheus which from the story point makes little sense when you start putting pieces together. Space odyssey is hailed as a master piece by many but from a narrative perspective that film is an utter bore and when I was a kid I usually fell a sleep with the Blue Danube playing right at the beginning and woke at somepoint before Hal was being put to pieces. New star war films were a terrible disappointment and the trailer that I saw from episode 1 was actually better cut then the actual film which should tell you something. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.06.22 19:49:00 -
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Matilda Cecilia Fock wrote:
McGuffin my ass. There are only 4 forces in the universe and none of them could keep those islands floating in the sky without causing severe side effects and/or being easily disruptable.
If it's a form of electromagnetism, heat it, block it, flip it around or bring a larger EM field and then let gravity follow its course. KA-BOOM, good bye blue punks. Not to mention that whatever makes the islands fly, can make human machines fly too.
As for gravity effects... well no, you REALLY do not want to go along that path.
Hey buddy....no need to be so rude.
In the context of it's use in the story, and it's complete lack of information. It is indeed a fictive McGuffin.
Just like the Maltese Falcon. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
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Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2014.06.22 21:48:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:umm.....as best or worst ??? It's like a miniature paradoxon, because depending on who you are, it can actually be both at once. Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2014.06.22 22:20:00 -
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Has anyone mentioned Cloud Atlas yet?
I really expected to hate it, heard nothing but negative feedback, but I reckoned it couldn't be worse than generic superhero stuff. It's probably the film I've enjoyed the most in recent years. Really hope it becomes a cult classic.
It's not mindblowing or actually all that clever if you're familiar with the genres it references. But it's intricate, well directed and has a strong cast. When I watched it the first time I immediately realised I'd like to watch it again, and read the book, which is rare - but I didn't because it is better to mentally return to it in some ways. It's referencing and slyly reworking a hell of a lot of other genres and motifs - not just sci fi, storytelling but also cinematic themes (5th Element vs Django vs MadMax vs Shaft).
Anyway, I just watched it again and noticed that the film is a symphony movement, stylistically. Which I didn't notice the first time around because I was paying attention to the plot/characters, but is a subtext. It is quite long, and there are a lot of characters, but I think that allows you to interpret it differently each time, which is pleasing. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.06.22 22:31:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Has anyone mentioned Cloud Atlas yet?
I really expected to hate it, heard nothing but negative feedback, but I reckoned it couldn't be worse than generic superhero stuff. It's probably the film I've enjoyed the most in recent years. Really hope it becomes a cult classic.
It's not mindblowing or actually all that clever if you're familiar with the genres it references. But it's intricate, well directed and has a strong cast. When I watched it the first time I immediately realised I'd like to watch it again, and read the book, which is rare - but I didn't because it is better to mentally return to it in some ways. It's referencing and slyly reworking a hell of a lot of other genres and motifs - not just sci fi, storytelling but also cinematic themes (5th Element vs Django vs MadMax vs Shaft).
Anyway, I just watched it again and noticed that the film is a symphony movement, stylistically. Which I didn't notice the first time around because I was paying attention to the plot/characters, but is a subtext. It is quite long, and there are a lot of characters, but I think that allows you to interpret it differently each time, which is pleasing.
I'm really looking forward to the Wachowski Sibling's next "Jupiter Ascending". "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2014.06.22 22:50:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I'm really looking forward to the Wachowski Sibling's next "Jupiter Ascending". Just had a look at the trailer. Sean Bean = SOLD! It looks a bit heavy on CGI/makeup for my taste, less on plot/character but I'll watch it v0v
I just watched Man of Steel. Made me a bit sad, and annoyed. I liked the trailer, really like Cavill and Costner and his mother (can't remember name but she was awesome in Cotton Club). And it was just ~ hrrr, ugh, no, really? Not sure who they are trying to please there, the comic fans who know the backstory, older viewers, or (without wishing to be rude) those who want to re-enact 9/11 over and over again. I had to stop watching Olympus Has Fallen 20 minutes in because it was annoying me. But the sight of Lawrence Fishburn dragging someone out of mangled wreckage really did turn my stomach. I'm not sure why this crap is being pumped out, but that final fight scene in a burnt out city should have been shot in Kabul for authenticity. Or Srebrenica. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Brigitte
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.23 13:44:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:umm.....as best or worst ???
The best scifi film of course |
NightmareX
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:51:00 -
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Purity by Fire wrote:Darnit to many to choose from Best Blade runner Aliens special edition ( you know the ones with the added sentry guns that remind me of baby space sentries ) Star Trek into Darkness Worst Oblivion ( cant stand the film my wife actually understood it which means its crap) Oblivion is actually one of my favourite movies today. The movie isn't perfect but it's pretty darn close to be perfect.
My list on what's the best movies for me is:
1. Oblivion 2. Elysium 2. Star Trek Into Darkness 3. Battleship (2012) 4. Halo 4 - Forward Unto Dawn 5. Sunshine 6. Star Wars Episode I - VI 7. Space Battleship Yamato 8. Serenity
When it comes to the bad movies, i don't remember any names right now as i usually forget about the bad movies. 8. Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos.
Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama (31.10.2013): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=291945 Rebirth 4: http://tinyurl.com/ktfyalo |
Mirajane Cromwell
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Posted - 2014.06.25 19:35:00 -
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Best - there's too many to pick one so I'll say a few of them: Aliens, Bladerunner, The Matrix, Back to the future, District 9, Ghost in the shell.
Worst - Invasion:Ufo or Naked Space. After seeing those two even After Earth and Battlefield Earth movies seem to be ok. |
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.26 13:27:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Purity by Fire wrote:Darnit to many to choose from Best Blade runner Aliens special edition ( you know the ones with the added sentry guns that remind me of baby space sentries ) Star Trek into Darkness Worst Oblivion ( cant stand the film my wife actually understood it which means its crap) Oblivion is actually one of my favourite movies today. The movie isn't perfect but it's pretty darn close to be perfect. My list on what's the best movies for me is: 1. Oblivion2. Elysium2. Star Trek Into Darkness3. Battleship (2012)4. Halo 4 - Forward Unto Dawn5. Sunshine (This is actually a low-budget movie) 6. Star Wars Episode I - VI 7. Space Battleship Yamato8. SerenityThe pretty cool thing with the Oblivion movie is that most of the movie is recorded in Iceland . When it comes to the bad movies, i don't remember any names right now as i usually forget about the bad movies.
Houm, how many SF films have you seen? 12? Q: So many well known dev's left lately, should we be worried? A: (Jester): Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
500
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Posted - 2014.06.26 17:32:00 -
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Hell yeah, Space Battleship Yamato!
The live action movie really could've been better- but the series has been my favorite show for nearly my whole life- go watch 'Space Battleship Yamato 2199' if you like it- it's a remake of all of series 1 and it's awesome!
Also, I liked Prometheus. I don't care what you say about what's wrong with it- I agree that a LOT is wrong with it, but I really enjoyed it anyways!
"A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
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Posted - 2014.06.26 17:35:00 -
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I learned everything I needed to know about life from Galaxy Quest. |
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Umbrarum Paradisi
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Posted - 2014.06.26 17:46:00 -
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Morihei Akachi wrote:I learned everything I needed to know about life from Galaxy Quest. Oh man that movie is the best "A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams....is built in heaven."
-Jovian Proverb-á |
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