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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
820
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Posted - 2014.06.04 00:59:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:excuses.
Make and publicise a channel called Hisec Duels, this thread has devolved.
Just because nobody wants to play with you doesn't mean people don't want to play.
"No Fight" culture, nonsense.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
6761
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:02:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:excuses. Make and publicise a channel called Hisec Duels, this thread has devolved. Just because nobody wants to play with you doesn't mean people don't want to play. "No Fight" culture, nonsense.
Interestingly, I think that someone started a duelling association on Reddit a month or two ago, that might be worth looking into also.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Winchester Steele
1194
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:03:00 -
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Greg Erata wrote:Infiltrate his corp or circle of friends, rob him, gank him, and post all the tears for our amusement (last bit is optional, but highly recommended). That's how you get your guaranteed fights.
I'm telling Uncle Ripard on you.
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1154
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:06:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:excuses. Make and publicise a channel called Hisec Duels, this thread has devolved. Just because nobody wants to play with you doesn't mean people don't want to play. "No Fight" culture, nonsense.
Let me share a little something with you... bro...
I would never have gotten away with a thread like this, maybe 3-4 years ago. I would have been eaten alive by everyone here... and not by troll posts but with far more challenges then i could possibly keep up with. Fast-forward to today, I get you... a guy with 0 kills and 37 losses since 2009 telling me about PVP in eve while he is bitching out.
I get ONE SINGLE miner accept a fight with me, and a suicide ganker miraculously disappear from this thread. I get supreme killers on test serves who refuse to fight me. I mean.. are you kidding me?
I don't know what you have been doing since 2009 but it obviously has not been an involvement in eve's ever evolving PVP culture. I am sorry man, but in this instance you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1154
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:07:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:excuses. Make and publicise a channel called Hisec Duels, this thread has devolved. Just because nobody wants to play with you doesn't mean people don't want to play. "No Fight" culture, nonsense. Interestingly, I think that someone started a duelling association on Reddit a month or two ago, that might be worth looking into also.
Already did that... I called it the Thunderdome.
Guess what happened.... two men did not want to enter, because they were afraid only one would leave.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2001
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:09:00 -
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Hold on a second!
I told you it's likely I'm busy, because of clothes!
It's not like I'm gone or something!
Poof, magically disappeared!
You can still always find me in Hek
and I'll most likely be less busy then.
Sadly, the new clothing options are far more limited than I hoped. :(
How does one empty the signature? |
Chewytowel Haklar
Interstellar Angels of the Crimson Void
0
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:30:00 -
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I'm pretty much a brand new player who is perhaps 2 weeks old. So far my experience with pvp is simply getting destroyed everytime I try to fight back, and to make matters worse an experienced player was wardec'd my Corporation mostly filled with new players as well. I have lost a Rupture to this guy, and I lost a couple Ventures to other guys by taking risks in danger space.
Mostly the reasons I can think of are this for me:
It takes quite a bit of time putting together all the mods, weapons, ammo, and everything else just to fit whatever ship I have.
Ships cost Isk which doesn't grow on trees for most truly new players (unless they buy a couple PLEX and sell them, or know of ways via friends on how to make Isk fast).
It's frustrating having to wait to max out the appropriate skills for just ONE THING like focusing on frigate dps and skills only for a week or so when I want to do other stuff and explore the game. Basically I don't really want to put all my points into just one thing at first but many to diversify.
I don't really know what I am doing, and the idea of loosing dozens and dozens of ships I have to refit over and over again just to learn seems incredibly frustrating. Not to mention that it also seems REALLY expensive as well.
Lastly, the only true place I know of where I can just start fighting random people would be in nullsec without CONCORD interference, and that means little me is gonna be swimming in the deep end with all the BIG sharks and super maxxed out ships. Doesn't sound promising as a solo player frankly. Even if I was with others atm I'm sure we'd only make a nice snack for some nullsec players.
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1154
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:43:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Hold on a second!
I told you it's likely I'm busy, because of clothes!
It's not like I'm gone or something!
Poof, magically disappeared!
You can still always find me in Hek
and I'll most likely be less busy then.
Sadly, the new clothing options are far more limited than I hoped. :(
Ok tomorrow then 
And unfortunately... most eve expansions are so lack luster.
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1154
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:49:00 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
...quoted text...
I sent you an eve mail. The instructional vids there should be helpful for both yourself and your corp. When in doubt, just buy a shuttle. They are so small they are very hard to catch. If everyone in your corp is flying around in shuttles the war targets will have very little to do with themselves.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
820
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:57:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:...nobody wants to play with me because i'm so awesome...herf blerf .
This is a forum alt, the pvp main can't enter hisec, used to be sov F1 monkey, now lowsec piwat.
Read what i wrote, again, i never challenged you to anything. Hisec 1v1s, please.
Everybody is too cowardly to fight you, or you're so obnoxious nobody wants to play with you, which is more likely?
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
820
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Posted - 2014.06.04 02:01:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:...I would never have gotten away with a thread like this, maybe 3-4 years ago. I would have been eaten alive by everyone here... and not by troll posts but with far more challenges thAn i could possibly keep up with...
Many people left hisec, maybe you should too.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1154
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Posted - 2014.06.04 02:12:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:...I would never have gotten away with a thread like this, maybe 3-4 years ago. I would have been eaten alive by everyone here... and not by troll posts but with far more challenges thAn i could possibly keep up with... Many people left hisec, maybe you should too.
Did that... it was way worse.
And what is that toon for? A scout? I guess if you can't post with your main I should not expect you to accept a fair roll of the dice in combat either. Have a nice day sir, i think you have said your peace here. Now please be off.
Feel free to also eve mail me the name of your main, and a location where I can come meet you for some antimatter love 
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2004
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Posted - 2014.06.04 02:49:00 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:It's frustrating having to wait to max out the appropriate skills for just ONE THING like focusing on frigate dps and skills only for a week or so when I want to do other stuff and explore the game. Basically I don't really want to put all my points into just one thing at first but many to diversify. Then don't.
Nobody skills to V through in one go at the beginning.
You can easily skill lots of things to 1 just to be able to use them. Add riggs to the mix after that,
which takes a little longer, and you'll have even more options.
You can skill for the ability to use most stuff within the very first day, or two, easily.
How does one empty the signature? |
Solj RichPopolous
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
55
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Posted - 2014.06.04 03:21:00 -
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Didn't read the other posts but I can attest that EVE players have an aversion to fighting, at least the majority (95% or so). |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
823
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Posted - 2014.06.04 04:38:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:[..
Many people left hisec, maybe you should too.
Did that... it was way worse. And what is that toon for? A scout? I guess if you can't post with your main I should not expect you to accept a fair roll of the dice in combat either. Have a nice day sir, i think you have said your peace here. Now please be off. Feel free to also eve mail me the name of your main, and a location where I can come meet you for some antimatter love
Yes e-bushido is pretty much a no-no in null and low.
This is a forum toon.
All my posts have been informing you that expecting fairness in combat is Wrong.
It's say your piece, not peace.
That last line makes it sound like you're not a highsec e-honore crybaby, but we have this thread to remind us.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1155
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Posted - 2014.06.04 11:53:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:[
That last line makes it sound like you're not a highsec e-honore crybaby, but we have this thread to remind us.
I'll make a deal with you Chopper, since this thread's theme is to demonstrate and discuss EVE "No Fight" culture. You eve mail me your main and give me a location anywhere in the universe. High sec, low sec or at your home base in null. Out fit yourself an interceptor or assault frigate of any race, and I will come out there and meet you in mine.
That's a pretty cheap ship for an awesome null sec guy like you to lose. Amiright? 
I'm sure all of your buddies will get a kick out of said fight in local. And don't worry, I promise not to come out there and AFK cloak... thus shutting down your entire system of awesome sauce null sec fighters who no longer have a need for us simpletons in empire.
So what do you say Chopper?
Want to hot drop a triage carrier on your interceptor/Af in a 1v1 with me in YOUR OWNHOME SYSTEM in nullsec? Or is that too much risk for you? 
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
825
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Posted - 2014.06.04 23:05:00 -
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Even though inviting you to some spot where you would get killed on the road in, about twenty times, then contracting you a can full of your corpses, would be funny, you're still missing my point.
1v1s are insignificant to the world of eve, one idiot and his sperging ego just can't be relevant to the game.
How do you not get that yet?
oh, right.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1156
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Posted - 2014.06.04 23:42:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Even though inviting you to some spot where you would get killed on the road in, about twenty times, then contracting you a can full of your corpses, would be funny, you're still missing my point.
1v1s are insignificant to the world of eve, one idiot and his sperging ego just can't be relevant to the game.
How do you not get that yet?
oh, right.
So that''s a no then?
It would not have been my first rodeo traveling through camped choke points, I'd say they would have a 50/50 shot. As for what is "relevant to the game" I am not judging game relevance by the RMT empires that dominate null sec. I have no interest in filling the real life wallets of a handful of individuals that know how to herd enough sheep together to fill up their paypal accounts. Have fun with tha btw.... I see game relevance as being a part of a much simpler criteria. ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME END HAVING FUN!
How you have not gotten that (and how you have missed the point of almost 30 pages of thread, half of which has been deleted) is beyond my comprehension.
Have fun killing rats in belts my friend... sorry you are missing out on the rest of EVE Online.
Short Version:
You are so utterly, malignantly and profoundly risk adverse... you could not even chance me flying all the way down to where you live and 1v1ing you in a cheep ship in your own home system.  srsly?
A more miraculous display of digital cowardice there has never been in EVE Online.
Have a nice day
Nullbear
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
826
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Posted - 2014.06.05 00:44:00 -
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I rest my case as far as sperging ego and crybaby goes.
Set desto to Arnon, crap up local with more walls of text like that GåæGåæGåæ
I guess it's a playstyle, sort of Kinder Eve.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1156
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Posted - 2014.06.05 00:55:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:I rest my case as far as sperging ego and crybaby goes.
Set desto to Arnon, crap up local with more walls of text like that GåæGåæGåæ
I guess it's a playstyle, sort of Kinder Eve.
If your in Arnorn... I'll be there with bells on. But I need the name of your main first.
If you change your mind, my EVE Mail is always open.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
828
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Posted - 2014.06.05 01:16:00 -
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Again, reading comprehension, for walls of text about how you are great : pick a hisec hub and act the fool. It's very common.
In null, every pvper worth their salt roams solo or in company to other people's sov to mess up their farmers.
A small contingent do home def fleets that range from 5 guys to 50 depending on circumstances. (Deployment, timezone)
Now i have seen quite a few solo pvpers who live in npc and strike out into sov systems in assault frigs, cruisers and battlecruisers to kill stragglers, ratters or explorers. They are usually total bros who gf, o7 and bring it.
You are not one of them.
Why not?
Also, this thread devolved into a joke a while ago, why isn't it locked and flushed?
Edit: risk adverse is not a thing, it's averse.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1156
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Posted - 2014.06.05 01:24:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Again, reading comprehension, for walls of text about how you are great : pick a hisec hub and act the fool. It's very common.
In null, every pvper worth their salt roams solo or in company to other people's sov to mess up their farmers.
A small contingent do home def fleets that range from 5 guys to 50 depending on circumstances. (Deployment, timezone)
Now i have seen quite a few solo pvpers who live in npc and strike out into sov systems in assault frigs, cruisers and battlecruisers to kill stragglers, ratters or explorers. They are usually total bros who gf, o7 and bring it.
You are not one of them.
Why not?
Also, this thread devolved into a joke a while ago, why isn't it locked and flushed?
Edit: risk adverse is not a thing, it's averse.
That is a great deal of commentary that is off topic Chopper.
The answer to "will you let me come out there and fight you in your home system" was no... And so there is nothing more to discuss between you and I. Feel free to find another thread.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2045
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Posted - 2014.06.05 01:25:00 -
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Wow, this is still a thing!
I'm sorry, but as you might have noticed I'm rather busy momentarily.
I haven't forgotten about you. (:
The case of the bottomless dress.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499 |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1156
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Posted - 2014.06.05 01:26:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Wow, this is still a thing!
I'm sorry, but as you might have noticed I'm rather busy momentarily.
I haven't forgotten about you. (:
Np i am looking forward to it :P
I am still in hek and after wards I will wander into low sec in search for that other guy.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
1791
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Posted - 2014.06.05 04:10:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Back on Topic:
I still have achieved only 1 fight so far, 4 days later... and that is very relevant to the topic of this OP. Where are the leet PVP'ers... !
They're in game fighting.
As one example that I hope is not deleted even though it's technically against the forum rules.
In the last 4 days, while you've been talking yourself up and everyone else down in the forum, here's a guy who's had more than 60 fights, with >70% of them 1v1:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Lijja+Cuu&page=1#kills
Chopper was just spot on in his earlier post when he suggested that perhaps people just don't want to give you their time. Nothing to do with risk aversion.
On top of that. Only a very small percentage of players visit the forum regularly. You aren't really communicating with very many people through this medium.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Garandras
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
186
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Posted - 2014.06.05 04:18:00 -
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I get PvP every day i log in..
Don't get why people find it so hard.. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1156
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Posted - 2014.06.05 11:51:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:
Stuff
I have not been talking myself up in the slightest. You must be thinking of some other thread that you were reading  I have repeatedly said that my killboard is nothing to write home and I have stated that people are afraid to fight me on fair terms even though I am not even that good.
Way to read a threads content buddy...
I also do not think it is viable to post the killboards of one or two extraordinary individuals in game, and try to compare it to what has happened here, in black and white, inside of this thread. I have been here for 5 days demonstrating EVE's no fight culture in black and white for all to see. People like you have been treating me like I have a killboard like Liija Cuu and I do not.
Thus far... only one single miner has accepted my hail for a fight fitting the term "fair roll of the dice" everyone else has weasled their way out of it, trolled their way out of it and rationalized why I cannot fly my ass down to their home system in null sec and fight their "awesome sauce x-lowsec pirate main" now residing in nullspace.
So your words and attempt to derail the intended purpose of this thread are hollow against the content contained within.
I am not here stating that I am awesome, I am here willing to lose every ship I fight with in a demonstration of how risk adverse the general EVE playerbase has become. And I don't mean carebears either, I mean nullbears and the self-proclaimed PVP elite.
I'd say nice try except... ya know... it wasn't.
Sorry
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1458
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Posted - 2014.06.05 13:09:00 -
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Mr. E, let's say two samurais meet at dawn to fight a duel. The rules are based on cultural honor traditions and the strict framework of the fight comes with its own set of challenges. Few samurai have survived a long string of duels (see Musashi), so we can guess that duelling is dangerous and challenging.
But duelling is not like fighting in a war. Anything can happen. People can come at you from anywhere. They may not even fight you. They may torture you, or kill you from the other side of the continent without ever picking up a rifle.
I think a lot of people who responded to you in thread are competent PVPers. I think what their objection might be is your characterization of "war" (which is EVE's free for all PVP) as cowardly. I think that if your mind is open to the idea that war is different from duelling.. then others will step up to interact with you on more positive terms.
The concern is that if you fight a duel and then conclude: "See? War is for cowards. Duelling is for awesome people."
p.s. I did enjoy our fight and would be happy to fight you in another ship like an Inty or another Dessie anytime. I personally have poor situational awareness, I forget things I've learned, and I'm not (yet) very successful at war.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
6768
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Posted - 2014.06.05 13:26:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Thus far... only one single miner has accepted my hail for a fight fitting the term "fair roll of the dice" everyone else has weasled their way out of it, trolled their way out of it and rationalized why I cannot fly my ass down to their home system in null sec and fight their "awesome sauce x-lowsec pirate main" now residing in nullspace.
For my part, and I imagine many others, that's because from your very first post you come across as a mouthy, sanctimonious little eHonor crusader.
And that's just not how I play the game. You were worth the time to correct on the forums, but I won't go out of my way to give you the structured, pre arranged fight you beg for, especially when you try to slap a bunch of restrictions on what I can or can't use to stack things in your favor yourself. (I still chuckle about you trying to say "no ECM drones!" by the way)
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1160
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:49:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
And that's just not how I play the game. You were worth the time to correct on the forums, but I won't go out of my way to give you the structured, pre arranged fight you beg for, especially when you try to slap a bunch of restrictions on what I can or can't use to stack things in your favor yourself. (I still chuckle about you trying to say "no ECM drones!" by the way)
I think that this is the second time that you have tried this angle "i don't have the time".
You have time to read these forums, you have had time to participate in this thread for the better part of the week... but you do not have time to outfit a Assault frigate and let me meet you in a prearranged location?
Allow me to call bullshit with a megaphone.
P.S.
Wanting to fight while fleeted is hardly "staking things in my favor". And ECM drones allow for a quick escape and this... nullfies your risk. There are tons of other EWAR drones to use. So bullshit.. with a megaphone.
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