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DHuncan
Minerva Group
55
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Posted - 2014.06.02 20:53:00 -
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We cannot play only PvP nor only PvE without players there is no EvE but without the environment neither. Escorts would be nothing but another type of weapon. An autonomus one but still anly a weapon. A step ahead on AI and galaxy population. Changes are comming and the conservative attitude is dummed to fail. I am ready for a fight in all aspects and the political one is not one I am going to deny.
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Vittorio en Divalone
Minerva Group
3
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Posted - 2014.06.02 22:08:00 -
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I liked the idea of the convoys also. As a matter of fact there is already simulated traders and convoys. This would be quite simple to work out.
3 tiers based on cargo cap:
TI 20k m3 50 chits per jump.
TII 40k m3 100 chits per jump.
TIII 80k m3 200 chits per jump.
Every 10k chits spent in same corp you get a permanent 10% reduction in prices to a max of 50%.
Just a service button in the station service window so you can choose the ship or ships you want to hire and the number of jumps you would need them. This would open a menu showing the systems -and submenu for stations- in that range. Once selected and confirmed the payment is done and chits are sustracted from player journal. tShips should show in ship hangar as a not driveable ship but would be ready to open, load and unload. Once ready ships will undock when master -who paid the bill- undocks himself. At this point there is not way back and convoy will start the journey as any other ship with AP, meaning they wont jump to a stargate but a few Kms before.
Speeds either for warping as for sub warp will be sgnificant slower than the normal ranges for capsuler ships symilar types as the amount of computers needed for the AI to operate the ships would take a lot of room. |
Astroniomix
Cryptic Meta-4
857
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Posted - 2014.06.03 01:46:00 -
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So what happens when players do what they already do, and just blow your sorry ass up in under ~15 seconds thereby leaving the NPCs no chance to defend you? |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
55
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:13:00 -
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Astroniomix wrote:So what happens when players do what they already do, and just blow your sorry ass up in under ~15 seconds thereby leaving the NPCs no chance to defend you?
Players do to me? I thought I was a player myself, ain't I? I can deal with defeat. That's one of the reasons I dont bend the head and join a tribe of bullies who cannot. If is a fair combat I don't have a problem in losing. Of course I rather win but I take things very sporty spirit. My sorry ass has being blown in many ways. Sometimes even cause the other dude was better than me, but most times I chase them away and then another batch comes and the first group heals. Sometimes I can destroy some of them but my fits are never for PvP as those encounters usually are not wanted or welcomed. So the options are joining with people I really don't like or lose. I am very slowly finding those guys who have something between their ears but I gave up long ago the idea of my gang being competitive. You just have to fly around and look at peoples bios, listen the local chats in most market hubs or just see the tendencies that the mass prefer: Griefing, ganking minners, bumping minners, showing of like high turkies in a barn, just look at the names that dont even start with a capital letter, the stetics in their toons, the rudeness in the posts here in forums.
So why don't I leave EvE if I am so unconfortable with my fellow companions of game? Because I know this game was made for me and not for the hordes of ******** who destroy for grief 10 Vs one and dare to have the arrogance of saying is because the poor dude was not prepared, don't understand the complications of the game and BS (does not stand for battleship this time) like that.
I just tried to melt your brain with so many words, I admit it.
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DHuncan
Minerva Group
55
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:19:00 -
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In the event the contractor dies the escort should continue fighting as they are autonomous as we already stated. But once more, this is my opinion and I could change it if I hear anything better.
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Astroniomix
Cryptic Meta-4
857
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Posted - 2014.06.03 02:20:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:
I just tried to melt your brain with so many words, I admit it.
It's not the quantity of the words you used, it's the order you placed them in. |
Doctor Nakajima
Minerva Group
9
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:15:00 -
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Hmm I see a lot of negativity here. Some quotations that are twisted or incomplete to misslead the point. I have seen two or three like this:
Ramona McCandless wrote:DHuncan wrote: I think we all agree You think incorrectly Please stop it with the "we all think this" type rants We don't all think anything the same way Also; hire some mercs if you are that scared of monsters under your bed
But the complete quotation should have been like this:
Quote:But I think we all agree that they dont need to be beter, nor have more skilled characters, nor being faster witted players not knowing the game deeper... they are only numericly superior... by far.
Dont we all agree that if you are far superior in number the skill or game knoledge doesn't mean much? I would like to know anyone who does not agree on that simple fact.
This is a blatant manipulation with purpose. But quo prodis?
I didnt hear the only sensitive rejection I could understand: "The resources are limited and this unusefull idea would waste server and computer valuable space." But nobody was worried about that. We still have an Incarna clone that moves in HQ 3D accomodations and takes much more memory and we have learned to live with it without more complaints.
Also somebody mention what I think is a key here. Something like "this would steal jobs from 'honest' players". But, wait a minute, if the idea is so stupid and unusefull, why would people use the service instead of the 'much better option'?
Another manipulation I sense is to accuse the OP to try to bend the universe to adapt his needs. Instead the manipulation would be -and already is- to prevent the natural develpoment of a scy-fi worl in order to adapt it to the 'game mechanics' that seem to produce so much beneficts for a part of the community but not to all the community. All New Eden promises is castrated for the sake of insisting it is not real, it is just a game and the game rules are far more important than thelaws of phisics, the logical development of humans in such a situation and a level of technology according to the kind that may travel faster than light.
The only reason for so many restrictions and so many nays is fear.
So I say YES, let's do this. Let's adapt game mechanics to New Eden and not New Eden to the game mechanics. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
621
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:48:00 -
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typical male, he's not satisfied with exotic dancers....
-á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
2861
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:51:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:
the reward we deserve.
Sounds to me like you've been reaping the rewards that you deserve and don't like it very much.
"i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1615
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Posted - 2014.06.04 02:23:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:
So why don't I leave EvE if I am so unconfortable with my fellow companions of game? Because I know this game was made for me and not for the hordes of ******** who destroy for grief 10 Vs one and dare to have the arrogance of saying is because the poor dude was not prepared, don't understand the complications of the game and BS (does not stand for battleship this time) like that.
u sure about that?
CCP advertise the game with the slogan 'Be the villain'. Eve is essentially mad max in space, it is in fact the gankers and pirates that are playing out the ethos of eve. scamming, piracy and theft is not just ok, its encouraged and brings the game publicity.
its not for the guy who likes to play alone, its for players who make friends. Its not for lazy players who refuse to learn, its for players who put the work in, adapt and prepare. By putting more effort in making friends, other players are able to call upon allies in a fight. and why shouldnt they when they've made that effort?
CCP continuously push the ideology of putting the work in urself, standing up for urself and relying on other players for support rather than NPC 's doing all that for u.
What kind of player do u consider urself and what made u think eve was designed for u?
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
57
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Posted - 2014.06.04 02:40:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:DHuncan wrote:
the reward we deserve.
Sounds to me like you've been reaping the rewards that you deserve and don't like it very much.
No, it is not that. Nottice I said 'we' and not 'me'. I am asking for a force proportional to the effort and dedication players -not just me(at the end yuo guys will get it)- put into their corporations.The same way others gather force by simply gathering players with the same views on life.
That's what I mean by 'we deserve'. If you preffer I may say 'for those who work for it and earn it'.
The only rewards I seek is to enjoy my New Eden experience my own way and not somebody else's way. I asume the risks as whitout risks there would be not that much experience BUT at a reasonable proportion.
When players -not the game's fault at all- seems so bored and so unable to find anything to do but to grief newbies -I am not such-, bumping minners, declaring wars that are more vendettas than war or 'easy pickings assuming confortably there is not honor in EvE -well I have honour and I am part of EvE-, and the miriad of situations we all -yes bitter mama, we all- witness every minute, then is time to give the chance to those who have spent their time and resources in expliring what has being offered to us.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1615
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Posted - 2014.06.04 03:34:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:
The only rewards I seek is to enjoy my New Eden experience my own way and not somebody else's way. I asume the risks as whitout risks there would be not that much experience BUT at a reasonable proportion.
u can play how u want, and other players can play how they want. But CCP has designed this game, very much deliberately, to allow other players to interact with u non-consensually. thats the point of the sandbox.
DHuncan wrote:
When players -not the game's fault at all- seems so bored and so unable to find anything to do but to grief newbies -I am not such-, bumping minners, declaring wars that are more vendettas than war or 'easy pickings assuming confortably there is not honor in EvE -well I have honour and I am part of EvE-, and the miriad of situations we all -yes bitter mama, we all- witness every minute, then is time to give the chance to those who have spent their time and resources in expliring what has being offered to us.
If u want to explore areas of the game without putting in the effort to make friends and defend urself, there is the test server
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Vincintius Agrippa
F L O O D
52
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Posted - 2014.06.04 04:30:00 -
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I don't see the problem with it. Of course there would be restrictions: cant take into fw complexes. I mean you could as some people suggested hire someone, but tis is eve, and in reality that someone or alliance will at a 90% rate, just take your isk and kill you just for laughs. I could see 3 classes of escorts, high sec rat class companion, clone soldier trainer class escort and last but not least duh duh duh duuuuuuuuh! Incursion rat class escort. All variable in ship class. Will be priced accordingly to fit tier and ship class. Imagine fighting some guy and his sansha vanguard ashimu pen pal. :)
Give the new Gila 25Mbits. Its bonus would only apply to either Heavy drones, or heavy and mediums. That way I can deploy a Super Fed Navy Ogre with the ehp of a cruiser. Not to mention have a -áfull flight of warriors. |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
57
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Posted - 2014.06.04 14:57:00 -
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Mr. Yamato,
I am not trying to stop other players to interact with me nor me being isolated and unable to interact with you. But I still want to keep my right to not let the flow to drag me to a play a style doesnt fit me. I dont see why players having an escort -being NPC or capsuleer- would neither stop other players to develop their style. This may force them to organize better, this may take away some unfair victories they dont deserve, but, oh well, they must be doing something wrong.
Why I say they dont deserve? Because if yur victory is only achieved because numerical superiority and if numbers balance you dont get them anymore, then we are playing here a social game of antisocial behavoir. The more we can gather together, the better we are, is the name of the game. Everything else goes to nothingness? The skills, the knodlege, the hours of experience? Who would really suport that destruction of such a craftmanship of a game? I tell you who: Them.
Mr. Agrippa,
I agree-pa with you one should not expect NPCs make to job for you. This would be called a bot, a macro or just cheationg. Anyone who have read the post should know at this point that has never being the intention of the idea. The NPCs are not ment to fight other NPCs in my plan. I am not discusing here if it would be legit or not. As far as I dream EvE everything should be subordinated to simulate realiti even dou is a fiction even dou it creates unfair situations. Anyway the escorts I am talking here are only wanted -imo- to ballance the unballanced against PvP encounters that exploit the numerical diferences and cowardly pick 'easy targets'. If this is the kind of game we want to develop... I'm out. If, instead, we want to keep exploring this historical -first time ever technology allowed us to do it- creation of a virtual universe, then join me and help me giving back to New Eden the features unrealistic 'game mechanics' are impeding.
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Astroniomix
Cryptic Meta-4
860
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:39:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:Mr. Yamato,
I am not trying to stop other players to interact with me nor me being isolated and unable to interact with you. But I still want to keep my right to not let the flow to drag me to a play a style doesnt fit me. I dont see why players having an escort -being NPC or capsuleer- would neither stop other players to develop their style. This may force them to organize better, this may take away some unfair victories they dont deserve, but, oh well, they must be doing something wrong.
Because you don't seem to understand the amount of stuff I could RUIN for other people using these things. |
Saisin
State War Academy
Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:53:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:...The more we can gather together, the better we are, is the name of the game...
I am calling it lemmingry 
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope
http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1615
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Posted - 2014.06.04 18:07:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:Mr. Yamato,
I am not trying to stop other players to interact with me nor me being isolated and unable to interact with you. But I still want to keep my right to not let the flow to drag me to a play a style doesnt fit me. I dont see why players having an escort -being NPC or capsuleer- would neither stop other players to develop their style. This may force them to organize better, this may take away some unfair victories they dont deserve, but, oh well, they must be doing something wrong.
Why I say they dont deserve? Because if yur victory is only achieved because numerical superiority and if numbers balance you dont get them anymore, then we are playing here a social game of antisocial behavoir. The more we can gather together, the better we are, is the name of the game. Everything else goes to nothingness? The skills, the knodlege, the hours of experience? Who would really suport that destruction of such a craftmanship of a game? I tell you who: Them.
getting that numerical superiority is work, yes they deserve that benefit.
skills still count, so does piloting ability. u just have to be good if u want to fight out gunned and still win.
solo players can and do take on gangs. so numbers count, but they arent everything.
what ur asking for is to have more power while still being crap at the game. And theres nothing that stops gangs flying with npc escorts and using them to outnumber u even more.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
59
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:15:00 -
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Astroniomix wrote:DHuncan wrote:Mr. Yamato,
I am not trying to stop other players to interact with me nor me being isolated and unable to interact with you. But I still want to keep my right to not let the flow to drag me to a play a style doesnt fit me. I dont see why players having an escort -being NPC or capsuleer- would neither stop other players to develop their style. This may force them to organize better, this may take away some unfair victories they dont deserve, but, oh well, they must be doing something wrong.
Because you don't seem to understand the amount of stuff I could RUIN for other people using these things.
Go ahead. But first gain the chits. Aha!
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DHuncan
Minerva Group
59
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:22:00 -
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I mean, really dudes, read the post before posting. I refuse to explain the same thing over and over.
Having numerical superiority is work? Deserves the power derived of such? Ok I dont ask to take any power from anyone. Why solo or small PvEs forced to PvP cannot also have a way to fight back ? Scared, bad boys? Whatcha gunna do wen we come for you?
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1615
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:24:00 -
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what stops u from fighting back even if ur a PvE player?
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
1369
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:27:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:Eve is essentially mad max in space
hmm...you have a point
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
59
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Posted - 2014.06.04 21:46:00 -
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My preferences. I rather be harvestiong planets, for example.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1615
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:18:00 -
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so u think u should be exempt from PvP combat just because u dnt want to do it?
and u think this game was made for u?
DHuncan wrote:
So why don't I leave EvE if I am so unconfortable with my fellow companions of game? Because I know this game was made for me
Have u seen the eve FAQ? my signature is taken from there.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
59
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:22:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:so u think u should be exempt from PvP combat just because u dnt want to do it? and u think this game was made for u? DHuncan wrote:
So why don't I leave EvE if I am so unconfortable with my fellow companions of game? Because I know this game was made for me
Have u seen the eve FAQ? my signature is taken from there.
Yes. And why you dont do planets? You suck at doing planets?
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1615
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Posted - 2014.06.04 23:28:00 -
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i do planets, mining, missioning, exploration, faction warfare, manufacturing, research and other activities, and i suck at them all.
Most of the PvP in this game is non-consensual. That's the type of game it is. Maybe it wasn't made for u after all. Maybe CCP made it the way they wanted, where:
- The most powerful NPC's in the game have, by design, a delayed response time.
- Ganking is very much ok
- Scamming is very much ok
- Theft is very much ok
- Bumping is very much ok
- Exploitation (of players, not mechanics) is very much ok
- Wardecs are very much ok.
- Players are meant to be attacking each other in all areas of the game in many different ways.
and this game then attracted the kind of player looking for this ethos, this survival of the fittest arena.
No, NPC's should not fight for players. Wealth does not balance a game, and everyone will just use their own armies of NPC's to create a lag fest fleet. Having NPC's affect a PvP system like war decs will almost definitely end with players complaining NPC's are getting in the way of their PvP. A bit like this.
And the last time a CCP employee hinted at pay2win being a possibility the jita protest happened.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
59
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Posted - 2014.06.05 01:35:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:i do planets, mining, missioning, exploration, faction warfare, manufacturing, research and other activities, and i suck at them all. Most of the PvP in this game is non-consensual. That's the type of game it is. Maybe it wasn't made for u after all. Maybe CCP made it the way they wanted, where: - The most powerful NPC's in the game have, by design, a delayed response time. - Ganking is very much ok - Scamming is very much ok - Theft is very much ok - Bumping is very much ok - Exploitation (of players, not mechanics) is very much ok - Wardecs are very much ok. - Players are meant to be attacking each other in all areas of the game in many different ways. and this game then attracted the kind of player looking for this ethos, this survival of the fittest arena. No, NPC's should not fight for players. Wealth does not balance a game, and everyone will just use their own armies of NPC's to create a lag fest fleet. Having NPC's affect a PvP system like war decs will almost definitely end with players complaining NPC's are getting in the way of their PvP. A bit like this. And the last time a CCP employee hinted at pay2win being a possibility the jita protest happened.
I have to agree with almost all you say. All those bumpings and gankings are very much ok because of there should be not a 'game computer restriction' that stops people to do what in reality could be done. This is a good rule. But why then in a universe of so advanced technology renting machines are unrealistically prevented by a very ooc 'game restriction'. Does make no sense and cuts the virtuallity into a 'this is a game with rules and all you see are pixels' sort of deal. The inmersion into New Eden breakes, the atempt to live in space and build your way is there no more. Hm, then may be true is not a game made for me after all.
Why you say NPCs should not fight for players? What is the reason for that? What makes the diference betwen what I am asking and your POS has defenses that work when you are off line?
This post has evolved since the first comment. Wealth would not be the way to pay for what we propose but chits -a new kind of LPs made for hiring these machines. Do you believe all those weekend gankers and can flyppers would pile many chits?
How would NPCM (M for mercs) make EvE a worse game?
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Malcolm Lionel
The Ascended Fleet
Intrepid Crossing
20
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Posted - 2014.06.05 02:23:00 -
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You should really find a good Corp. Players will escort you, often for free, if your even the least bit social. |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1616
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Posted - 2014.06.05 03:27:00 -
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Ppl will use them for attacking the players its meant to protect. whilst at the same time making lag even worse during large fleet fights. Basically in any situation where someone who has gone suspect should be vulnerable and, fairly, alone, he'll now have NPC pets as backers:
- if a frig warps into ur mission and steals ur mission objective, ur even more reluctant to shoot it because of his pets.
- Neut logi warps on grid during a war dec, ur even less likely to engage it because of his pets
and it most certainly will be used by gankers. Some gankers already use ISboxer, but this way they dnt need to pay for so many accounts, or they'll use both ISboxer and these to solo gank freighters. If u then say they only defend ppl who have been illegally attacked, then they also don't work during war decs, WH's or nullsec.
Beyond that i simply dislike the idea of NPC pets in eve. I like CCP's goals to make NPC's impact the game less and make everything more about the players.
Quote:But why then in a universe of so advanced technology renting machines are unrealistically prevented by a very ooc 'game restriction'. Does make no sense and cuts the virtuallity into a 'this is a game with rules and all you see are pixels' sort of deal. The inmersion into New Eden breakes, the atempt to live in space and build your way is there no more. Hm, then may be true is not a game made for me after all.
the advanced tech of AI controlled ships flying along side u is drones, and the drone capabilities of a ship is balanced to that ship. Domi's have powerful AI drones, but without them they are quite weak. Where as this idea suggests to me, u can always hire the most powerful pets no matter what ur flying. So an inty that can bring drone like pets with battleship damage?
Quote:
What makes the diference betwen what I am asking and your POS has defenses that work when you are off line?
A POS can be attacked while ur logged off, away on holiday. Ur ship cannot.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
59
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Posted - 2014.06.05 04:22:00 -
[149] - Quote
Thank you. I apreciate the opinions. I'll strike back with a new plan... eventually  .
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Ray Kyonhe
Ray's Relentless Research
Special Circumstances Alliance
35
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Posted - 2014.06.05 16:22:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided
Actually, it's a lie, there are such places. They are called stations.
Survey/voting system inbuilt to the game client:-álink |
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