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Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
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Posted - 2014.06.01 18:21:00 -
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The Rebels shouldn't have been able to win using Star Wars physics... Not sure why I should be sad that Eve physics don't support the nonsense that takes place in George Lucas' brain. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
510
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Posted - 2014.06.01 18:34:00 -
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The second Death Star would have been bumped out of the shield by the Executor. Which obviously would have negated the need to rely on DUST 514 players to shoot something other than a forum thread.
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Eli Hakomairos
Creeper Co. Forkoff
42
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Posted - 2014.06.01 18:49:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:The second Death Star would have been bumped out of the shield by the Executor. Which obviously would have negated the need to rely on DUST 514 players to shoot something other than a forum thread. Sheeit. have my +1 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.06.01 18:58:00 -
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Eli Hakomairos wrote:I personally never saw the empire as the bad guys. prior to the empire the galaxy was waging wars on multiple fronts, planets were starving, ect ect. the empire unifies them all, and despite their hunting of jedi they really never did anything that warranted a rebellion against them. The death star was a moon sized starbase, think of all the imperial soldiers stationed on it with their families, and the amount of jobs its construction must have brought to the economy. tl;dr Rebels are scumbags
#neverforget Everyone knows it was an inside job. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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stoicfaux
4915
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Posted - 2014.06.01 19:10:00 -
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You know that scene aboard the Millennium Falcon where Han and Luke were manning the quad laser turrets and shooting down[1] TIE fighters? Under EVE mechanics they would have run to the turrets, shift clicked to lock a target and then pressed F1. A bit less dramatic though.
[1] Yeah, yeah, there's no down in space.
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stoicfaux
4915
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Posted - 2014.06.01 19:12:00 -
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The Trade Federation alliance (from episodes I-III) would have been mass-banned for botting. Which would have eliminated the need for Episodes I, II, and III, thus making the world a better place.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
618
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Posted - 2014.06.01 19:24:00 -
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"you go rescue the princess I'll hold them off at this.. door." "how do I get to the princess...?" "easy she's being held on the other side of this door...." "hello, situation normal - were all fine here.. could you just bring the princess to the door please?" "she's outside.. just open the door and grab her.." "how do I open the door?" "use the force Luke" "I did" "what, a Jedi Mind blast?" "no, I kicked it" "I guess we have to wait for a future expansion to save the princess.." "...I'm going back to Tatooine."
-á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4679
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Posted - 2014.06.01 19:36:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:The Trade Federation alliance (from episodes I-III) would have been mass-banned for botting. Which would have eliminated the need for Episodes I, II, and III, thus making the world a better place.
I give you +1 for that is all the +s they let me give the best post in history of posts that have been posted "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Dominus Tempus
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
92
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Posted - 2014.06.01 19:39:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote: You're right!
EVE desperately needs a cute Mittanette... or maybe a sexy Gratha... though some may prefer a lively Jane 315.
This post is so full of bad. You should feel bad right now. |
stoicfaux
4917
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:09:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:"you go rescue the princess I'll hold them off at this.. door."
But they never would have gotten to the door in the first place. The Death Star caught the Millennium Falcon in a tractor beam and pulled it aboard. In EVE, tractor beams only work on ship wrecks and 'cans (despite all the comments about the Falcon being a hunk of junk, it was still a ship.)
Therefore, the Falcon would have been free to escape the Death Star, thus leaving Princess Leia to die at the hands of the Imperial Erotica1 torture-droid.
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
560
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:10:00 -
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An aside, maybe a real star wars geek can answer this, i never understood the 'bring balance to the force' thing. Because after Vader wiped out the jedi (minus 2) there would be balance, 2 sith, 2 jedi. But then yoda and obi wan die thus leaving luke, so vader changes sides and kills the emperor then dies, thus leaving 1 jedi, thus no balance...
So how exactly was 'balance' brought the force? 10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4681
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:13:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:An aside, maybe a real star wars geek can answer this, i never understood the 'bring balance to the force' thing. Because after Vader wiped out the jedi (minus 2) there would be balance, 2 sith, 2 jedi. But then yoda and obi wan die thus leaving luke, so vader changes sides and kills the emperor then dies, thus leaving 1 jedi, thus no balance...
So how exactly was 'balance' brought the force?
After Yoda and Obi Wan die there are still 2 "lightside" Force users/sensitives....
Luke and Leia "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4681
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:14:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote: the Falcon being a hunk of junk
Ah! So it was a Mammoth or cargo-fit Rupture! "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
stoicfaux
4917
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:22:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:An aside, maybe a real star wars geek can answer this, i never understood the 'bring balance to the force' thing. Because after Vader wiped out the jedi (minus 2) there would be balance, 2 sith, 2 jedi. But then yoda and obi wan die thus leaving luke, so vader changes sides and kills the emperor then dies, thus leaving 1 jedi, thus no balance...
So how exactly was 'balance' brought the force? Because "balance" didn't mean balance: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chosen_One
Quote:The prophecy of the Chosen One was an ancient Jedi legend that foretold the coming of a being who would restore balance to the Force. The idea of balance of the Force, a central tenet of the Jedi Order, referred to the ideal state in which the Force existed in nature, namely as the light side. According to Jedi dogma, the presence of the dark side corrupted and destroyed this natural balance, and the Jedi viewed it as their duty to restore it.
Basically, "balance" means making everything high-sec, i.e. the Jedi were Badass CareBears (not a contradiction in terms) and the Jedi Council would be the equivalent of an EVE CSM full of CareBears (and CCP Devs being influenced by WoW instead of Ultima Online.)
tl;dr - Chribba (with a lightsaber) would be the Mace Windu of EVE.
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stoicfaux
4917
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:24:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:stoicfaux wrote: the Falcon being a hunk of junk
Ah! So it was a Mammoth or cargo-fit Rupture! Sounds good. However, the Fenrir would be a land vehicle for use in Dust 514.
And we wouldn't call them Dusties, we would call them Jawas.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22322
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:24:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:An aside, maybe a real star wars geek can answer this, i never understood the 'bring balance to the force' thing. Because after Vader wiped out the jedi (minus 2) there would be balance, 2 sith, 2 jedi. But then yoda and obi wan die thus leaving luke, so vader changes sides and kills the emperor then dies, thus leaving 1 jedi, thus no balance...
So how exactly was 'balance' brought the force? The balance isn't between light side and dark side, but a degree of chaos. Light side is balance; dark side is chaos. It's a very absolutist viewGǪ
Then again, depending on how much expanded-universe stuff you want to consider, there's far more to the force and its supposed GÇ£balanceGÇ¥ than Jedi vs. Sith. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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stoicfaux
4919
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:30:00 -
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Oh fudge. Star Wars would have ended right after the opening battlescene. Remember when the C-3PO and R2-D2 (with the Death Star plans) hopped onto a life pod and ejected? And the Imperial gunner in charge of shooting life pods, said "no life signs. let it go?"
In EVE, the "no life signs" pod would have been podded regardless. End of movie. End of Star Wars. Cue the Imperial Blue Doughnut.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22323
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Posted - 2014.06.01 21:18:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Oh fudge. Star Wars would have ended right after the opening battlescene. Remember when the C-3PO and R2-D2 (with the Death Star plans) hopped onto a life pod and ejected? And the Imperial gunner in charge of shooting life pods, said "no life signs. let it go?"
In EVE, the "no life signs" pod would have been podded regardless. End of movie. End of Star Wars. Cue the Imperial Blue Doughnut.
edit: Actually, the more I think about it, a module that detects "life signs" doesn't exist in EVE because no one would think to build one in a galaxy populated with a "if it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway; it could be asleep" mentality.
The workaround is to put that scene in a "trailer" because EVE trailers don't have to adhere to EVE mechanics. To be fair, that scene should have ended the same in the Star Wars universe as well: an empire that makes extensive use of communications droids, assassination probes, and which was ostensibly founded as the result of fighting entire armies of robotsGǪ and they think that Gǣno life signsGǥ is in any way relevant for determining the value of a target?
And what's the problem of shooting it regardless? They're attacking a diplomatic vessel and will have to clean up the mess anyway to make the traces go away. What, are they charging lasers by the meter now? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1442
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:20:00 -
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Eli Hakomairos wrote:I personally never saw the empire as the bad guys. prior to the empire the galaxy was waging wars on multiple fronts, planets were starving, ect ect. the empire unifies them all, and despite their hunting of jedi they really never did anything that warranted a rebellion against them. The death star was a moon sized starbase, think of all the imperial soldiers stationed on it with their families, and the amount of jobs its construction must have brought to the economy. tl;dr Rebels are scumbags
#neverforget
Damn right, the rebels are just as immoral and unethical as the empire any day of the week. They have no problem squandering lives and partaking in mass killings. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1442
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:21:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Death Star would have been just one of hundreds which The Empire didn-¦t want anyway and already has replaced besides.
Instead the Rebels would have defeated The Empire by just having a spy join it who would have stolen all their stuff right before pressing a single button and disolving it.
We would have a monument floating where the death star used to be. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4691
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:22:00 -
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Tippia wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Oh fudge. Star Wars would have ended right after the opening battlescene. Remember when the C-3PO and R2-D2 (with the Death Star plans) hopped onto a life pod and ejected? And the Imperial gunner in charge of shooting life pods, said "no life signs. let it go?"
In EVE, the "no life signs" pod would have been podded regardless. End of movie. End of Star Wars. Cue the Imperial Blue Doughnut.
edit: Actually, the more I think about it, a module that detects "life signs" doesn't exist in EVE because no one would think to build one in a galaxy populated with a "if it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway; it could be asleep" mentality.
The workaround is to put that scene in a "trailer" because EVE trailers don't have to adhere to EVE mechanics. To be fair, that scene should have ended the same in the Star Wars universe as well: an empire that makes extensive use of communications droids, assassination probes, and which was ostensibly founded as the result of fighting entire armies of robotsGǪ and they think that Gǣno life signsGǥ is in any way relevant for determining the value of a target? And what's the problem of shooting it regardless? They're attacking a diplomatic vessel and will have to clean up the mess anyway to make the traces go away. What, are they charging lasers by the meter now?
George Lucas is a bad writer?!
SHURELY SHOME MISHTAKE "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
57
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:39:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Tippia wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Oh fudge. Star Wars would have ended right after the opening battlescene. Remember when the C-3PO and R2-D2 (with the Death Star plans) hopped onto a life pod and ejected? And the Imperial gunner in charge of shooting life pods, said "no life signs. let it go?"
In EVE, the "no life signs" pod would have been podded regardless. End of movie. End of Star Wars. Cue the Imperial Blue Doughnut.
edit: Actually, the more I think about it, a module that detects "life signs" doesn't exist in EVE because no one would think to build one in a galaxy populated with a "if it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway; it could be asleep" mentality.
The workaround is to put that scene in a "trailer" because EVE trailers don't have to adhere to EVE mechanics. To be fair, that scene should have ended the same in the Star Wars universe as well: an empire that makes extensive use of communications droids, assassination probes, and which was ostensibly founded as the result of fighting entire armies of robotsGǪ and they think that Gǣno life signsGǥ is in any way relevant for determining the value of a target? And what's the problem of shooting it regardless? They're attacking a diplomatic vessel and will have to clean up the mess anyway to make the traces go away. What, are they charging lasers by the meter now? George Lucas is a bad writer?! SHURELY SHOME MISHTAKE
I already knew this but this thread has made me realize he is worse than I had thought. Too bad he didn't let his buddy John Milius rewrite it before he shot the movie. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4692
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:42:00 -
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Harrison Tato wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: George Lucas is a bad writer?!
SHURELY SHOME MISHTAKE
I already knew this but this thread has made me realize he is worse than I had thought. Too bad he didn't let his buddy John Milius rewrite it before he shot the movie.
This is why science has proved Empire is the best Star Wars. He had so little to do with it, its pretty much flawless.
Apart from the space worm
That MUST have been his idea lol "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:43:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:... do you think the Rebel Alliance would have stood a chance?
If your answer is "Hell, no!!!" isn't that kind of sad? Well, if that were the case, I guess not only would Han have shot first, but second, third and fourth just to make sure. Then Han would have looted Greddo, drug his dead corpse out into the street and tied him up to a light post. After burning the corpse there, he would have went to Greedo's POS, blowed it up, looted it and claimed SOV for himself. Then Han would have come to forums and totally bragged about it in which Greddo would be so severally humiliated he would have just ragequit Star Wars and went on back to do his dailies with his night elf mohawk. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:58:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Kinis Deren wrote:... do you think the Rebel Alliance would have stood a chance?
If your answer is "Hell, no!!!" isn't that kind of sad? Well, if that were the case, I guess not only would Han have shot first, but second, third and fourth just to make sure. Then Han would have looted Greddo, drug his dead corpse out into the street and tied him up to a light post. After burning the corpse there, he would have went to Greedo's POS, blowed it up, looted it and claimed SOV for himself. Then Han would have come to forums and totally bragged about it in which Greddo would be so severally humiliated he would have just ragequit Star Wars and went on back to do his dailies with his night elf mohawk. Yes, but... given the EVE bounty mechanics, do you really think Greedo would have bothered being a Bounty Hunter?
I'm thinking that Greedo/Bobba Fett, et. al., would have instead been professional "Spai!"s in our hypothetical EVE Wars universe.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4693
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Posted - 2014.06.02 01:00:00 -
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Han Solo didnt "shoot first"
You cannot shoot first when there is one shot
He instalocked and oneshot popped Greedo's ass
"A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "(Understanding when to fight and when not to) doesn't make the cautious pilot a care bear.... it makes him a winner." - Barbara Nichole |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
513
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Posted - 2014.06.02 01:44:00 -
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Vader AWOXing Palpatine was predictably implausible.
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Komi Toran
Perkone Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2014.06.02 01:50:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Oh fudge. Star Wars would have ended right after the opening battlescene. Remember when the C-3PO and R2-D2 (with the Death Star plans) hopped onto a life pod and ejected? And the Imperial gunner in charge of shooting life pods, said "no life signs. let it go?"
In EVE, the "no life signs" pod would have been podded regardless. End of movie. End of Star Wars. Cue the Imperial Blue Doughnut. Wrong.
The droids would have set their clones to the med bays on Yavin. The Empire would have popped them, and the plans for the Death Star would have been instantly transmitted. That's why they didn't just blow the cruiser up or blow up the pod.
Wait... that means swapping the SW universe with the EVE universe makes the movie more plausible. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
6753
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Posted - 2014.06.02 02:00:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Han Solo didnt "shoot first"
You cannot shoot first when there is one shot
He instalocked and oneshot popped Greedo's ass
yes yes I have pointed that out in these forums a number of times, even use an imgur. But in this case, Han shot first, second, third and fourth. So since there is technically more than one shot, there is a fist shot in this case.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22325
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Posted - 2014.06.02 02:02:00 -
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Komi Toran wrote:Wrong.
The droids would have set their clones to the med bays on Yavin. The Empire would have popped them, and the plans for the Death Star would have been instantly transmitted. That's why they didn't just blow the cruiser up or blow up the pod.
Wait... that means swapping the SW universe with the EVE universe makes the movie more plausible. Yes. At least assuming that droids have clones and that that those clones include optical media. However, it rather puts into question why the rebels didn't just strap a thermal detonator on R2 and punted him out an airlock. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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