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Kyeph
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Posted - 2006.06.08 11:07:00 -
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I think that there is a great potential to have a war similar to that of the GNW.
But recently there has been imho a Mahoosive lack of real politics.
back when all this started you had Jade Constantine laying down the "i art more holier than thou" speaches in his usual well written format, we then had various other corps with their PR spokesmen (Jhered Stearn worship your emporer posts) who would constantly for months sling crap at each other with accusations counter accusations, spies infiltrating channels, forums, plenty of back stabbing and false fronts.
then finally with abit of false fed information and big assed wooden spoon, everything kicked off and GNW was the event to be in.
Think what may help would be more Super Powers, like CA FA SA VA/NVA/TPA etc used to be, when they held multi regions and many a corp flying under the tag, massive industrial engines with fleets of ships to spare, big juicey targets for the nomadic pirate corps to target.
Looking at the alliance map now, its all splintered and broken down, everyones looking after their own.
perhaps if all these mini alliances join under a tag and threaten to be a monstrosity then political upheavel and power mongering can begin again.
who knows.
Lord Guerdo
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2006.06.08 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Dao 2 on 08/06/2006 11:18:00 i learned that crokite is good ;p
just about started the game at that point and was solo mining in ec-p8r :D ;p
edit: i think thats about right, or i wasnt yet ingame by then. ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p)
the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that
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fisty
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Posted - 2006.06.08 11:36:00 -
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AH GNW and times before....those were the times.. GNW brilliant and sucked...so much emotions in that war atleast on my part...euphoria and than morale sinking beyond low...so many thinks so many thinks learnt the prime thing was
P O L I T I C S S U C K S
was great experience positive and negative
even though we lost "PA" was still great...as its GNW what else could it be? :D
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WETRAIN
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Posted - 2006.06.08 11:37:00 -
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well one thing the GNW tought me is that ... show your enemy you are Better then the team you are in and they`l join you .. i can name a few ppl that joined BoB from PA after GNW .
And i remember trembling in my 1st scorp in 6nj fighting Rod B. in his megatron ... thats before they knerfed the jammers ... 1st encounter .. he had wcs ... i jammed he ran .. 2nd encounter on y-4cfk gate .. he had backups i had more wcs :))) i still can remember that ... the fear of loosing the 1st bs IS BIG, well i had a different nick and main char back then maybe you can remember Rod .. i was unforg1ven :P a romanian renegade 
- Dont Get Attached to anything you cant get rid off in less then 30 seconds when you sense the heat coming around the corner - |

Death Merchant
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Posted - 2006.06.08 12:32:00 -
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The GNW was like being in the military. While your in it, you cant wait to get out. The longer your out, the more you dwell on the fun times than the bad.
Good = Fights everywhere. From Branch to Fade to Germinate, skirmishes, fleet battles, gank squads. Learning(sometimes from getting your arsed kicked) new fleet and skirmish techniques. Being in the trenches with your friends. A real sense of loss that you dont experience today. It used to hurt losing a BS. No alliances so that individual corps could be focused on in empire via war decs.
Bad= COD/NSA politics. (how to be manipulated 101) Council meetings. (4 hours of not making any meaninful decisions) No log off timers, no probes, and logging on/off dual MWD ravens.(I still hate LLebring ) Backstabbing and backdoor deal making of epic proportions from people you thought were friends.
Youll never get the same level of participation again. Sure today there are wars with bigger numbers but as far as percentage wise almost 80% of active player bases were in 0.0., another 10% were empire mining for the war effort.
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Auntie Bob
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Posted - 2006.06.08 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rohann Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 06:19:18 For those of you involved in GNW I would like to know how that changed/shaped you or your corp's EVE career today. Or if that experience taught you anything.
GNW taught me one thing that I can remember, no matter how many rifters you lose dialup still sucks. It also taught me that ppl lie, cheat, steal and ebay. /emote wanders off to find that ts footage
The only "Great War" was SA vs CA this was also the point evol losts its identity when BOB was formed. This was also the same time BoB lost all credibility due to the relentless forum whoring, spreading lies and propoganda, (which continues to this day). The GNW consisted of minor skirmishes at best, certainly nothing on the same scale as SA vs CA.
Thats whats GNW taught me BoB are smacktards and not the force they think they are.
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Rohann
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Posted - 2006.06.08 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 06:19:18 For those of you involved in GNW I would like to know how that changed/shaped you or your corp's EVE career today. Or if that experience taught you anything.
GNW taught me one thing that I can remember, no matter how many rifters you lose dialup still sucks. It also taught me that ppl lie, cheat, steal and ebay. /emote wanders off to find that ts footage
The only "Great War" was SA vs CA this was also the point evol losts its identity when BOB was formed. This was also the same time BoB lost all credibility due to the relentless forum whoring, spreading lies and propoganda, (which continues to this day). The GNW consisted of minor skirmishes at best, certainly nothing on the same scale as SA vs CA.
Thats whats GNW taught me BoB are smacktards and not the force they think they are.
Bitter much?
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Auntie Bob
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Posted - 2006.06.08 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rohann
Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 06:19:18 For those of you involved in GNW I would like to know how that changed/shaped you or your corp's EVE career today. Or if that experience taught you anything.
GNW taught me one thing that I can remember, no matter how many rifters you lose dialup still sucks. It also taught me that ppl lie, cheat, steal and ebay. /emote wanders off to find that ts footage
The only "Great War" was SA vs CA this was also the point evol losts its identity when BOB was formed. This was also the same time BoB lost all credibility due to the relentless forum whoring, spreading lies and propoganda, (which continues to this day). The GNW consisted of minor skirmishes at best, certainly nothing on the same scale as SA vs CA.
Thats whats GNW taught me BoB are smacktards and not the force they think they are.
Bitter much?
Why should I be bitter? Your the one that always smacks local as soon as you enter, you seem to have the issue not me 
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Rohann
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Posted - 2006.06.08 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 13:04:31
Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann
Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 06:19:18 For those of you involved in GNW I would like to know how that changed/shaped you or your corp's EVE career today. Or if that experience taught you anything.
GNW taught me one thing that I can remember, no matter how many rifters you lose dialup still sucks. It also taught me that ppl lie, cheat, steal and ebay. /emote wanders off to find that ts footage
The only "Great War" was SA vs CA this was also the point evol losts its identity when BOB was formed. This was also the same time BoB lost all credibility due to the relentless forum whoring, spreading lies and propoganda, (which continues to this day). The GNW consisted of minor skirmishes at best, certainly nothing on the same scale as SA vs CA.
Thats whats GNW taught me BoB are smacktards and not the force they think they are.
Bitter much?
Why should I be bitter? Your the one that always smacks local as soon as you enter, you seem to have the issue not me 
Bitter and a coward WOW NOT A COMBO IVE EVER SEEN ON THIS FORUM BEFORE. And how does me smacking local have anything to do with GNW? Post with your main.
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Auntie Bob
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Posted - 2006.06.08 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rohann
Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann
Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 06:19:18 For those of you involved in GNW I would like to know how that changed/shaped you or your corp's EVE career today. Or if that experience taught you anything.
GNW taught me one thing that I can remember, no matter how many rifters you lose dialup still sucks. It also taught me that ppl lie, cheat, steal and ebay. /emote wanders off to find that ts footage
The only "Great War" was SA vs CA this was also the point evol losts its identity when BOB was formed. This was also the same time BoB lost all credibility due to the relentless forum whoring, spreading lies and propoganda, (which continues to this day). The GNW consisted of minor skirmishes at best, certainly nothing on the same scale as SA vs CA.
Thats whats GNW taught me BoB are smacktards and not the force they think they are.
Bitter much?
Why should I be bitter? Your the one that always smacks local as soon as you enter, you seem to have the issue not me 
Bitter and a coward WOW NOT A COMBO IVE EVER SEEN ON THIS FORUM BEFORE.
Im answering your thread, Why should I be bitter??
And coward - if it makes you happy
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.06.08 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 06:19:18 For those of you involved in GNW I would like to know how that changed/shaped you or your corp's EVE career today. Or if that experience taught you anything.
GNW taught me one thing that I can remember, no matter how many rifters you lose dialup still sucks. It also taught me that ppl lie, cheat, steal and ebay. /emote wanders off to find that ts footage
The only "Great War" was SA vs CA this was also the point evol losts its identity when BOB was formed. This was also the same time BoB lost all credibility due to the relentless forum whoring, spreading lies and propoganda, (which continues to this day). The GNW consisted of minor skirmishes at best, certainly nothing on the same scale as SA vs CA.
Well, having been in both for a good while, I have to disagree. While the CA v SA conflict was a ****load of fun, and good for fleetifghts as regular as clockwork during it's busier period, it always was war for 'play'. The only real pressure put on and held on was done in southern stain space by C4 in the middle stages of the whole thing. But the rest of it was relatively innocent, if you look past the hundreds of dead ships on both sides.
Always during the whole thing both sides would be able to mine and npc next to unhindered by eachother.
The GNW on the other hand was a war for keeps. Gloves off and full pressure on constantly. For me that made it alot more enjoyable, but I guess one could see that differently.
As for the rest fo your post, there's no need for me to reply to that.
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Lamb Chop
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Posted - 2006.06.08 13:51:00 -
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It tought me, Scorpions die first and fast. Mind you, we still had the shield bonus at that time...
In general it tought me how to fight.
And I agree DB and sweaty, there has never been anything like this in eve ever since.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.06.08 14:03:00 -
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It taught me that friends can soon become enemies, but sometimes being enemies doesn't make them any less of a friend.
Fear the Ibis of doom! |

Znaei
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Posted - 2006.06.08 14:19:00 -
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The first thing that came to mind was "God I hate dura-mallers".
Inappropriate sig content - and where did you find my pic? - Cathath ([email protected]) |

Kyeph
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Posted - 2006.06.08 15:05:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 06:19:18 For those of you involved in GNW I would like to know how that changed/shaped you or your corp's EVE career today. Or if that experience taught you anything.
GNW taught me one thing that I can remember, no matter how many rifters you lose dialup still sucks. It also taught me that ppl lie, cheat, steal and ebay. /emote wanders off to find that ts footage
The only "Great War" was SA vs CA this was also the point evol losts its identity when BOB was formed. This was also the same time BoB lost all credibility due to the relentless forum whoring, spreading lies and propoganda, (which continues to this day). The GNW consisted of minor skirmishes at best, certainly nothing on the same scale as SA vs CA.
Thats whats GNW taught me BoB are smacktards and not the force they think they are.
looks like someone got podded by Evol and is hurting.
there there little alt troll all will be ok, heres a cookie, there you go....now all you need to do is reach behind your PC and pull that cable out thats attached to your keyboard......there we are all better now
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.06.08 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/06/2006 15:13:36
Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 06:19:18 For those of you involved in GNW I would like to know how that changed/shaped you or your corp's EVE career today. Or if that experience taught you anything.
GNW taught me one thing that I can remember, no matter how many rifters you lose dialup still sucks. It also taught me that ppl lie, cheat, steal and ebay. /emote wanders off to find that ts footage
The only "Great War" was SA vs CA this was also the point evol losts its identity when BOB was formed. This was also the same time BoB lost all credibility due to the relentless forum whoring, spreading lies and propoganda, (which continues to this day). The GNW consisted of minor skirmishes at best, certainly nothing on the same scale as SA vs CA.
Thats whats GNW taught me BoB are smacktards and not the force they think they are.
Go away aneu, this isn't a thread for children.
Only participants of the GNW and they are all men.
Would love to hear more from other peeps in the GNW. (edit: i've just been informed there were infact some women there too.... sorry kryztal :P)
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Death Merchant
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Posted - 2006.06.08 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Znaei The first thing that came to mind was "God I hate dura-mallers".
QFT Signature removed - File size too large.Laurelin |

Kyeph
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Posted - 2006.06.08 15:15:00 -
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I agree with what Rod says about the feel of the war.
it was an all out seething battle ground where the pure driving force behind it was to totally and compeletly annhiliate the opposing force, no merci will be shown.
awesome
Lord Guerdo
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Auntie Bob
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Posted - 2006.06.08 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/06/2006 15:13:36
Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 06:19:18 For those of you involved in GNW I would like to know how that changed/shaped you or your corp's EVE career today. Or if that experience taught you anything.
GNW taught me one thing that I can remember, no matter how many rifters you lose dialup still sucks. It also taught me that ppl lie, cheat, steal and ebay. /emote wanders off to find that ts footage
The only "Great War" was SA vs CA this was also the point evol losts its identity when BOB was formed. This was also the same time BoB lost all credibility due to the relentless forum whoring, spreading lies and propoganda, (which continues to this day). The GNW consisted of minor skirmishes at best, certainly nothing on the same scale as SA vs CA.
Thats whats GNW taught me BoB are smacktards and not the force they think they are.
Go away aneu, this isn't a thread for children.
Only participants of the GNW and they are all men.
Would love to hear more from other peeps in the GNW. (edit: i've just been informed there were infact some women there too.... sorry kryztal :P)
dbp
lol post with your main you mission running numpty 
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Auntie Bob
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Posted - 2006.06.08 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kyeph
Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 06:19:18 For those of you involved in GNW I would like to know how that changed/shaped you or your corp's EVE career today. Or if that experience taught you anything.
GNW taught me one thing that I can remember, no matter how many rifters you lose dialup still sucks. It also taught me that ppl lie, cheat, steal and ebay. /emote wanders off to find that ts footage
The only "Great War" was SA vs CA this was also the point evol losts its identity when BOB was formed. This was also the same time BoB lost all credibility due to the relentless forum whoring, spreading lies and propoganda, (which continues to this day). The GNW consisted of minor skirmishes at best, certainly nothing on the same scale as SA vs CA.
Thats whats GNW taught me BoB are smacktards and not the force they think they are.
looks like someone got podded by Evol and is hurting.
there there little alt troll all will be ok, heres a cookie, there you go....now all you need to do is reach behind your PC and pull that cable out thats attached to your keyboard......there we are all better now
Post with your main 
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Turkantho
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Posted - 2006.06.08 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Turkantho on 08/06/2006 15:41:26 GNW taught me how to be blown up in a Vigil or Incursus with style  ________
Asgar[D]¦ welcomes the dawn |

Kamel
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Posted - 2006.06.08 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Death Merchant Fights everywhere. From Branch to Fade to Germinate, skirmishes, fleet battles, gank squads. Learning(sometimes from getting your arsed kicked) new fleet and skirmish techniques. Being in the trenches with your friends. A real sense of loss that you dont experience today. It used to hurt losing a BS. No alliances so that individual corps could be focused on in empire via war decs.
Agreed with all that, GNW above of all i think it was one of the longest conflicts lived in eve it should be lasted aroun 8 month if im not mistaken.
Also eve was a diferent game than we know it now today, many things changed and i dont think we will see again a conflict like that.
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Kyeph
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Posted - 2006.06.08 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Kyeph
Originally by: Auntie Bob
Originally by: Rohann Edited by: Rohann on 08/06/2006 06:19:18 For those of you involved in GNW I would like to know how that changed/shaped you or your corp's EVE career today. Or if that experience taught you anything.
GNW taught me one thing that I can remember, no matter how many rifters you lose dialup still sucks. It also taught me that ppl lie, cheat, steal and ebay. /emote wanders off to find that ts footage
The only "Great War" was SA vs CA this was also the point evol losts its identity when BOB was formed. This was also the same time BoB lost all credibility due to the relentless forum whoring, spreading lies and propoganda, (which continues to this day). The GNW consisted of minor skirmishes at best, certainly nothing on the same scale as SA vs CA.
Thats whats GNW taught me BoB are smacktards and not the force they think they are.
looks like someone got podded by Evol and is hurting.
there there little alt troll all will be ok, heres a cookie, there you go....now all you need to do is reach behind your PC and pull that cable out thats attached to your keyboard......there we are all better now
Post with your main 
Read the thread nubby my main is perma banned so i cant
my main though is Lord Guerdo
a fact i have posted on the bottom on a couple of my posts
thanks
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Manus Ghostface
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Posted - 2006.06.08 16:13:00 -
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Missing the GNW because I was off in lala land killing dorfs and elves taught me I'm an idiot.
That city is well fortified which has a wall of men instead of brick. - Lycurgus |

christoforos
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Posted - 2006.06.08 16:25:00 -
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GNW tought me everything. It was tough finding yourself in a war against top pvpers, after just finishing your BS skill at lvl 1 and jumping for the first time in 0.0 space but the experience cannot be replaced. I could say it was fun and all but I think it would be an insult for the GNW itself. It wasn't fun. It was a full scale war filled with, at least in-game, hatred. The videos from both sides and especially those from Leafo and Lleebring (sp?) were excellent examples of war-time propaganga (in a good sense). It's something I miss from those times. Some videos focusing on the storyline and not just fights. It was the experience that got me stuck in EVE and what makes EVE more than "just a game". I am more relaxed nowdays, because I know that propably nothing would approach GNW so much at simulating a real war.
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2006.06.08 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Kronarty on 08/06/2006 16:47:14 For me the GNW was the biggest and last war fought over the things that truly matter, in game or out of game. During this war people TRULY fought for their beliefs/freedom/pride and not because they were "bored" (we see too much of this now). I am talking about the main players of the war, not the various bandwagoners (even if some of those were later absorbed into the maelstrom of loves and hates).
I stress the importance of the reasons wars are fought because, believe it or not, fighting a war for things you believe in is 100x more intense and satisfying than fighting for the sake of it.
This was also a total war, involving not only ingame fighting but out of game propaganda, character assassination, spying and everything that could be done to affect the ingame outcome. I highly doubt any other conflict in this game has had this wide scope for as long as GNW lasted.
Looking back, I may have been overly passionate about some stuff during GNW, still unsure if that is good or bad :), but what I can't deny is that it was the period when the game was AND felt more alive for me. I am proud of how my corporation held together during such a hard time and I think everyone that was in PA or CCCP/BoB/NCA during GNW should be proud of having taken part in such an epic struggle.
In some ways I think that makes everyone involved (no matter the side) share a bond stronger than what separated us during the conflict.
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2006.06.08 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 08/06/2006 16:52:02 Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 08/06/2006 16:51:32
Originally by: Lorth
The GWN was when the gank fitting was made.
Gank fitting? What you mean?
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McGin
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Posted - 2006.06.08 16:59:00 -
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hey fellas any 1 have some good fraps from the GNW i can watch 
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Alessia Karan
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Posted - 2006.06.08 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 08/06/2006 16:52:02 Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 08/06/2006 16:51:32
Originally by: Lorth
The GWN was when the gank fitting was made.
Gank fitting? What you mean?
The gankageddon setup, 7x megapulse, 2x tracking comp, mwd, 8x heat sink. That setup ruled all because at the time megapulses were quite overpowered, there was less stacking penalty on damage mods, and because of the rof bonus of the geddon. It was later adopted to other ships but not quite with the same devastating effect 
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Eversor
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Posted - 2006.06.08 17:12:00 -
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I learned that reading Machiavelli's The Prince and a few other books on RL Strategy can come in handy.
I also learned that some people do take the game a little too seriously.
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