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Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 19	Posted - 2014.06.02 02:55:00 - [1] - Quote Its pretty much accepted that the Syndicate LP store has nothing desirable in it that makes running missions for the Syndicate faction desirable over running level 4's or 5's for literally any other Gallente faction. However the fact that the deployable faction bubbles are available from the Syndicate LP leads to a reasonable addition that would add a great deal of value to it. I believe faction warp disrupt probes and faction Warp Disruption Field Generator modules would be popular additions to EVE that would also inject some much needed content generation into Syndicate. The bonus to the warp disrupt probes could be something small such as a 5km bonus added to its warp disrupt range and a touch more EHP, making them slightly more desirable to people tackling capitals and the like by making them more resistant to smartbombing. The Warp Disruption Field Generator would be harder to nail down since giving it a bubble larger than T2 would be somewhat absurd due to the already massive size of the bubble generated by the T2 module. However things like improved cap use and reduced fitting would make the extremely useful for fits where you have more than one WDFG allowing you to have a working fit without completely gimping it. Feel free to comment or contribute ideas as you see fit.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 32	Posted - 2014.06.08 23:47:00 - [2] - Quote Rivr Luzade wrote: Well paying L4 empire faction NPC corps? The problem with empire faction L4's in places like syndicate is that you take a much, much higher risk for a very small increase in reward. You receive a small bump in the mission rewards, but overall it doesn't represent an increase in income compared to the larger risks taken. At the moment, the best way to have people make isk is to have them probing down DED 7/10's, 8/10's and 10/10's (6/10's and 9/10s do not exist for the serpentis faction) and handing them off to the older players to run while they supplement it with relic and data sites. However this absolutely pales in comparison to what someone makes in highsec doing incursions or exploration, in lowsec farming security tags and mordus rats or level 5's or in Sov Null due to the ability to spawn plenty of anoms in a single system. While NPC Null could use something to make it more unique space (Just not conquerable stations. That idea was terrible and would kill NPC Null even faster), this would be an excellent band-aid to the syndicate region. Syndicate and the surrounding lowsec has been the birthplace for quite a few noticeable PVP entities, but it could use a bit of help to get it back into shape.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 47	Posted - 2014.06.14 00:27:00 - [3] - Quote Sadly, I don't think a major change to NPC null will happen until we see something happening to sov mechanics since the space is just way too useful as a staging area at present. However there is a chance that the anime technique will work in this case. Apply enough bandaids and everything is fixed!
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 51	Posted - 2014.06.15 08:37:00 - [4] - Quote Sadly, they would still be inferior to normal sets. Edge still only works when you are chugging boosters, snakes/slaves/nomads/etc will always provide their bonuses and without the constant cost of operating you'd get from constantly chugging boosters. Edit: Edge implants would also wind up only being useful in low and null, and then really only desireable in a few select applications like a triage archon popping mindflood and exile. The only way it could truely beat any current set is combining blue pill with those modified edge implants on a shield boosting capital.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 56	Posted - 2014.06.25 10:46:00 - [5] - Quote I think its time for some fun facts about Syndicate! Of the 64 teams competing in the alliance tournament, over 12% of them are or have been long term syndicate residents! You can find corps and alliances who first dipped their feet into the world of nullsec by moving to syndicate in both major sov blocks! In fact, Syndicate has played home to several notable groups such as Agony Empire, Huzzah Federation, Rote Kapelle, Goonswarm, Flying Dangerous and many others! There are 2 systems in all of syndicate with the chance of an officer spawn. However the chance is absolutely abysmal, with some people putting it as low as a 1 in 10,000 chance. Poitot actually is the only named system in Syndicate and this fact being mentioned loudly and repeatedly every time your fleet passes through poitot is part of the story behind the in game item "A postcard from Poitot". Does your region have an item made out of one of its terrible in-jokes? Yeah, thought not. Edit: This is a reminder to me for the next time I post, I need to tell the story of when CCP Decided to do a sansha style incursion into Syndicate. (Here is a hint, lots of spaceships exploded.)
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 66	Posted - 2014.07.04 11:42:00 - [6] - Quote Terrible Goon Spy wrote: Wtf elemnt why you posting on eve-o, outside that NPC null is terrible and doing anything to make it a little less terrible is a good thing. +1 Because I hate myself.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 66	Posted - 2014.07.05 11:33:00 - [7] - Quote Joshua Foiritain wrote: Front page time Take note CCP, when two groups who generally dislike each other (Clockwork and Ineluctable in this case) can agree on something so readily, its important. Its just nobody cares about us because we live in syndicate. Because nobody cares about syndicate, because nobody lives in syndicate anymore. There is actually a pretty good feedback loop that starts there. Nobody lives in syndicate because there is nothing valuable in it. If there is nothing valuable in it, nobody really cares about it. And if nobody really cares about it, people don't live there. And if you don't have people living there, nobody is around to complain that **** is broken. We know NPC Null isn't sexy and doesn't make up a large portion of the game's player base, but it is still an amazingly important region. This is still one of the places alliances go to get their feet wet in the nullsec arena. Except now they just implode from a lack of content and their membership realizing that they can make more isk out in highsec than they can in places like syndicate. Hell, Brave found out their members could make more isk ratting belts in lowsec than they could in syndicate during a brief relocation. And this was before all the additional content that was added to lowsec.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 66	Posted - 2014.07.05 12:32:00 - [8] - Quote Bastion went on approximately a one month deployment to syndicate to try to get some low impact fights that they could use for training their FCs. Over the course of a month, they've mostly shot structures and had only a few notable fights, mostly due to their desire to do sov warfare type things which don't really work well in syndicate. As for goonswarm, their presence is generally limited to one of two groups. Either you have the members of space violence, which was originally based around Suas's corp (Black Omega Security) who were long time syndicate residents before joining goonswarm or you have the members of goonswarm who are also members of Clockwork Pineapple. In both cases, the goonswarm members tend to behave much more like syndicate residents than the visiting CFC members do. Many of these members would be all too pleased if they could live in syndicate, only deploying when they want or need to. In fact, most if not all of the goonswarm members who have posted support in this thread are in fact SV members. NPC Nullsec will always be important as a possible staging area for various Sov Empires, but the content of the region makes very little difference to them outside of whatever valuable moons are in the area and how many stations are available with good docking radiuses and cloning facilities. This suggestion isn't for them, its for the groups that live in one of these regions. The one that has traditionally taught people about the mechanics of their new home and how to live in it. One that has been far outpaced advantage wise by your average lowsec area (which is getting further ahead thanks to the faction capital component assembly array), faction warfare and renting in sov null.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 66	Posted - 2014.07.05 13:25:00 - [9] - Quote We're already EVE's Detroit. This will just put us back as EVE's south central LA at least.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 73	Posted - 2014.07.10 21:35:00 - [10] - Quote Syrias Bizniz wrote: I'd just like to point out how moving this thread back to front-page might impact quality of life for Syndicate resident. Act now and you too can make a difference in the life of a syndicate resident for the price of only one bump a day.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 73	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:57:00 - [11] - Quote You know what is worse than forgetting to bump this for a few days? Trying to make money in syndicate.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 78	Posted - 2014.07.16 22:06:00 - [12] - Quote Hey CCP, can a brother get a sticky? Alternately, it would be amazing if we had a CSM member who was a long time member of NPC nullsec who was all too aware of the difficulties of living in that section of space and could help CCP understand effects that their balances to Sov space would have on NPC nullsec.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 79	Posted - 2014.07.17 02:06:00 - [13] - Quote Aliventi wrote: Elmnt80 wrote: Hey CCP, can a brother get a sticky? Alternately, it would be amazing if we had a CSM member who was a long time member of NPC nullsec who was all too aware of the difficulties of living in that section of space and could help CCP understand effects that their balances to Sov space would have on NPC nullsec. BWAHAHAHAHAH... Ehrm We really should work on getting someone elected to the CSM. I'm considering running next year, but thats alot of work.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 79	Posted - 2014.07.17 08:40:00 - [14] - Quote Smugest Sniper wrote: being able to buy faction ships in the syndicate LP store would kind of be a thing, cause it is technically serpentis space isn't it? No, it isn't. The syndicate is a completely separate entity from the serpentis pirate faction.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 83	Posted - 2014.07.20 08:20:00 - [15] - Quote Zara Tosh wrote: give the syndicate Lp store a consumable WH generator, pops up a 1h WH with limited mass ( < 1 carrier), visible to all (just like cyno field?), that always connects NPC null system with another NPC null system) might in return even give life to ****** regions like great wildlands or venal. can't be used out of NPC null space. This is terrible for many, many reasons and does nothing to fix these regions. Saying this however does give me an excellent way to bump this thread to the top of the stack though.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 84	Posted - 2014.07.21 18:23:00 - [16] - Quote Venkata Chandrasekhara Raman wrote: Wonder when a dev or gm last was in Syndicate lat time... On TQ? Most of them probably haven't been to syndicate since their ill fated incursion to syndicate following the release of the incursion expansion. http://tiny.cc/z40cjx And they were dicks and didn't bother to remove the incursion when they were done, meaning that the main pipe between the halves of syndicate was cut off. Other than that, there have been CCP members in syndicate for the kings of lowsec event and for the live event surrounding the discovery of ghost sites, but those have only featured a few devs at most, and only those involved in the live events department. On Sisi, there are a ton of CCP members in syndicate seeing as 6-C is the main testing system. However the problems in syndicate aren't readily available on singularity.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 96	Posted - 2014.07.22 03:06:00 - [17] - Quote Joshua Foiritain wrote: This still needs fixing. You made me very confused as to why I had 13 notification things upon checking the forums. Also, I've gotten 90% of these likes from this one thread. I might mean its a popular idea or something CCP.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 98	Posted - 2014.07.23 22:03:00 - [18] - Quote Smugest Sniper wrote: Elmnt80 wrote: Joshua Foiritain wrote: This still needs fixing. You made me very confused as to why I had 13 notification things upon checking the forums. Also, I've gotten 90% of these likes from this one thread. I might mean its a popular idea or something CCP. That and the general nature that NPC null blows ass and syndicate being the most AAS blowing of them all. Though we do have Poitot, the only named system in Syndicate. Well, syndicate does have the system of AAS, so I suppose it is appropriate that its the most ass of all.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 100	Posted - 2014.07.30 06:46:00 - [19] - Quote Sal Landry wrote: Are you guys aware that there are other (more lucrative) agent options in Syndicate region than just Syndicate corporations? There are, but you don't see much improvement over highsec given that alot of your isk for the average player will wind up actually coming from bounties.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 123	Posted - 2014.07.31 18:58:00 - [20] - Quote Justin Cody wrote: Rovinia wrote: +1, Syndicate needs some help. Or better a goldrush As OP stated, the LP store of that faction is pretty useless. The Intaki Armor plates are crap, the Intaki warp disruptor bubbles are not competitive with the T1/T2 versions and the implants specialize on such things like the reduction of the duration of the side effects from booster (...and most pilotes really don't care if the side effect lasts 30 minutes or 25 minutes. At least not enough to waste money and a implant slot.) I still hope that the next series of faction Ships CCP introduces are for the Intaki Syndicate. Would love to see Intaki Space Police Cruisers or Battleships for some more Woop Woop! we need more thorax models? If it means syndicate is less ******, I'll take a million thorax models.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 129	Posted - 2014.08.03 02:06:00 - [21] - Quote It really should. Oh hey, look at that!
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 133	Posted - 2014.08.06 17:17:00 - [22] - Quote Terrible Goon Spy wrote: As dumb as this may sound, syndicate drug hauler. Or ships that have role bonuses to booster useage? Who cares! So long as its not utter **** and can be used to make money in one of the poorest regions in game!
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 148	Posted - 2014.08.19 18:46:00 - [23] - Quote The AT has been keeping me busy, but I syndicate is still ****. Bumpin' dis.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 148	Posted - 2014.08.19 19:05:00 - [24] - Quote Eduardo McLovin wrote: This is a scam \o/ You're a scam.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 151	Posted - 2014.08.20 17:28:00 - [25] - Quote However it would most likely not be introduced until a major overhaul of boosters in general, which really isn't what we need.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 160	Posted - 2014.08.27 06:34:00 - [26] - Quote I'd be ok with being adopted by angelina jolie if it meant syndicate got a fixed LP store.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 160	Posted - 2014.08.27 21:28:00 - [27] - Quote That probably would have worked better before rote went to provi. Now its Clockwork, agony and Castabouts against the rest of EVE and either castabouts or us are going home next weekend.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 161	Posted - 2014.09.05 01:11:00 - [28] - Quote I wonder how long we have to keep this on the front page before CCP tells us to stop annoying them.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 165	Posted - 2014.09.11 19:04:00 - [29] - Quote You know what is awesome? Making syndicate better!
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 165	Posted - 2014.09.15 21:17:00 - [30] - Quote Poitot would still be the only named system in syndicate. Also, I'm hoping CCP at least takes a passing look at this and it triggers someone to work on player level NPC Nullsec income!
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 169	Posted - 2014.09.16 22:00:00 - [31] - Quote There are several CSM members (and devs) who do care about NPC Nullsec, but NPC Null doesn't attract attention like sov null due to the numbers living there.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 172	Posted - 2014.09.18 07:14:00 - [32] - Quote This would be an excellent way to make Quafe Zero an unlimited item and makes the constellation with quafe stations in syndicate very valuable. It would also tie in with the flavor of the intaki syndicate's booster related items excellently. I however didn't suggest this since my alliance has effectively held that constellation for quite some time and above all else, I wouldn't want to suggest something that would only benefit an area I live in.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 172	Posted - 2014.09.18 17:40:00 - [33] - Quote Clockwork is not a member of the CFC, nor should CCP be basing their changes on who already lives in a constellation. Leave the political stuff out of this thread, tia.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 172	Posted - 2014.09.18 21:58:00 - [34] - Quote Or they do nothing and the resulting fight for control over the systems with those agents causes content. People have taken control of systems in this constellation from us and I doubt we'd keep it from happening again. And once again, we are not CFC and have no access to their services, we can not ask them for support in defending our assets, we have no official standings with most of the CFC (And unofficially there are quite a few who hate us) and should someone choose to throw an all out attack against us, we would not be able to ask the CFC for support. So once again, the politics of the region have no place in this thread. Leave it and get back to the subject at hand.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 182	Posted - 2014.09.25 03:43:00 - [35] - Quote I will dance naked for syndicate lp store improvements, just saying.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 222	Posted - 2014.09.25 03:43:07 - [36] - Quote I will dance naked for syndicate lp store improvements, just saying.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 182	Posted - 2014.10.01 20:41:00 - [37] - Quote Are we talking "Fix the syndicate LP store or I'll come to iceland and slip powerful hallucinogens into CCP Fozzie's beer?" aggressive or what?
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 222	Posted - 2014.10.01 20:41:53 - [38] - Quote Are we talking "Fix the syndicate LP store or I'll come to iceland and slip powerful hallucinogens into CCP Fozzie's beer?" aggressive or what?
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 211	Posted - 2014.10.09 11:17:00 - [39] - Quote Hey, know what would be awesome for driving conflict in Syndicate? This stuff.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 222	Posted - 2014.10.09 11:17:47 - [40] - Quote Hey, know what would be awesome for driving conflict in Syndicate? This stuff.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 215	Posted - 2014.10.16 12:39:00 - [41] - Quote https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie/status/522706325709799424 Slightly related.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 222	Posted - 2014.10.16 12:39:29 - [42] - Quote https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie/status/522706325709799424 Slightly related.
Elmnt80 Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple 223	Posted - 2014.10.29 03:54:07 - [43] - Quote Its a good step in the right direction. Assuming they don't have a restrictive cost applied to them, I can see the bubbles being somewhat valuable for holding down anchored fleets. Go in with standard bubbles loaded and auto reload turned off, drop the standards to catch the fleet, swap to syndicate bubbles to keep the targets held down.

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