Well, maybe not a "movie" but a commentary I found on youtube.

I agree with some points not not with all. In short, I really don't think EVE has anything to worry about with SC.



PS. I don't believe the Eve community is resistant to "change" without there being major backlash. If anything, the EVE community is resistant to BAD "change" (*cough* Incarna *cough*).

We all still want WIS...but not a half assed job rushed out the door just to meet a deadline. Then telling us that staring at a static door instead of your ship's hangar is a good thing, while devs sing the "greed is good" theme song.

Star Citizen looked OK ...

until "instanced"

Is it ladies' night in this thread?

Everything I have seen from star citizen is some guy walking around in a hangar then showing off a bed in a spaceship.

Well..sorta. My toon is actually a tranny.

1) Instancing and multiple servers

One of the things that has kept me in eve is this very reason. I enjoy playing with people from all over the world, and if a friend wants to join I don't have to have this conversation 'Dude you need to join the jita server... no not amarr, jita... yea delete your char and remake it on jita.'
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Well..sorta. My toon is actually a tranny.

The difference between the two is that EVE is real and SC is not. Everyone who bought into it got scammed.

I checked out SC because of the hype, but 3 things made me go 'mm prolly not'

1) Instancing and multiple servers

One of the things that has kept me in eve is this very reason. I enjoy playing with people from all over the world, and if a friend wants to join I don't have to have this conversation 'Dude you need to join the jita server... no not amarr, jita... yea delete your char and remake it on jita.'

Usually I like EVE graphics above all, but SC's are more appealing - I can actually see the details. Since EVE has moved to ever darker models I can't see hardly anything in space. If it wasn't for the Overview periscope nothing would get done.

We'll have to take your word on that, as I hear that SC has been developed in association with goonswarm.

The difference between the two is that EVE is real and SC is not. Everyone who bought into it got scammed.

That's not a bad review. He highlights a lot of relevant points. It's a shame he quit Eve over Dust

The thing to note with all of these new releases, which he mentions, they don't have the community Eve does. And probably never will.

It's hard for me to take someone seriously that straight-up quit playing Eve specifically because of Dust.

Re SC though, what really amuses me with this kind of speculation: if a large portion of Eve players head over there, they're going to misbehave pretty spectatcularly. How will their devs respond? Not well I suspect.

It would be fun to watch from the sidelines. Is this SC going to be a themepark, sandbox or what?

I heard Star Citizen has working toilets. Is this true?
Can you really take a spaceshit?

It would be fun to watch from the sidelines. Is this SC going to be a themepark, sandbox or what?

I think what most people miss is the fact that the people that will leave Eve for Star Citizen are not the type of people who post on these forums, but instead it is the quiet majority of players, the casual players, who will quit Eve for Star Citizen.

You guys can go on and one about "good riddance", and the "right type of Eve player", but what you say and think is irrelevant. What the group that don't come to the forums, who interact with the meta-game a tiny amount, or not at all, it matters what they think.

I think what most people miss is the fact that the people that will leave Eve for Star Citizen are not the type of people who post on these forums, but instead it is the quiet majority of players, the casual players, who will quit Eve for Star Citizen.

You guys can go on and one about "good riddance", and the "right type of Eve player", but what you say and think is irrelevant. What the group that don't come to the forums, who interact with the meta-game a tiny amount, or not at all, it matters what they think.

Kronos may have given them some pretty new models to play with, and some new sites to crack, but fundamentally not a lot of things changed in the game. And Crius is going to hit this group like a baseball bat to the back of the head.

So continue to post your views on Star Citizen. They are not being read by SC's target audience, and even if they are, they don't care about those views. The only thing that matters is when SC goes live, how many people quit Eve for SC, and it won't be people who are reading this thread.

That's not a bad review. He highlights a lot of relevant points. It's a shame he quit Eve over Dust

The thing to note with all of these new releases, which he mentions, they don't have the community Eve does. And probably never will.

I was one of the early guys getting such a golden card and such (for free fortunately) in the beginning. I was a big fan of the Wing Commander franchise, and as such the idea of Chris Roberts doing an MMORPG was nice.

But when i asked if we could play as Kilrathi (or whats the alien race called now.) on their facebook there was much avoiding the question, so i decided to not back the kickstarter.

If i can't play as kilrathi and blow them hairless apes out of the sky, the game is worthless anyway. I still follow the news, but development so far have shown me the game is going to be pretty substandard and not interesting at all. If the game is not vaporware that is.

I think what most people miss is the fact that the people that will leave Eve for Star Citizen are not the type of people who post on these forums, but instead it is the quiet majority of players, the casual players, who will quit Eve for Star Citizen.

You mean the majority that enjoys PvP, more so than any other activity in the game?
Yeah, no, they're not very likely to move to SC since it doesn't offer that kind of PvP.

I think what most people miss is the fact that the people that will leave Eve for Star Citizen are not the type of people who post on these forums, but instead it is the quiet majority of players, the casual players, who will quit Eve for Star Citizen.

You guys can go on and one about "good riddance", and the "right type of Eve player", but what you say and think is irrelevant. What the group that don't come to the forums, who interact with the meta-game a tiny amount, or not at all, it matters what they think.

Kronos may have given them some pretty new models to play with, and some new sites to crack, but fundamentally not a lot of things changed in the game. And Crius is going to hit this group like a baseball bat to the back of the head.

So continue to post your views on Star Citizen. They are not being read by SC's target audience, and even if they are, they don't care about those views. The only thing that matters is when SC goes live, how many people quit Eve for SC, and it won't be people who are reading this thread.

So people will migrate from EVE to a game that doesn't exist?

GǪand that doesn't do anything that EVE does. I suppose tons of people will migrate from EVE to Wasteland 2 as well.

It's always been baffling that people think SC will be a competitor for Eve just because it's set in space. The entire premise is idiotic.

You just want to roleplay Ralgha nar Hallas, don't you?

Solaris is basically the same film for the same audience as Armageddon, isn't it?

People who like terrible movies? Yeah pretty much

Pff. Just because you haven't eaten your PretentionalGäó pills. Tarkovsky > all.

Oh sorry, Im an idiot

I thought you meant the remake

I cant stand space-madness

No.

I want to roleplay Thrakhath nar Kiranka.

I had (thankfully) forgotten they remade it.

But when i asked if we could play as Kilrathi (or whats the alien race called now.) on their facebook there was much avoiding the question, so i decided to not back the kickstarter.

Two entirely different types of games. I don't even know why people want to compare them.

Pretty sure it'll be at least as "fun" as EVE is (though obviously different and subjective definitions apply).

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Star Citizen is a multi-year pyramid scheme under the guise of a perfect game.

Lol star citizen, Eve has more to worry about from Elite Dangerous.

I am really curious how you can say it will surely AT LEAST be as much fun if you haven't even seen anything close to the end result yet let alone having played it.

People said Star trek would be great it flopped , people said age of conan would be awsome and it flopped and basically you can add allmost every mmorpg released in the last years to that list and allmost all of them flopped and then went from PTP to FTP within a few months just to keep the game alive.

You can't state if something is or is not great if you don't have first hand experience with it.You CAN state that by the promises made by the company you will find it likely to enjoy it IF they keep themselves to the promises.But then we all know game companies these days overhype their own products massively and have half of their promises be nothing more then empty words in the end.

each to their own how they like to play.

A few things that swing my gaze towards SC. First up EVE has to be the all original space mmo game, no disputing that - i have been playing since 2009. It's good, but for me, doesn't exactly hit the mark

For me EvE would be better if there was a PvP on off switch

I'd love it if my ship, worth a real life value of -ú220 couldn't be destroyed at a gate camp (I dont ever use it as I have no intention of throwing that kind of money away).

Not trying to impose any of my doctrine on anything eve - just saying that if there was some remote chance in a parallel universe that eve had gone down that route it would be what i was looking for.

Sadly my ship does have a real life value. ISK is measured in real life value, CCP bragged that in one space battle over 300,000 euros (was it euros, or dollars) worth of ships got destroyed, so there is some kind of monetary link there eve by CCP themselves..

Anyway, i'm nothing but breadcrumbs for the birds here. I'm just expressing why i'm likely to look to SC with an open mind.

Yes. Its called X2 and X3. It is a one player game with no PvP.
But "turning off" PvP would dramatically change EvE for everyone in the game. Even those who do not PvP, as it happens.

You shouldn't.

Scams burn open minds more easily than the wary

you only say that because you don't realise how great a deal these space goldfish are

1) He's being sarcastic (Hence the ")

About 14 C-Bills. United Earth Credits were superceded by Terran Hegenomy Bonds, which in turn were superceded by the Star League Dollar, which officially collapsed in 2780, and was replaced by the ComStar Bill, the value of which is set in relation to the cost of Hyperspace Pulse Generator use.

so, uh, it's one united states dollar

Just remember guys, "time is money, friend"

Having said that ED looks more promising, my worry is that the 400 billion solar systems they want to introduce will be too big to provide any kind of multiplayer experience, or feeling that you're interacting with any real players at all.

Well, maybe not a "movie" but a commentary I found on youtube.

I agree with some points but not with all. In short, I really don't think EVE has anything to worry about with SC.



PS. I don't believe "the Eve community is resistant to change without there being major backlash." If anything, the EVE community is resistant to BAD "change" (*cough* Incarna *cough*).

We all still want WIS...but not a half assed job rushed out the door just to meet a deadline. Then telling us that staring at a static door instead of your ship's hangar is a good thing, while devs sing the "greed is good" theme song.

Two entirely different types of games. I don't even know why people want to compare them.

Lol star citizen, Eve has more to worry about from Elite Dangerous.

Take away the economy of Eve & I doubt any of us (even PvPrs) would be playing it.