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Fiendish Dr Wu
13. Enigma Project
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Posted - 2016.02.01 15:35:36 -
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General Moby Deek wrote:Maeltstome wrote: I'd love to see an effective T3 fit that wasn't a tengu for this.
Wonder if there is a good Legion fit for clearing C3 sites, but I assume it would run into cap issues.
Bit late to the party sorry. Prepare yourself for legion expertise. If you arent interested in legion fits, stop reading now!
The legion is great in a c3 and probably my favourite t3 due to the ability to instantly swap ammo to suit range and not need to worry about running out. Your only concern really is frigates which can be a pain if you dont know what spawns in what wave (but are fine once you know what to expect). Its also the sexiest and nicest to look at. (This is fact not opinion, your argument is invalid)
The fit below is the sort of thing I'd use if running C3 sites. If I remember right you need about 50% cap stable in a legion for the neuts there if youre tanking the worst anoms. The fit assumes good skills and enough isk to afford it, though if you're living in wormholes you should have plenty of isk for a decent PvE ship. It is also fit for fast clear times and low tank so be careful in it as the tank is only just enough. Dont be afraid to overheat if you mess up. Keep your afterburner on and kill any turrets quickly as they apply the best dps to you. Swap the tracking computer for a web if you're struggling with the frigates. Always bring a depot and warp core stabs.
This is from memory, so check market prices for faction / DED items before buying as they may not be the most cost effective now.
[Legion, C3 PvE] Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Heat Sink II Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Core C-Type Armor Thermal Hardener Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
10MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
If your skills are low or you don't want to splash on isk you can either upgrade the repper / resists to an A-type or try a lower dps fit like this one, which is a great entry level T3 fit until youre more comfortable. As mentioned in an earlier post though, your best way to minimalise isk loss from PvP is to run the sites quickly and get out, so I prefer the higher dps blingy fit. Ive only ever lost one and even that was completely avoidable.
[Legion, Low SP / Isk]
Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Core C-Type Armor Thermal Hardener Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
10MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Living in WHs you will never regret skilling a legion pilot. HAM legions, neut legions and PvE legions are all great ships that you will use regularly. Theyre extremely versatile. |
Astaced Starseeker
Rise on Chaos Nice To See You
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Posted - 2016.02.24 12:29:56 -
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Someone have a fit that can do C4 sites? Pref not RR |
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
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Posted - 2016.03.25 17:17:30 -
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Astaced Starseeker wrote:Someone have a fit that can do C4 sites? Pref not RR. Pref a tengu
This Tengu should be able to do all C4 sites easely, it can also run C5 sites(exept Core Stronghold) really well.
https://o.smium.org/loadout/69141
i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183
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Odin Skydiver
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
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Posted - 2016.03.27 16:05:17 -
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Update to Ghetto Golem aka C4 Raven https://youtu.be/4UcgsRHkUXI. |
Samuel Morgenthau
Friendship Rainbows and Unicorns Import Export
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Posted - 2016.04.06 11:50:21 -
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Can someone please link the rattlesnake c3 fit? Curious to see what it does in EFT :) |
Som Boty
Super Mother Fan Club
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Posted - 2016.04.21 06:21:17 -
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Gustav Mannfred wrote:Astaced Starseeker wrote:Someone have a fit that can do C4 sites? Pref not RR. Pref a tengu This Tengu should be able to do all C4 sites easely, it can also run C5 sites(exept Core Stronghold) really well. https://o.smium.org/loadout/69141
I don't think that would survive C4s. HAMs are tricky in places given that sleepers neut @ 70km and it won't have the DPS to break the RR on certain sites.
You can do most C4s is you switch toT2 Heavies though. |
BFE
Thee Almitee Ones Paragons Of Virtue
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Posted - 2016.04.23 22:35:02 -
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Longinius Spear wrote:Foedus Latro wrote:C6 Red Giants can still be done by smartbombing (used Abaddons, not Apocs) with the right fits and precision. Best if the sites are spawned already, and you have the correct warpins.
That being said, it's a lot less hassle to do sites conventionally if you're already set up for that. And if your archon gives you reps, you don't die and another smart bombing Abaddon doesn't pod you. Other than that, its great!
You don't need an archon (or the new Fleet Aux) for RR. I made a smart bomb abandon fit with 96 (or 98, don't remember) % resist. A single armor rep on the ship itself is more than enough. |
Kaphraxus
The Combined Interests Group
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Posted - 2016.04.24 00:37:08 -
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what fit? Is that on sisi? |
Johng Kahn
We're Happy In Wormhole Space
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Posted - 2016.04.28 23:16:06 -
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CCP broke my rauder !!!!! Any new ideas for solo/small gang c5 with marauders considering you cant refit now? |
Jessie McPewpew
U2EZ
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Posted - 2016.04.30 23:39:03 -
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Johng Kahn wrote:CCP broke my rauder !!!!! Any new ideas for solo/small gang c5 with marauders considering you cant refit now? Fit RR reps and get a loki/proteus in there for frigs/ low sig cruisers. Two large reppers and one cap transfer. The T3 does the webbing while the rauders melt everything. A legion/proteus can still add 700dps+ while providing web support. |
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Johng Kahn
We're Happy In Wormhole Space
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Posted - 2016.05.01 13:59:17 -
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Jessie McPewpew wrote:Johng Kahn wrote:CCP broke my rauder !!!!! Any new ideas for solo/small gang c5 with marauders considering you cant refit now? Fit RR reps and get a loki/proteus in there for frigs/ low sig cruisers. Two large reppers and one cap transfer. The T3 does the webbing while the rauders melt everything. A legion/proteus can still add 700dps+ while providing web support.
True, I'm just sad that the old solo / 2 to 4 marauder ratting fleets are derped mostly now. you dont have much choice but to go in cap fit at this point for c5 and that lowers your dps alot. |
Som Boty
Super Mother Fan Club
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Posted - 2016.05.03 04:22:10 -
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Hypothetical, I have four identical rr-shield domi pilots, but I can't even run gas sites in a C5. What's my move? |
Trixi Laminer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.03 08:28:23 -
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You could train up 4 kronos pilots perhaps? Or 2 oneiros and 2 dps battleships / heavy cruisers of choice should work. |
Odin Skydiver
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2016.05.03 12:16:08 -
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Kaphraxus wrote:what fit? Is that on sisi? Run was done in sisi and original fit is in youtube description but there is updated fit anyway. Works away faster when having two of these in a same site (3x ravens can use fury all the time because of 3 tps).
[Raven, Raven: C4]
Ballistic Control System II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Pith B-Type Thermal Dissipation Field Target Painter II Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
Implants: Slot 6 EO-602 and Slot 8 EM-802 (also works with 601&801). |
Fiendish Dr Wu
13. Enigma Project
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Posted - 2016.05.03 12:26:30 -
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Som Boty wrote:Hypothetical, I have four identical rr-shield domi pilots, but I can't even run gas sites in a C5. What's my move?
Marauders or more appropriately in this case, cap transfer rattlesnakes are the norm in C5 space. Check my recent losses for a fit, blood union caught me panic warping 2 of them back to our static whilst my girlfriend was distracting me just the other day :P (why is it always the new sig spawns in the 5 minutes that you're not paying attention?!) |
Som Boty
Super Mother Fan Club
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Posted - 2016.05.03 14:47:21 -
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Fiendish Dr Wu wrote:Som Boty wrote:Hypothetical, I have four identical rr-shield domi pilots, but I can't even run gas sites in a C5. What's my move? Marauders or more appropriately in this case, cap transfer rattlesnakes are the norm in C5 space. Check my recent losses for a fit, blood union caught me panic warping 2 of them back to our static whilst my girlfriend was distracting me just the other day :P (why is it always the new sig spawns in the 5 minutes that you're not paying attention?!) Edit: Also the gas sites are amongst the harder sites to be fair. Mostly you run Garrisons for isk then roll.
Thanks for the fit! I've been considering migrating to rattlesnakes for a few weeks but i've struggled to find a fit that I like. I will check this out. |
Som Boty
Super Mother Fan Club
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Posted - 2016.05.03 14:49:22 -
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Trixi Laminer wrote:You could train up 4 kronos pilots perhaps? Or 2 oneiros and 2 dps battleships / heavy cruisers of choice should work.
I was thinking about marauders, but if i did that, wouldn't it be better to do golems? |
Fiendish Dr Wu
13. Enigma Project
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Posted - 2016.05.04 15:15:32 -
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Som Boty wrote: Edit: also why are core Garrison's preferred?
Even rattlesnakes struggle to tank some of the anomalies, they can only really do the garrisons and I think the Oruzes.
Pretty sure only marauders and Capitals can manage them all.
Not that its usually a problem, if you find a hole worth running sites in you'll run out of patience before anomalies :P
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Johng Kahn
We're Happy In Wormhole Space
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Posted - 2016.05.05 12:27:21 -
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Well considering that marauders are now a flying weapons timer and a proper c5 one is about 3 bill it's actually more efficient to do it in rattles these days.
Some may find it surprising but it only takes 2 basi and 3 600 dps gila to do all the c5 sites. If you have friends that may be the better choice and the lowest isk investment over all.
Due to application you will actually clear sites faster then a pair of marauders will.
I have found the optimal gila amount though to be 5. |
Som Boty
Super Mother Fan Club
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Posted - 2016.05.05 23:33:20 -
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Johng Kahn wrote:Well considering that marauders are now a flying weapons timer and a proper c5 one is about 3 bill it's actually more efficient to do it in rattles these days.
Some may find it surprising but it only takes 2 basi and 3 600 dps gila to do all the c5 sites. If you have friends that may be the better choice and the lowest isk investment over all.
Due to application you will actually clear sites faster then a pair of marauders will.
I have found the optimal gila amount though to be 5.
why gilas instead of rattles? have you tried that composition with the new c5 sites? |
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Johng Kahn
We're Happy In Wormhole Space
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Posted - 2016.05.06 13:33:56 -
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New vs old c5 sites are only changed for capitol escalation waves. So the original sites still follow the same triggers and spawns.
In truth the reality is that if you have more then 5 people your really better in gilas as the applied dmg is much better and the medium drones get to their targets much faster then with rattles. If you are providing logi for the rattles instead of them just being cap transfer then your still taking 2 to 3 pilots that could pew and putting them into basi.
The gila's also have a better sig tanking ability so what logi you are providing has to work less to tank more. Without proper tests i would say the balance to decide between cap transfer rattles vs logi supported gila would be any more then say 6 people i would go with gila/basi.
On a side note dead hobs are cheaper then dead gecko's
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Johng Kahn
We're Happy In Wormhole Space
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Posted - 2016.05.06 13:41:04 -
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Som Boty wrote:Trixi Laminer wrote:You could train up 4 kronos pilots perhaps? Or 2 oneiros and 2 dps battleships / heavy cruisers of choice should work. I was thinking about marauders, but if i did that, wouldn't it be better to do golems?
Golems are so so by themselves but when teamed up with a vargur or pally they amplify the pew factor tremendously due to having hugin level paints.
Pally and vargur definitely have the best overall tank. Pally has to be able to fit for cap sacrificing dps for certain waves more then the others but hits like a mad man.
One of my toons flies golem and I like it for the most part. Mostly because it's fairly ez mode in c4 and c3. Though rattle is far more efficient in c3. |
Max Caulfield
Contina AG Mauren
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Posted - 2016.06.27 16:54:34 -
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Shameless self-promotion: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6478096#post6478096
https://o.smium.org/profile/9573
Extensively tested Legion and Tengu fits for C3 anomalies and below. With some modifications they are able to run C3 signatures too. They will also do first wave of Unsecured Frontier Server Bank and Forgotten Core Data Field, which are C5 signatures - they net 37mil worth of blue loot and one of them has talocan can too. |
Keller12
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.07.14 13:08:44 -
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Thank you for the info, Max C. |
Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2016.07.16 09:34:13 -
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Som Boty wrote:Hypothetical, I have four identical rr-shield domi pilots, but I can't even run gas sites in a C5. What's my move? Train cruise ravens. book mark 300km away and shoot missiles. A single raven can clear cores in C5 black hole. {takes a while though} |
Jaffa Kooma
Pirjo's Coffin and Canoe
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Posted - 2016.07.25 12:47:35 -
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Adoris Nolen wrote:Som Boty wrote:Hypothetical, I have four identical rr-shield domi pilots, but I can't even run gas sites in a C5. What's my move? Train cruise ravens. book mark 300km away and shoot missiles. A single raven can clear cores in C5 black hole. {takes a while though}
didn't they fix FoF missiles so the sleepers still aggro from far away? |
Agt Dunham
The Union of Planets
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Posted - 2016.08.14 02:56:16 -
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What ships would you want to use in a Magnetar Wormhole for C3 and up ? |
Zoltan Lazar
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Posted - 2016.08.14 04:39:29 -
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Agt Dunham wrote:What ships would you want to use in a Magnetar Wormhole for C3 and up ?
Same as you would use for non-magnetar but fit more tracking/application. Tengu, rattlesnake are of course king. |
Muffin Paladin
Iron.Guard Iron Armada
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Posted - 2016.08.17 05:50:18 -
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Hey all, I've been considering getting myself a Tengu to make some ISK on day trips to WH space. You guys got any fits you would recommend? I was thinking no higher than C3, probably C2 to start with.
Thank you very much :) |
Kalmr Varys
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.08.17 17:51:05 -
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Muffin Paladin wrote:Hey all, I've been considering getting myself a Tengu to make some ISK on day trips to WH space. You guys got any fits you would recommend? I was thinking no higher than C3, probably C2 to start with.
Thank you very much :)
https://o.smium.org/loadout/87511
Take that, drop a guidance computer for a boost amp until you get comfortable with piloting transversal in sites.
Alternatively, there's a fit linked in its description which gets a much better cap profile but has a bit less DPS. |
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