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Balgus Malignas
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Posted - 2006.06.12 18:05:00 -
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No, I'm not talking about people who backed this ipo, they provide a much needed service and I'm sure they do everything they can using the tools Eve provides to verify the validity of these ipo's before giving their approval. I'm talking about who is responsible and who can be punished in game.
First we have the obvious Janette/ArtemisEntreri, he can be hunted til he sells his character if he ever joins another corp.
From the unedited ipo that can be found on eve-search, "along with the co-CEO my brother Erstam Rift". Erstam became a member of Fuzzyness Enterprizes 6 hours after his creation. Generally when someone joins a corp that quickly they are an alt or friend of someone already in the corp. Artemis was a member of Fuzzyness Enterprizes for 4 days in 2005. Was the validity of his statement ever checked, that he was infact Erstam's brother?
From the EMFI interview: EMFi Manager > are there any really big figure heads that know you well? EMFi Manager > or even IRL? Janette > do you know xxxxxxx? EMFi Manager > yes EMFi Manager > with my main character Janette > he's very rich and kinda owns xxxxxxx bpo Janette > he's entrusted me and he's a friend of mine EMFi Manager > ok EMFi Manager > could you have him send me an evemail to confirm?
Who is this person, what bpo do they own, and did they send you a confirmation evemail? If they did, do you feel they were actively involved in the scam or just a tool like so many others.
Anyhow, we have what is possibly the brother and friend of the scammer, pressure can be applied to these individuals/corps for the return of your isk.
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Janette
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Posted - 2006.06.12 18:12:00 -
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Actually no Naph never recieved any confirmation from that person or any proof that that person even owns a BPO at all.
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Janette
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Posted - 2006.06.12 18:14:00 -
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And no there is no proof that Erstam and I even know each other. And if you pressure those people it can be petitioned as harassment, also I want to note that the only person ever joined the corp is Exelsior's alt, Morphtalia.
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Balgus Malignas
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Posted - 2006.06.12 18:17:00 -
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No that is not harrassment, if you scam someone you can expect to be war decced via in game mechanics.
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Exelsior
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Posted - 2006.06.12 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Exelsior on 12/06/2006 18:19:28
Originally by: Janette And no there is no proof that Erstam and I even know each other. And if you pressure those people it can be petitioned as harassment, also I want to note that the only person ever joined the corp is Exelsior's alt, Morphtalia.
Yes.
Edit; Morphalia, no 't' in it My Blog with freighter services/preliminary IPO business plan
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EMFi Manager
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Posted - 2006.06.12 18:22:00 -
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Janette said so, it must be true.... :P
Alt of Naphtalia EMFI General IPO is CLOSED! |
Elange4
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Posted - 2006.06.12 18:31:00 -
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Janette, It will not be me...
... but of course there will be repercussions for you and your friends; harasssment or no. The game is built on repercussions.
I am not involved, as I did not buy shares; but I regret your actions enormously, and will not only research more thoroughly in the future (I have been scammed only on GPSX), but trust me, I and all of my friends will know as much as we can (legally) about you and yours.
If they have to pay for your actions due to vigilantes, well it is on your head and you should recognize it and own up to it. There is a reason why bounties are available to be levied by players ON other players. You may well avoid it it's employment, but the Reason is still there.
Again, it will not be me as I am not involved.
But, as it has been said, "The people have long memories."
--Elange4
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.06.12 20:58:00 -
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I would also like to warn Janette that there are those who specialize in destroying people's lives in EVE for good, forever, without exploiting.
I am not one of them, but some of those people bought your shares.
It won't come from me, but you may have a lot more to answer for than you'd like. I suggest you run fast, as fast as you can.
--Proud member of the [23]--
-WTB Platinum Technite, WTS Nanotransistors, Heavy Electron II, 100mn AB II-
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Shassandra
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:17:00 -
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Any link to more info on this topic?
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Cherybol
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:22:00 -
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GPSX was a scam!?
Holy crap, scams are everywhere! What happened to eve!?
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Elange4
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:29:00 -
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Cherybol,
To be clear, I am certain it was not intended to originally be a scam, tho she ran off with everyone's money.
She and I butted heads early after the IPO, so I wrote of my losses but have been following the IPO since January, so I watched her self-destruct... I hate to say it, almost happily.
On that note, anyone who ever wants to offer an IPO, here's a bit of advice: stay cool-headed (no Roleplay probably); be clear, upfront, and sparing in what you say; be prepared for disagreement, if handled right you can harvest it for very good ideas and/or profit.
--Elange4
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Heartseeker
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Posted - 2006.06.12 22:04:00 -
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Those that live by the sword die for the sword. As I am sure most if not all have read.
When things go too far
Anytime when real life money or time can be converted into other people's reality/fantasy bad things happen.
Mean people suck.
Thanks, Heart
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BustyBounty
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Posted - 2006.06.13 03:11:00 -
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Edited by: BustyBounty on 13/06/2006 03:13:34
Originally by: Janette And no there is no proof that Erstam and I even know each other. And if you pressure those people it can be petitioned as harassment, also I want to note that the only person ever joined the corp is Exelsior's alt, Morphtalia.
i hope you never ever gave out your name and city you live in to anyone in this game. it would only take 60seconds to find out what your address is.
wouldnt suprise me if someone turned up on your doorstep demanding isk if u ever did reveal that information to anyone who may have bought shares lol
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2006.06.13 04:35:00 -
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Leave the real life references out of this discussion, type about in-game actions only.
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