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Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:28:00 -
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I am actually even more dissapointed the information about the withdrawal of industry was so non-existant . This information should at least have been pushed with the same vigour as the information about the industry changes initially...
It was one of the main reasons I re-subbed to the game so it does feel a bit sour...even though...as someone else mentioned the absolute worst would have been if they introduced the changes and there was something wrong with them or broke balance or something.
But again...I could live with the failed promise to deliver the industry changes if only they INFORMED us ASAP...
I mean this is CCP right...not Wargaming
I wonder what the flood here would have been if this was a branch of ships we where talking about...but its only industry right...so who cares right... Our corporation is recruiting! It is a laid back corp of Swedes...and others. We currently live in Caldari high-sec-space and mainly do mining and missions together.
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Jim Era
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:30:00 -
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Its only like a month away. calm down WatGäó |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Noir. Mercenary Group
668
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:30:00 -
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Your failure to read dev blogs is not the fault of CCP. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:32:00 -
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Magnus Orly wrote: But again...I could live with the failed promise to deliver the industry changes if only they INFORMED us ASAP...
It's not their fault you couldn't be arsed to read the dev blog. "Help, I'm bored with missions!"
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Da'iel Zehn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
167
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:35:00 -
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*hands OP a nice, soft, fluffy tissue* Daniel Zehn Keeper of Evil Frosty
PLEX for...-á :-) |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:35:00 -
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Curse CCP and their free expansions!
GrrrProperly planned releases! "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "Question asked, insults exchanged, solutions given, face palms had, problem solved, off topic posts posted, thread locked." - ISD Ezwal |
Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:36:00 -
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Nope. There's still heavy testing and feedback being given. We don't need any more expansions being implemented half-baked to pacify those with short attention spans (who'll probably complain the loudest on release anyway).
There has been plenty of communication about the shift from Kronos to Crius, and opportunity to give feedback on the change. If you knew about the upcoming indy changes, you knew where to look to keep an eye on rescheduling.
Go have a look at some of the Dev blog feedback threads. That, btw, is other players contributing to the changes so you don't have to. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:38:00 -
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no, 6 or so weeks isn't long to wait in order to have something that works rather than a broken game.
also you were warned in advanced. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:38:00 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:[b]I wonder what the flood here would have been if this was a branch of ships we where talking about...but its only industry right...so who cares right... Industry is a huge part of the game, so my guess is many players care.
After reading the Devblog about why the change was pushed back to Crius, I guess most of us are happy to give CCP some slack to make sure it is right.
However, you don't have long to wait until you can test it yourself and provide constructive feedback. It will be on SiSi on Tuesday. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:45:00 -
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Well. It was announced twenty-one days before the Kronos release the industry redo was to be delayed by six weeks.
I think they'll deliver in those six weeks, too. Did you know that some games risky investments don't deliver basic gameplay for six months after the promised release date? |
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Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:45:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote: After reading the Devblog about why the change was pushed back to Crius, I guess most of us are happy to give CCP some slack to make sure it is right.
Perhaps...but I think the size of this fall-off well justified an e-mail to all subscribers. I mean Kronos was gonna be "the industry patch" right... Our corporation is recruiting! It is a laid back corp of Swedes...and others. We currently live in Caldari high-sec-space and mainly do mining and missions together.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:51:00 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote: After reading the Devblog about why the change was pushed back to Crius, I guess most of us are happy to give CCP some slack to make sure it is right.
Perhaps...but I think the size of this fall-off well justified an e-mail to all subscribers. I mean Kronos was gonna be "the industry patch" right...
they don't email people for the csm elections
the chance they'll mail anyone for an announcement they've already made was like wishing you win the lottery without buying a ticket. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:52:00 -
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Plus Im sure more junk mail is just what we all want "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "Question asked, insults exchanged, solutions given, face palms had, problem solved, off topic posts posted, thread locked." - ISD Ezwal |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Noir. Mercenary Group
670
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:53:00 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote: After reading the Devblog about why the change was pushed back to Crius, I guess most of us are happy to give CCP some slack to make sure it is right.
Perhaps...but I think the size of this fall-off well justified an e-mail to all subscribers. I mean Kronos was gonna be "the industry patch" right...
Would you like an email for every change. Look, you know where to find the info. Your own ignorance and therefore your own outrage is your fault alone. Hell if you watched the expansion to release section of the keynote this exact scenario was discussed. How can you possibly be surprised?
I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
757
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:53:00 -
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Well, patience young padawan, it is about to land on SiSi Fluffy Bunny Pic! |
Neesa Corrinne
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:57:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Curse CCP and their free expansions!
I know right? I mean those subs, PLEX and Aurum are all going to charity of course.
... and yes OP, I'm disappointed that CCP has put off the industry expansion. The overwhelming majority of dev blogs leading up to Kronos were "Industry, industry oh and more industry... aaaand psyche!"
If you're going to spend months leading up to an expansion basically telling everyone that it's an industry expansion, and then all you really put out are three ships that any 3D modeler out of art school could have thrown together in a couple of weeks, then that's just bad business practice. |
Dave stark
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:58:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Plus Im sure more junk mail is just what we all want
well, when the information is there for people... yeah, a mass mail is somewhat redundant for something so trivial. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
920
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:59:00 -
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Neesa Corrinne wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Curse CCP and their free expansions!
I know right? I mean those subs, PLEX and Aurum are all going to charity of course.
None of those things entitle you to expansions. A sub grants you access to the server on an as-is basis. While that money is obviously being used to cover the cost of continued development, there is no promise of that in the exchange. "Help, I'm bored with missions!"
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Dominus Tempus
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.06.09 20:08:00 -
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Man, this thread is bunk.
It's the OP's fault for not seeing the headline pinned to the very top of the launcher for a solid week or bothering to go to the news page a single time. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2014.06.09 20:17:00 -
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It is good that CCP listened to the player feedback and delayed the industry 'add-on' (what do we call new stuff now that expansions as such are a thing of the past)? until it has been much improved and ready for release.
A badly re-balanced ship is annoying, industry being borked would be a disaster for so much of the game.
I have never got around to manufacturing, although I shall when the new shiny industry stuff is released. This is not a signature. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.06.09 20:19:00 -
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No. I'd prefer if it worked rather than came early. And iirc, they started shouting about it being moved during, or very closely to, FF2014, so it's hardly a new and shocking development. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
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Posted - 2014.06.09 20:24:00 -
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Tippia wrote:No. I'd prefer if it worked rather than came early. And iirc, they started shouting about it being moved during, or very closely to, FF2014, so it's hardly a new and shocking development. Took the words right out of my mouth. Op, think BF4. "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
Unsuccessful At Everything |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.06.09 20:40:00 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:Perhaps...but I think the size of this fall-off well justified an e-mail to all subscribers. I mean Kronos was gonna be "the industry patch" right... Why would it justify an email? That seems like a rather high sense of entitlement.
CCP published a specific devblg and addressed it in forum posts. If your interested in industry and an active member of the community, there has been a lot of information available to be kept informed.
However if you are not interested in industry or aren't all that active in the community, then an email is little more than spam that would also need to be carried across other issues too, leading to more emails that might or might not be relevant.
If you're concerned about receiving an email, sign up for the newsletter. It normally contains information on key devblogs. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2014.06.09 21:04:00 -
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Magnus Orly wrote:I am actually even more dissapointed the information about the withdrawal of industry was so non-existant . This information should at least have been pushed with the same vigour as the information about the industry changes initially...
I agree, if only they posted a dev blog about it, like when they announced the industry changes. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.06.09 21:10:00 -
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This is the whole point of the new release cycle. They saw that they needed more feedback, testing, and time to address issues before they put this massive change into effect. This is the new direction of CCP, and it seems to be going ok.
The old way, they would just rammed it in, and went 'ya we will fix it later... OOOOH SHINEY!!!!" 10 years of eve... yea i'm an addict |
James Archon
Beyond the Great Unknown
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Posted - 2014.06.09 21:34:00 -
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I guess the original poster that actually resubbed because of the feature promised by ccp, just have to pay for a month without getting what he wanted to pay for! I would certanly understand it if he wanted his money back. You just don't do that to Your coustomers. There should have been more information for this poor victim of Pshhhhhhh.. |
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.09 21:39:00 -
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James Archon wrote:I guess the original poster that actually resubbed because of the feature promised by ccp, just have to pay for a month without getting what he wanted to pay for! I would certanly understand it if he wanted his money back. You just don't do that to Your coustomers. There should have been more information for this poor victim of Pshhhhhhh..
Now call me crazy, but if I am coming back because of a feature that I wanted to try out. I would wait till it went live before I resubbed. |
James Archon
Beyond the Great Unknown
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Posted - 2014.06.09 21:42:00 -
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Adira Nictor wrote:James Archon wrote:I guess the original poster that actually resubbed because of the feature promised by ccp, just have to pay for a month without getting what he wanted to pay for! I would certanly understand it if he wanted his money back. You just don't do that to Your coustomers. There should have been more information for this poor victim of Pshhhhhhh.. Now call me crazy, but if I am coming back because of a feature that I wanted to try out. I would wait till it went live before I resubbed.
he probably would, if the information that it would'nt, was easyly obtained. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.09 21:44:00 -
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Yeah its disappointing that it got pushed back, a bigger disappointment is that they did not convert all T2 BPOs to BPCs. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.06.09 21:53:00 -
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James Archon wrote:he probably would, if the information that it would'nt, was easyly obtained. How was it not easily obtained?
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