A few months and one site, and you're an expert. Oh please, Lord and Master of all Hacking Knowledge, how can I be more like you?

I-¦m sorry that you think you can play eve without thought and effort, that easy mode should be the norm and that Jita is the only place to trade, but reward should reflect effort and risk and you seem to want to avoid both.

thanks for your insights. Yet again I am overwhelmed by the bigotry of people on these forums.

4. For the guy who says he just ran 3 sites and scopped half a billion - yeah right, get a grip, pure fantasy. Five relic quarrys in a row and you might just scrape half a billion. Data sites? It would take roughly tale between 40-50 sites.

Who said any of this?



What bigotry?



It was a rather lucky haul. If I'd known this thread existed at the time, I would have screenshot it. Don't know how long you've been doing EVE, but you claim a few months. I've been doing it for a few years, including a lot of exploring. I quite enjoy it as a downtime to PVP.

Let me tell you what the actual problem is. It's too easy. It's virtually risk free, even in nulsec. All you have to do is cloak up and disappear if someone not blue enters local, and you will never be risking anything. So good, I'm glad they're worthless. The reward matches the risk if they're worthless. On the other hand, if you suggest increasing the value of loot, then I suggest putting a few crazy hard, really smart battleships in the site to make it actually worth the payoff.

Exploration isn't the only option available to you. Try ratting or plexing. If this isn't do-able with you skill points, return to empire and eek out a living with the other newbies.

3. I have answered those who shout "market market" - I have no issue at all with the market value of individual loot items, and neither would I want to interfere with the market. But what has 2-3 cans per site containing only carbon got to do with the market? Nothing.

That was extremely lucky of you. I have run nullsec data/relic sites everyday since January this year, including serpentis, sansha and gurista systems. I sometimes do this for 6-8 hours on end, scanning dozens of systems.

So... only three factions? Cuz I've been all over. I prefer Sleeper sites, at least they're a challenge.

4. For the guy who says he just ran 3 sites and scopped half a billion - yeah right, get a grip, pure fantasy. Five relic quarrys in a row and you might just scrape half a billion. Data sites? It would take roughly tale between 40-50 sites.

Ah, yes, the completely worthless plexes like radiance and hierarchy. It would be nice if CCP actually added a good loot table to the overseer rats there so they drop deadspace drone modules on a fairly regular base. And not after some escalation which leads to nothing all to often. Or just remove them all together from non drone space.

I-¦m sorry that you think you can play eve without thought and effort, that easy mode should be the norm and that Jita is the only place to trade, but reward should reflect effort and risk and you seem to want to avoid both.



thanks for your insights. Yet again I am overwhelmed by the bigotry of people on these forums.

1. I stated that as a new player I thought hacking and archaeology were going to be about exploring the universe, would contain and tie-in to deep lore, would revolve around a plethora of missions, gaining a deep understanding of npc factions, maybe having to solve chain quests, mysteries....as an example, discovering an old Jovian deep in space who is looking for his daughter and sends me in search of her, and in the process I have to solve lots of clues etc.
If you knew me, or if you had taken the time to read my posts, then you would most definitely not consider me a mindless bimbo.

2. Because none of the above is what hacking/arch is about - a huge disappointment to me when discovering all hacking/arch is about is making isk - then all I asked was that data sites contained worthwhile loot for the risk of being in nullsec, and to bring their value up to that of relic sites.

3. I have answered those who shout "market market" - I have no issue at all with the market value of individual loot items, and neither would I want to interfere with the market. But what has 2-3 cans per site containing only carbon got to do with the market? Nothing.

4. For the guy who says he just ran 3 sites and scopped half a billion - yeah right, get a grip, pure fantasy. Five relic quarrys in a row and you might just scrape half a billion. Data sites? It would take roughly tale between 40-50 sites.

Hunting her down and vaporizing her,
like she deserves,
would be a better option than talking here.

So, the lesson is to accept Eve for what it is. Do not make suggestions. Keep your mouth shut. Leave discussion to those who have been playing for x number of years and whose sole enjoyment is to "vaporise" fellow players. There's a book out there - haven't read it - titled, The Psychopath Test. Go give it a whirl.

Goodbye forums

There's a book out there - haven't read it - titled, The Psychopath Test. Go give it a whirl.

Goodbye (cruel) forums

Or, if you can't be bothered, do this easy test

I got 87%

I was disappoint

I second that

It was the main thing I did in this game for a few years, the thing that finally hooked me to this game. But since the changes, adding the mini-game, the hacking rigs etc, removing the rats to fight, it became crud and very un-EVE like. How I miss the pre-odyssey days. There were no complaints, it worked fine, and nothing about complaining over loot as all it has become now. sad-sad.

thanks for the tip. However, why should I be forced into another profession when I was sold on the idea of hacking from day 1? Plus, I have alts that do other things.