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Da Death
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Posted - 2006.06.14 07:25:00 -
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Edited by: Da Death on 14/06/2006 07:31:46
I wonder what happened: I was IPO scammed and even I had evidence that the scam was 'intended from the beginning' I was declined refund with standard 'no-refund sentences".
Today I look through the forum and found that another play has been refunded for much less evidence then I gave to CCP -here
I am not greevy about the 60m I lost. If I wouldnt get them back I dont care but it is about right and wrong. Many people told me blaa..ITS EVE..blabla..ITS A GAME.blabla...WHY TRUST OTHERS..blabla and then I see 'some' people get special attention like the one above. I am not here to whine that he got his cash back. In fact I am glad that he got it back, it seems CCP starts to do something about it, which is my point of writing this here. Should they not have it done fairly with others too?
EDIT: It seems relentlessly pays out -here
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.06.14 07:37:00 -
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I think the simple fact is CCP gave in to the whining of carebears and forum *****s who missplaced their trust and got burnt.
Complete ******* joke to be honest, None of them should have been reinbursed!
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.06.14 07:39:00 -
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Did you put your tin foil hat on too tight this morning?
The GM staff is completely unbiased. You weren't reimbursed because your case was different.
Shamis
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.06.14 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
The GM staff is completely unbiased.
Now that's just blatantly untrue. The GMs are only humans, and humans are fallible. I'm not saying they're intentionally doing anything, but it's only human nature for some things to influence our judgement. If we wanted 100% unbiased GMs we'd have to use machines.
So it's possible that mistakes can happen. They have in the past, and CCP has usually acknowledged the mistake and corrected it. That's one reason there's senior GM(s) and Kieron/Oveur.
Originally by: Panzer Goddess I podded wrangler, and all I got was this lousy forumban.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.06.14 08:01:00 -
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I'd suggest making a new petition for the GM:s to re-evaluate your situation and reconsider whether to refund you or not.
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Pesadel0
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Posted - 2006.06.14 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn I'd suggest making a new petition for the GM:s to re-evaluate your situation and reconsider whether to refund you or not.
Yup my feeling exacttly ,just petiton agian and say that you were scammed and you want your money back.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.06.14 08:20:00 -
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Concluding from this direction change that the GM's must be biased is nonsense guys. Take a break and get some sun for an hour and come back after.
However, the op of this thread would do well to repetition his past loss and apply for a refund. If it's refused, please ask for a senior gm to explain to you why it was refused, so you may then tell us in general what the hell they are up to now.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.06.14 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine Concluding from this direction change that the GM's must be biased is nonsense guys.
People draw conclusions from the facts that are known, and with the facts that are known in this case it does actually seem like the actions of the GM:s was affected by who was involved - even though the people involved themselves are probably not in any way associated with the GM:s making the decisions.
As with most others I don't know the full story though, so there is still a chance that I'm wrong.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.06.14 08:46:00 -
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Yes well, when I manage to kill someone that thought he had all avenues coveed and was sure to escape me he has no more informtaiton eithe and therefore must assume I exploited ?
That's exactly what I mean, don't draw very unlikely conclusions if your information is this limited. First do something about the information.
It's getting rather tiring to see gm/dev/whoever h4xsploit/favouritism/noobism cries by everyone and his mother on this forum. I'd assume most people have more sense then to actually believe that.
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2006.06.14 08:49:00 -
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Yes.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.06.14 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 14/06/2006 08:47:39 Yes well, when I manage to kill someone that thought he had all avenues covered and was sure to escape me, the victim as no more information either and therefore must assume I exploited ? Isn't that were logonsploit conlcusions coem from when noobs don't consider the ability of gangs to move two jumps in thirty seconds ?
That's exactly what I mean, don't draw very unlikely conclusions if your information is this limited. First do something about the information.
It's getting rather tiring to see gm/dev/whoever h4xsploit/favouritism/noobism cries by everyone and his mother on this forum. I'd assume most people have more sense then to actually believe that.
You're right.
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Logi3
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Posted - 2006.06.14 09:01:00 -
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Down with CCP and its biased views ;) -----------------------------------------------
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.06.14 09:05:00 -
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well as stated the whole thing with shares should be improved - as it stands the system is an underdeveloped aspect of eve (that said CCP have focused on combat related issues so far and it takes up a big chunk of development time - that said some non combat things need enhancments dont even get me started on corp tools
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.06.14 09:13:00 -
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There is already a topic on it here, please continue the discussion there.
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spiderbaby
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Posted - 2006.06.14 09:13:00 -
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Whether or not CCP have acted in a biased fashion here is irrelevant. What's important is that they are being SEEN to be biased here. They've handled this very poorly.
Where's the official explanation?
Where's the proof that this case was different from other scams?
Where's the reasoning behind some people getting treated differently from others?
Personally I think it's disgusting that when well-known people get scammed they get refunded but when unknowns get scammed they get the finger. But of course I don't have access to all the facts. So, CCP, give us the facts.
We need clear, unequivocal, specific, precise detailed explanations of exactly what scams will and won't get refunded. Not vague, open-to-interpretation mumblings that end up leaving people feeling like we have a 2-tier EVE where the devs friends and alts get looked after and everyone else gets shafted. Cos that's what it feels like right now.
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