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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
14274
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Posted - 2014.06.13 06:44:00 -
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Sigh.
This is what New Eden deserves for having banned the only legitimate ISK doubler. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
823
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Posted - 2014.06.13 06:51:00 -
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Dealth Striker wrote:Just wait for the next release. With moons in the system Jita is going to be one locked down system. The scammers vying for the system count with those looking to take or secure POS locations at the moons. Look for crashes and many complaints about not getting into to the system from traders, scammers, and POS defenders and attackers. It is going to awesome.
There are no mine-able belts or PI planets or POCOs permitted in the Jita system. Hence I would be surprised if they allow POS. Maybe they will. Have to wait and see I suppose. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
823
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Posted - 2014.06.13 06:54:00 -
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Miomeifeng Alduin wrote:Kijo Rikki wrote:It's not so bad. There's alot of nice people selling plex relatively cheap. I even seen one go for 400 million. Just make sure you have an extra plex in your hanger or the contract won't go through. I've never figured out why that is, exactly.... i'd actually count this more as a bug than a scam though: the contract will go through even if you dont have the plex in your hangar or anywhere (from what i heard anyway), so you pay the isk, get the plex, and immediately lose the plex again as you are supposed to pay a plex. The game just checks the isk payment, and then does the contract stuff in the wrong order or something like that :p
Yeah pretty sure the point in the "buy a PLEX and pay with ISK plus a PLEX back" scam is that you do not need one in inventory, the contract will give back the PLEX you just bought plus the ISK. |
D20 Cyberpunk
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.06.13 07:06:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Sigh.
This is what New Eden deserves for having banned the only legitimate ISK doubler.
Not banned. But band.
"plays wicked money-robbing riff"
P.S. Hello again, Mr funny posts. GÇ£EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by-áThousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.GÇ¥ William Gibson, if he would've played...
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Spectral Tiger
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.13 07:23:00 -
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I've just got up and this is the first thread I've read this morning. One of the more amusing ones too.
I can only assume the op is not being serious, because if the op was serious, well...
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Anomaly One
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
133
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Posted - 2014.06.13 07:27:00 -
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Soraya Nol wrote: sk doublers are basically the most ******** thing that CCP has aloud to happen to their game.
*allowed Psychotic Monk for CSM9 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 you want content in highsec? vote Monk |
Kijimea
Mulors
6
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Posted - 2014.06.13 07:31:00 -
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So many stupid comments. Eve intelligence test? Oh yeah. Back in my time when i started playing online games 98 with Ultima Online we played the game, that was fun. Now what is fun in having your alts stay in jita and talk **** in chat all day long? How can that be fun? Talking about intelligence, tons of scam copies its always the same - scammers are not even intelligent enough to have own ideas. I as a casual eve player through the past 3 years on and off didnt ever fall for such stupid scams and i seriously dont even understand how ppl can be so stupid to not even read contracts "you will pay, you will get" correctly. However, as a newbie before and a casual player now and someone who knows strong gaming communites from old times i find this jita chat or this scammer mentality absolutly stupid and in the end i laugh because somehow it makes me giggle that ppl can be satisfied and are happy with doing **** like that and reading their **** in forums, like they got a boner from that playstyle is hilarious. I give you a clap on your shoulder. This really makes me want to go to fanfest someday just to know how those ******** ppl look like in real life.
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Spectral Tiger
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.13 07:49:00 -
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Kijimea wrote:So many stupid comments. Eve intelligence test? Oh yeah. Back in my time when i started playing online games 98 with Ultima Online we played the game, that was fun. Now what is fun in having your alts stay in jita and talk **** in chat all day long? How can that be fun? Talking about intelligence, tons of scam copies its always the same - scammers are not even intelligent enough to have own ideas. I as a casual eve player through the past 3 years on and off didnt ever fall for such stupid scams and i seriously dont even understand how ppl can be so stupid to not even read contracts "you will pay, you will get" correctly. However, as a newbie before and a casual player now and someone who knows strong gaming communites from old times i find this jita chat or this scammer mentality absolutly stupid and in the end i laugh because somehow it makes me giggle that ppl can be satisfied and are happy with doing **** like that and reading their **** in forums, like they got a boner from that playstyle is hilarious. I give you a clap on your shoulder. This really makes me want to go to fanfest someday just to know how those ******** ppl look like in real life.
They are most likely alts which means they're not just sat in JIta and other hubs and doing nothing else.
Isk is important after all, you can fund your gaming with it via PLEX. Because it's important in this game you will get people trying to make it anyway they can.
Why would anyone think someone would double their isk. Out of the goodness of their hearts?
Scams are easy to avoid. One reason people fall for contract scams is because they think they're getting a good deal so rush the deal because they're worried if they don't someone else will get their first. People are their own worst enemies sometimes.
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Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.06.13 07:51:00 -
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What I hate more than the isk doubler spam, is the "i want isk" website spammers. Seeing as you can make a website link look like an item or contract, it really sucks knowing that any link I click could wind up making someone money, just by simply clicking on it. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3566
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Posted - 2014.06.13 07:57:00 -
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Kijimea wrote:So many stupid comments. Eve intelligence test? Oh yeah. Back in my time when i started playing online games 98 with Ultima Online we played the game, that was fun. Now what is fun in having your alts stay in jita and talk **** in chat all day long? How can that be fun? Talking about intelligence, tons of scam copies its always the same - scammers are not even intelligent enough to have own ideas. I as a casual eve player through the past 3 years on and off didnt ever fall for such stupid scams and i seriously dont even understand how ppl can be so stupid to not even read contracts "you will pay, you will get" correctly. However, as a newbie before and a casual player now and someone who knows strong gaming communites from old times i find this jita chat or this scammer mentality absolutly stupid and in the end i laugh because somehow it makes me giggle that ppl can be satisfied and are happy with doing **** like that and reading their **** in forums, like they got a boner from that playstyle is hilarious. I give you a clap on your shoulder. What business of yours is it how other people enjoy their games? I don't enjoy playing Call of Duty, but I don't run around going "OMG COD PLAYERS YOU ARE SO LAEM!!!!!". If people want to sit around scamming all day, they can do. If stupid people fall for it, that's their problem.
Kijimea wrote:This really makes me want to go to fanfest someday just to know how those ******** ppl look like in real life. I would image these people look considerably less ******** than you do. I mean lets face it, they can actually form readable paragraphs of text.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
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DrSmegma
Smegma United
268
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:00:00 -
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Right-click > block..
Do this about 5 times and you got your silence. It takes less effort than posting this thread. Space lonely? www.multicamchat.com |
Minty Aroma
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
40
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:23:00 -
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I'm fully against this too - not because of what it is but because it does not tie in at all with the whole core point of EVE: more risk = more isk. These pilots just stay docked up bot spamming a macro and make iskies from the chumps who fall from it. At no point on that character do they undock so you can't blap them, and unlike market trading, they won't loose out on isk if they make a poor decision when the market fluctuates. I'd like to see this practice banned so they will have to take riskier approaches to make isk which may create pvp situations.
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Adunh Slavy
1495
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:23:00 -
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Soraya Nol wrote:an ultra capitalistic no-rules playground.
There are rules, the rules of capitalisim are (and reality for that matter): you don't get something for nothing.
A rule those who dislike capitalisim promise they can break, yet never deliver.
Want some health care, a pension, low interest rate loan? Just make sure to vote for your favororite freebie promising politician, they'll double your happiness, guaranteed. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Li Quiao
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:35:00 -
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Dealth Striker wrote:Just wait for the next release. With moons in the system Jita is going to be one locked down system. The scammers vying for the system count with those looking to take or secure POS locations at the moons. Look for crashes and many complaints about not getting into to the system from traders, scammers, and POS defenders and attackers. It is going to awesome.
Somebody can't read dev blogs. POSes will continue to be banned in Jita even after Crius. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3793
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Posted - 2014.06.13 10:03:00 -
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DrSmegma wrote:Right-click > block.. Do this about 5 times and you got your silence. It takes less effort than posting this thread. This. I can even read Jita local. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22479
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Posted - 2014.06.13 10:14:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:DrSmegma wrote:Right-click > block.. Do this about 5 times and you got your silence. It takes less effort than posting this thread. This. I can even read Jita local. Those. Also, don't most ISK doublers make use of ambiguous and confusing language and/or tricksy maths to make their ISK rather than anything that has to do with the UI? It sounds a lot like the OP has ISK doublers and station-trade/contract scammers confused.
In fact, since it requires so little in terms of in-game mechanics and relies entirely on the mark's inattentiveness, I'd venture to guess that everyone would be doing it if they could. It's probably just a matter of eco-system (with a bit of help from inertia) that keeps some scammers attached to the more cumbersome trade-based scams. After all, if everyone spams about their ISK doubling, the chances of someone picking yours over someone else's drastically drops, compared to if the scammers diversify and go after different people using different means. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
DrSmegma
Smegma United
270
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Posted - 2014.06.13 10:42:00 -
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Minty Aroma wrote:I'm fully against this too - not because of what it is but because it does not tie in at all with the whole core point of EVE: more risk = more isk. These pilots just stay docked up bot spamming a macro and make iskies from the chumps who fall from it. At no point on that character do they undock so you can't blap them, and unlike market trading, they won't loose out on isk if they make a poor decision when the market fluctuates. I'd like to see this practice banned so they will have to take riskier approaches to make isk which may create pvp situations.
...I wish I could down-thumb you. Nobody cares what your "core point of EVE" is and your comparison between traders and spammers is bad because you obviously don't have a clue about trading. There's not necessarily a risk in it at all. What are you, a mission runner?
ISK doublers have a purpose - they take the money from rich PLEX buyers who'd otherwise annoy everyone with their faction-fitted golems. At least this way, they quit after their first day in Jita. Space lonely? www.multicamchat.com |
Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
488
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Posted - 2014.06.13 10:48:00 -
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I think scamming plays a part in Eve. It's a huge deal and enhances the gameplay and risk factors.. However i will say this: All forms of trade (legitimate or otherwise) should be banned from all Local chat channels. Trade chat channels, Contracts and the Market are self contained units... local is entirely lost in 'trade hubs' because of insane levels of spam.
It encourages Bot'ing and RMT.
This would be a definite QOL change for veterans and newbies alike. |
DrSmegma
Smegma United
270
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Posted - 2014.06.13 10:51:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:I think scamming plays a part in Eve. It's a huge deal and enhances the gameplay and risk factors.. However i will say this: All forms of trade (legitimate or otherwise) should be banned from all Local chat channels. Trade chat channels, Contracts and the Market are self contained units... local is entirely lost in 'trade hubs' because of insane levels of spam.
It encourages Bot'ing and RMT.
This would be a definite QOL change for veterans and newbies alike.
We should also ban mining from local. It encourages botting and genocide in Africa. Space lonely? www.multicamchat.com |
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
481
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:08:00 -
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Yes. This thread is happening.
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Op. Right click the morons in local and block them. Takes only a couple minutes to work thru all the current ones, and local will come to a standstill. At that point you will see other folks (that already blocked the spammers) having convos.
. They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the primitive side, the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake. |
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
560
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:09:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:All forms of trade (legitimate or otherwise) should be banned from [...] Local chat channels [...] in 'trade hubs' Wow, that really makes sense.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1596
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:13:00 -
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Belt Scout wrote:Op. Right click the morons in local and block them. Takes only a couple minutes to work thru all the current ones, and local will come to a standstill. At that point you will see other folks (that already blocked the spammers) having convos. I used to block the piranhas in Jita Local but I've found that leaving them unblocked is an interesting speed reading exercise. Eventually your brain just adapts and skips over the bots and doublers. .. when everything else is gone .. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1922
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:17:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Belt Scout wrote:Op. Right click the morons in local and block them. Takes only a couple minutes to work thru all the current ones, and local will come to a standstill. At that point you will see other folks (that already blocked the spammers) having convos. I used to block the piranhas in Jita Local but I've found that leaving them unblocked is an interesting speed reading exercise. Eventually your brain just adapts and skips over the bots and doublers. my corpies and i like to play "spot the legitimate trade" whenever we're in jita, its fun. "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
Unsuccessful At Everything |
Dave Stark
6324
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:18:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Belt Scout wrote:Op. Right click the morons in local and block them. Takes only a couple minutes to work thru all the current ones, and local will come to a standstill. At that point you will see other folks (that already blocked the spammers) having convos. I used to block the piranhas in Jita Local but I've found that leaving them unblocked is an interesting speed reading exercise. Eventually your brain just adapts and skips over the bots and doublers. my corpies and i like to play "spot the legitimate trade" whenever we're in jita, its fun. i play a similar game in some certain areas of the city, but it's usually not trades i'm spotting. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
561
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:20:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Belt Scout wrote:Op. Right click the morons in local and block them. Takes only a couple minutes to work thru all the current ones, and local will come to a standstill. At that point you will see other folks (that already blocked the spammers) having convos. I used to block the piranhas in Jita Local but I've found that leaving them unblocked is an interesting speed reading exercise. Eventually your brain just adapts and skips over the bots and doublers. my corpies and i like to play "spot the legitimate trade" whenever we're in jita, its fun. i play a similar game in some certain areas of the city, but it's usually not trades i'm spotting. Alas, those areas are full of nasty surprises indeed - unless you enjoy being surprised, that is.
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Dave Stark
6324
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:24:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Sibyyl wrote:Belt Scout wrote:Op. Right click the morons in local and block them. Takes only a couple minutes to work thru all the current ones, and local will come to a standstill. At that point you will see other folks (that already blocked the spammers) having convos. I used to block the piranhas in Jita Local but I've found that leaving them unblocked is an interesting speed reading exercise. Eventually your brain just adapts and skips over the bots and doublers. my corpies and i like to play "spot the legitimate trade" whenever we're in jita, its fun. i play a similar game in some certain areas of the city, but it's usually not trades i'm spotting. Alas, those areas are full of nasty surprises indeed - unless you enjoy being surprised, that is. well, we certainly don't stop the car. it's like a safari. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2252
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:26:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Belt Scout wrote:Op. Right click the morons in local and block them. Takes only a couple minutes to work thru all the current ones, and local will come to a standstill. At that point you will see other folks (that already blocked the spammers) having convos. I used to block the piranhas in Jita Local but I've found that leaving them unblocked is an interesting speed reading exercise. Eventually your brain just adapts and skips over the bots and doublers. That's bad for the brain and drops the awareness level.
At first the brain tries to keep up. Then the brain starts to block tmi from your awareness, as you say correctly, but that's bad. The brain reduces your awareness level, because removing parts of the observed information needs processing power.
It's not possible to ignore things. Ignoring is an active process and in this case the brain does not ignore, it tries to reduce the unnecessary amount of data at a cost that makes it not worth trybserving it in the first place.
In the end is what you are doing not only reducing your awareness, but also creating stress, reduces concentration, increases automatic responses and behaviour and causes tunnel vision.
You may not even be aware of it until you start looking for it.
I warned you. *shrugs* The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
- Cowards deserve punishment -
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
428
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:28:00 -
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Clenz wrote:I always thought greed with a side of stupidity is what made people fall for obvious scams. Thanks to the OP, i know now it is because of the '****** ui.'
Thanks for the enlightenment!
Honestly, just close local while you are in the trade hubs and you will never see 99% of the most obvious scams that people atempt to run. You could also avoid the major marekt hubs all together.
Hang on, you don't close local in ALL systems? Why would you do that to yourself? Nothing ever written in local chat in any system has been worth reading.
Personally, I wish there was a way to turn off the chat window, leaving just the member list (since you can do it the other way around). Until that day, I make do with reducing it to the bare minimum width, and occasionally wondering what that ascii image that I just crushed into meaningless was supposed to be. |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
599
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:29:00 -
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You won't stop the scamming - Being a backhanded jerk is a choice you're allowed to make in EVE.
I would like to see CCP being a bit more proactive about warning people that this is actually allowed and going on before they start playing. New players will always come into contact with the game before they find the community, so a community solution isn't really effective.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all... |
Mithandra
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
22
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Posted - 2014.06.13 11:32:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Nobody is making you give them the isk. They do it to see posts like these not to mention make a spaceshitload of isk. It's one of Eve's easiest intelligence tests. Guess what, you failed. I hate them simply because they **** up local when it could be an otherwise fun thing to use if your bored while going through the market.
right click and block. the Turing Test of Eve Intelligence
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