Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
182
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 15:56:00 -
[1] - Quote
TL;DR : This is a post with more than 40 words. If its too much, go check another thread. Or practice your brain more. Whatever.
I want to make short request to all forum participants:
My request is: Stay on topic.
I've noticed a large number of topics being locked down due to topic-derailment. Every now and then a thread gets cleaned up, but most just vanish due to a lock. I cannot ask moderators to clean threads up instead of locking them. Doing that will result in... exactly.
In real life you can rid yourself of people going off-topic in a discussion by simply asking them to get back on topic, telling them to STFU or even remove them from the room. As on these forums a little sidestep wont end the world, but truly ending a discussion by simply talking about something else cant be solved as easy on a forum as it can be in real life.
My request is: Stay on topic.
Moderators will lock it down if you don't. There can be a 100 useful replies in a thread and a great discussion, but if the last 10 posts are off-topic; the thread will die. I've seen plenty of cool discussions just ending due to a lock. Caused by off-topic nonsense. I'm not referring to lazy people who make posts without searching or just plainly post useless crap. Burn em I'd say. I'm referring to topics that make sense if viewed from the OP's perspective.
This is not a request to stop trolling. Trolling is not the same as blapping about something else entirely. A proper troll is in fact on-topic and most have a point in there somewhere. Ill admit that this is a personal view not shared by CCP as stated in their forumrules. But trolling has always been about getting away with it as much as anything else. If a thread gets locked due to trolling; its a failed troll. You messed up.
So if you really don't want to share a view; slam a creative troll in there or just read another topic and let others try.
Now if you want to share your view or tell me what you think about my request to you; feel free. This is a discussion forum, so go for it. Keep in mind that discussing moderation itself is against the forumrules. Like you, I have a strong opinion of it, but kept it out of this post. I'm asking you to do the same. Also make sure you understand that discussing whether or not trolling is allowed will create doubleposts. The originals of which are mostly locked. To help you out: "how do you feel about people destroying topics instead of contributing". Or "does it make sense that Yarda asks me to moderate myself?" (just remember to keep away from official moderation by CCP).
Lets see what you got ladies and gents! |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1606
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 15:59:00 -
[2] - Quote
This thread is now about baby sloths \o/ .. when everything else is gone .. |
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
182
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 15:59:00 -
[3] - Quote
Lol
You're terrible.... |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6473
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:02:00 -
[4] - Quote
Raspberry noms. |
Lothros Andastar
The Minutemen The Bastion
96
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:02:00 -
[5] - Quote
It needs something, a little more... phsssssssssssssssssssssssssh |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1115
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:03:00 -
[6] - Quote
Your OP was basicly light moderation discussion and lack of content and you expect to stay "on topic"? |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6473
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:04:00 -
[7] - Quote
I never got why people like sloths. They're sort of cute, but not really and they do nothing. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7028
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:06:00 -
[8] - Quote
Do not derail. Derail is fail.
It makes the mods gnash their teeth and wail.
Don't do it at first, nor at the tail.
In fact, don't do it on any scale.
You might get a forum temp ban mail.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
568
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:06:00 -
[9] - Quote
A perfect example of an OT post being much more interesting than the OP.
Though this time, it was easy.
TL;DR boring topics deserve to and will be derailed. The forums are a sandbox, too! |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
568
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:13:00 -
[10] - Quote
Destination SkillQueue wrote:I never got why people like sloths. They're sort of cute, but not really and they do nothing. Like most of us spending time on EVE-O. |
|
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18741
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:13:00 -
[11] - Quote
Some threads are so bad that they deserve to be derailed Eve is an introduction to teamwork, paranoia, dealing with consequences, coping with loss, economics, long term planning, bartering, astronomy, and the theory of space submarine travel.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
312
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:14:00 -
[12] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Do not derail. Derail is fail.
It makes the mods gnash their teeth and wail.
Don't do it at first, nor at the tail.
In fact, don't do it on any scale.
You might get a forum temp ban mail.
This needs to be a standard ISD lock message.
Or even better: thread lock haiku. "EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1608
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:15:00 -
[13] - Quote
Destination SkillQueue wrote:I never got why people like sloths. They're sort of cute, but not really and they do nothing. Sort of???
They just so wonderfully ooky.
Yarda Black wrote:I've noticed a large number of topics being locked down due to topic-derailment. Every now and then a thread gets cleaned up, but most just vanish due to a lock. On a more serious note.. the one thing I have seen work is if the thread originator continues to participate in and call out replies. If you address the off-topic posts right when they occur, then you have a way of steering the discussion a bit better. Unfortunately this forum moves pretty quickly, so you'd have to dedicate some quality time to doing this.. which may not be possible for everyone. .. when everything else is gone .. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7029
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:17:00 -
[14] - Quote
Galen Darksmith wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Do not derail. Derail is fail.
It makes the mods gnash their teeth and wail.
Don't do it at first, nor at the tail.
In fact, don't do it on any scale.
You might get a forum temp ban mail.
This needs to be a standard ISD lock message. Or even better: thread lock haiku.
I thought about haiku, but I figured that Dr. Seuss would be more appropriate for EVE-O. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1914
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:18:00 -
[15] - Quote
All aboard! Hahaha
Crazy, but that's how it goes Millions of people living as foes Maybe. it's not too late To learn how to love, and forget how to hate
Mental wounds not healing Life's a bitter shame I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train
I've listened to preachers, I've listened to fools I've watched all the dropouts Who make their own rules One person conditioned to rule and control The media sells it and you live the role
Mental wounds still screaming Driving me insane I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train
I know that things are going wrong for me You gotta listen to my words, yeah, yeah
Heirs of a cold war, that's what we've become Inheriting troubles, I'm mentally numb Crazy, I just cannot bear I'm living with something that just isn't fair
Mental wounds not healing Who and what's to blame I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train
EVE needs more Pssshhhh |
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
183
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:18:00 -
[16] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Yarda Black wrote:I've noticed a large number of topics being locked down due to topic-derailment. Every now and then a thread gets cleaned up, but most just vanish due to a lock. On a more serious note.. the one thing I have seen work is if the thread originator continues to participate in and call out replies. If you address the off-topic posts right when they occur, then you have a way of steering the discussion a bit better. Unfortunately this forum moves pretty quickly, so you'd have to dedicate some quality time to doing this.. which may not be possible for everyone.
Yeah, I've seen some brave attempts to do that as well. But like you said, its pretty hard to do that. This thread managed to grab 9 replies in 2 minutes. All ofcourse ontopic and very serious :)
|
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3799
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:19:00 -
[17] - Quote
This thread has no rails. Work safety board notified. Expect a fine. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
313
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:20:00 -
[18] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Galen Darksmith wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Do not derail. Derail is fail.
It makes the mods gnash their teeth and wail.
Don't do it at first, nor at the tail.
In fact, don't do it on any scale.
You might get a forum temp ban mail.
This needs to be a standard ISD lock message. Or even better: thread lock haiku. I thought about haiku, but I figured that Dr. Seuss would be more appropriate for EVE-O.
I don't know....
"First post is pretty bad, Rest of the thread is much worse. Thread locked, screw your content."
"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler |
Karen Avioras
Unsung Heroes Spaceship Samurai
860
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:24:00 -
[19] - Quote
I second this. http://www.maniacworld.com/baby-sloth-with-a-big-yawn.jpg |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
603
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:25:00 -
[20] - Quote
Mod more?
CCP .. always first with the wrong stuff
|
|
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6474
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:25:00 -
[21] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:I never got why people like sloths. They're sort of cute, but not really and they do nothing. Sort of???
My reaction to that wasn't "Awww!" it was "Needs more fire and lots of it."
Sibyyl wrote:They're just so wonderfully ooky. They're not the worst things ever, but they're no where near the top on the cute-o meter. Passable at times, but not really competitive compared to most furry animals.
|
Marsha Mallow
1057
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:29:00 -
[22] - Quote
Yarda Black wrote:Yeah, I've seen some brave attempts to do that as well. But like you said, its pretty hard to do that. This thread managed to grab 9 replies in 2 minutes. All ofcourse ontopic and very serious :) It's your topic, but you could just cave in and rename it to a sloth thread, then report anyone for not talking about sloths. Allowing topics to take their own meandering course of doom. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
183
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:29:00 -
[23] - Quote
KIller Wabbit wrote:Mod more?
I'd rather we did that ourselves. If you look at this thread, I'm pretty sure its a "INBLock" by now. Which was to be expected with this one and I enjoyed reading the responses. But in general... I'd really rather see less locks. By doing moderation of our own, the official moderators can spend more time cleaning threads instead of being forced to simply lock it down.
|
|
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1554
|
Posted - 2014.06.13 16:40:00 -
[24] - Quote
Yarda Black wrote:Moderators will lock it down if you don't. There can be a 100 useful replies in a thread and a great discussion, but if the last 10 posts are off-topic; the thread will die. I've seen plenty of cool discussions just ending due to a lock. This is not only discussing moderation, it's also a bit insulting to CCL to claim that threads get locked most of the time when the goodposts outnumber the badposts 10 to 1.
Thread locked.
The Rules: 5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
11. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a petition under the Community & Forums Category. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |